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1635: The Tangled Web (The Ring of Fire) Mass Market Paperback – June 28, 2011

2.5 out of 5 stars 57 customer reviews
Book 11 of 19 in the Ring of Fire Series

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About the Author

Virginia DeMarce received her Ph.D. in early modern European history from Stanford University. She has published a book on German military settlers in Canada after the American Revolution and has served as president of the National Genealogical Society. She’s taught at Northwest Missouri State University and at George Mason University, DeMarce is the co-author with Eric Flint of the New York Times best seller, 1635: The Bavarian Crisis.
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Product Details

  • Series: The Ring of Fire (Book 8)
  • Mass Market Paperback: 528 pages
  • Publisher: Baen; Reprint edition (June 28, 2011)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1439134545
  • ISBN-13: 978-1439134542
  • Product Dimensions: 4.2 x 1.1 x 6.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 10.4 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 2.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (57 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,079,627 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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I read a lot, and I read fast. This book took me nearly a week, because I either put it down to do something else, or I fell asleep.
As I normally gulp down the Ring of Fire books in one night or 2, with as few interruptions as I can manage, let me say that I was VERY disappointed with his book.
The characters and the plot are just not interesting - with the exception of one much-married beguiling rogue, I just don't like this book. At one point I realized I was drowning in an endless series of names of characters and families, and the explanations of them. It just seemed like it went on and on. If I see this writers name on a book, I just won't buy it unless I can pick up a real used bargain.
And that is the ONLY way I would advise anyone else to buy this - it is a waste of money.
Which is a shame, compared to Eric Flint's excellent, interesting, and thought-provoking writing for this series.
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I just finished this and have to agree that its boring, uninteresting, and almost unreadable.

The author seems to have a propensity for going down long blind, and VERY boring alleys of convoluted and confusing family relationships, and in this case a disjointed story that makes little sense.

There's a LOT of talk, not very interesting, and no real action to break up the boredom.
The 1632 story is interesting, and possibly the best time travel tale ever written, certainly the biggest and most wide spread.
However, Flint needs to realize that not everyone can write good material in the 1632 universe.
This one wanders off into a singularly uninteresting maze and never returns.

My biggest indictment: When I'm reading a book that looses my interest, I tend to start skipping sentences or even entire paragraphs.
With this one I started skipping entire pages, and then multiple pages.

I'll continue to read Flint and the anthologies in the 1632 universe, but no more of this author.
Flint needs to realize that some things just don't work out, and Professional writers tend to be impressed with the skills of other authors, but may not see that they just don't impress the readers for who its all about.
These books aren't written to impress other writers, they're written to sell books to people who want to read the story.
When the story causes a buyer/reader to not want to read or buy anymore, its time to step back and reevaluate whether to continue.

In this case....Not.
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Yet again another book in this series is a failure to be even remotely enjoyable. In fact, boring and inane are the words that come to mind. I think the majority of readers just aren't interested in hordes of minor characters and their boring doings and how they are related to each other. In fact, this book seems more a collection of weakly related short stories than a real integrated story. The main characters that most readers are interested in hardly get to make an apperance.

It's not Eric Flint's writing that's the problem. None of the books done solely by him or in collaboration with other authors has been anything other than stellar. I really hate to point fingers, but it's time someone at Baen wakes up to the fact that Virgina DeMarce might be a crackerjack researcher, but she hasn't got the touch to write entertaining long fiction. It's time for the publisher to step in and save this series.

I won't be buying any more books with her listed as an author, either prime or secondary, and I recommend others do the same if they dislike the trend that is showing in this series. If Baen wants anyone to be loyal to this series, Virgina DeMarce needs to be shown the door as an author and fast. She's already done enough damage. Stop her before she ruins even one more book.
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While this book, and the prior one by Virginia DeMarce, are so boring that I was unwilling to invest the time to read them to their conclusions, I am thankful for all the good work she has done for the 1632 series. One of the features I so enjoy with the Eric-written stories is that they tend to be internally consistent and have rasonably good historic accuracy. Eric may have done much of that on his own, but I attribute much of it to Virginia. I have also assumed that Eric has restricted her in terms of writing about the main story and the central actors -- he has reserved that for himself. So her hands are tied, and we end up frustrated with the insignificant plot line, but also because her writing style is not as engaging. So, thank you Virginia for what you do contribute, but I too am not a fan of your writing.

I also think that it is very unfair of Eric to promote Virginia's works as moving the story line forward, when in fact that is often not the case, and he should know that her writing skills are not up to par. I have assumed that he is more interested in other series, and will milk the 1632 series for all its worth by writing a "real" story every few years, and hope that her stories keep the series alive. Maybe that is a good business model, but it does leave many readers not too happy.

So, as much as I like the 1632 series and main characters, I would not recommend purchasing this book nor any other from this author.
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