A defense of a whitewash?


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Initial post: Aug 22, 2006 7:18:41 AM PDT
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Lucius says:
What I have read of this illustrated edition of the "official" version of the events of 9/11 is what is currently available at Slate.com which plans to provide the entire text online. If it is, as advertized, an illustrated version of the government's 9/11 Commission Report, then given its comic book format, there are obvious liberties taken in its depiction of events, and, more importantly, it must reiterate all the failings of the original.

Having read Prof. David Ray Griffin's masterly analysis, "The 9/11 Commission Report: Ommissions and Distortions", I can only surmise that this graphic version does not replicate the political bias, deceptions, massive incompetence and sheer lack of accountability of the FAA and the military, missing testimony, and sheer implausability of the original account. Since the official 9/11 Commission Report has been likened to the Warren Commission Report in that its conclusions were known from the onset, why these authors would foist such a patently duplicitous document upon the American public is a question only they can answer.

Rather than the recapitulation of a seriously flawed document, it would have been much more instructive had the authors done some independent investigating and come up with a more felicitous version of the events of 9/11. There certainly is no dearth of information that contradicts the findings of the 9/11 Commission. Scholars for 9/11Truth, for example, is comprised of hundreds of academics who have raised legitimate questions about the official version. If the truth is, indeed, "out there" then providing an easy to read popular version of the indefensible serves neither the truth nor the public.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2006 10:15:32 AM PDT
Anonymous says:
You should suggest to the authors that they do a second book in which they present the views of Prof. Griffin, the Scholars for 9/11 Truth and independant investigation. I believe that the authors are based in Los Angeles.

As for the "massive incompetence" and "sheer lack of accountability of the FAA and the military" I think both the original and graphic version show this (the report card gives several "D"s and "F"s) and as for the "political bias, deceptions, missing testimony, and sheer implausability" this would be accomplished in a second book.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2006 3:08:50 PM PDT
Anonymous says:
You make a good point but this book is a true Graphic Adaptation of the original 9/11 Commission Report. Adding any other information would make it a different book. The authors did not want that and that is why this book is the only book to have been endorsed by the 9/11 Commission.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 27, 2006 5:13:45 AM PDT
HS says:
It is interesting though, as this book is supposed to bring the 9/11 Commission report to the people who did not read the original report (perhaps the people to whom it was inaccessible). For the most part, the original report is seen as the "Truth" among these people anyway. Any "official" document will start to replace what really happened with the agreed upon History. So it seems likely that this book will only further enforce the findings of the original Commission Report in a public that is not really informed as it is.

Furthermore, it will be interesting to see how some things are handled graphically. I know that the original report did admit that certain branches could have done a better job, but they never used words like "massive incompetence" and though it shined through, most of what they did was circular talk. "If the Presidents knew, then they were to blame, but although they were informed, we don't think they knew..." (that is of course not word for word:). More than not blaming (something they said from the start they would not do) they seemed to defend the actions of several.

It seems to me that this is just an attempt to bring the same version of events to a younger or less informed audience thereby strengthening this united ideology that the Commission asks us to adopt.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 28, 2006 8:39:11 AM PDT
A. Cohen says:
I can't believe how many seemingly rational people are willing to put aside rational thought and get sucked into all of these conspiracy theories. Not only would the entire government have to be involved (without anyone telling) for these theories to be possible, but how about the thousands of witnesses, scientists, journalists, etc. Everyon is "in on it"?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 3, 2006 3:42:23 PM PDT
W.T. says:
Indeed, when someone pushes a conspiracy theory involving the government, it's generally safe to discount it, just because anytime more than a handful of people "know" something in Washington, it's going to soon be on the front page of some newspaper (as has been proven repeatedly in every recent administration).

With 9/11 particularly, a driving force behind the conspiracy theories seems to be political, which is in itself sickening because there is no valid domestic political component to 9/11 (no matter what EITHER political wing claims). That should be out-of-bounds in the minds of any decent American.

Another source is junk science specialists, particularly concerning how the buildings fell, allegations of missiles, "faking 9/11" etc. All these loopy ideas have been discredited over and over, but the advocates of such theories continue to have more believers than they have scientific knowledge, apparently. For the believers, the "cult of personality" surround the author of the theory is enough to make it true, sadly.

There are even those who claim the "whole thing" was a fraud. Somehow, they manage to overlook that fact that 3,000 people are indeed gone. That's probably the most extreme example, but it illustrates the point that we need calmer heads and rational analysis when looking at 9/11, otherwise we open ourselves up to all kinds of wild speculation. That's why for all it's admitted faults, the 9/11 Commission Report was a pretty good, and very useful, effort.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 8, 2006 2:46:36 AM PDT
I certainly understand that a there are many people who take issue with the report (and some of whom are undoubtedly very well read on the subject), I simply want to point out that portraying the report in this format is not some clever trick to prey on the young or illiterate, but is simply continuing the attempt to convey the report as clearly as possible.

The purpose of this book is most definitely to "bring the same version of events" as the 9/11 Comission Report to a wider audience. That is not its hidden purpose, it is its stated purpose. It is the same report adapted into a different medium, after all.

While I do not believe that the conversation on an important subject should necessarily be concluded simply because a government commission is able to articulate itself, I would hope that others who feel they have something of worth to add would make an effort to communicate it as effectively so the conversation can continue.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 25, 2006 8:03:34 PM PDT
There's even a Republican congressman that believes the truth about 9/11.

Curt Weldon, Vice Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, has publicly praised a 9/11 truth video. And not just any 9/11 truth video, but the one by BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones which accuses the Bush administration of deliberately allowing 9/11 to happen and placing explosives in the three tallest World Trade Center buildings to make sure that they would be totally destroyed on 9/11. Unbelievable? Just have a look here:

http://republican.meetup.com/92/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1870074

The 9/11 truth video that opened Rep. Weldon's eyes can be seen here:

http://www.911blogger.com/2006/02/dr-steven-jones-utah-seminar-video.html

A bombshell from the FBI: The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden's Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11." For details, see http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

Even the Presbyterian Church is waking up to the truth about 9/11:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/131/12.0.html

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2006 11:39:46 AM PDT
D. Woods says:
I am stunned at the Americans who have bought into all of these looney conspiracy theories. Not only is it embarrassing, it is an eye-opener of how easily people...even intelligent people...can fall for such BS and have little to no common sense. I honestly thought Americans were smarter and such crazy conspiracy theories were for just a few in the free world where the media is free and would be the first to bring us stories such as these conspiracy theories if there were any truth whatsoever to them, as has been proven time and time again throughout the history of the free world. I thought these conspiracy theories were, mainly, left for the third world and dictator-ran countries to fall for because they have no life and no freedom of press.

As some have said, conspiracy theories are almost always wrong, especially in an incident such as 9/11/01, because anytime there are more than a handful of people involved, many are going to talk. Do you people not even think of the many people who would have to be involved in something this crazy? Do you honestly think the government would have let all of those volunteers clean up and look for evidence at the towers if they had put explosions in the basement?

Yes, there have been a few people we would think had some creditability come out and say they believe some of these crazy conspiracy theories, such as the nutty professors; however, think of the tens of thousands of professors/scholars/ experts who are not coming out and backing them, for goodness sakes! And if you will look at the other crazy things most of these nuts believe in, you would see them for what they really are -crackpots believing in such things as we had Japan attack Pearl Harbor, we have never really gone to the moon, etc. A murderer or a thieve cannot get by with a crime when leaving so much evidence behind in this day and time. Many times, they even catch murderers/thieves with very little evidence left behind. Do you people honestly think the government could actually get away with putting explosions in the basement of the towers or whatever other crazy conspiracy such as this you may believe with all of the evidence that would have to be left behind? And another thing, why in the world would they even put explosions in the basement in the first place? What could have possibly been their motive? To almost bring our economy to its knees? Yeah, right, what president wouldn't want that to happen during his term in office? There is no sensible reason if the airplanes hit the towers. Why would all of the countries be with us going into Afghanistan and be with us in the War on Terror if they were not 100% sure bin Laden & company was behind 9/11/01; otherwise, they would have never been with us. Many other countries had intelligence on 9/11/01, too. We have never once heard a sensible leader from another country ever accuse our government of being behind 9/11/01; though there are many who would love to, that's for sure. And why would our government do it? The only conspiracy I have heard behind this was because they wanted an excuse to go into Iraq. Well, if this were the case, why didn't they just blame this on Saddam? Why didn't our government blame the anthrax attacks soon after 9/11/01 in the US on Saddam if this were the case? He definitely would have been the perfect one to put the blame on, but they did not blame Saddam, now, did they? As far as the FBI not having the evidence that bin Laden was the master mind behind 9/11/01, the very same thing can be said about almost all tyrants throughout the history of the world who put people up to doing horrible things such as 9/11/01. I suppose the videos/tapes, with other countries examining them to see if they are fake or have been fooled with, of bin Laden admitting to this crime isn't enough for some of you.

One thing is for sure, many people have made a fortune off of you conspiracy theorists. It has been hilarious for me to sit here since 9/11/01, watching one crackpot after another come up with one insane conspiracy theory after another, and watching tens of thousands of nuts in this world believe every word written on a website...which a 14 year old could be behind...or in a book, then someone with sense comes right behind these insane conspiracy theorists and debunk them one after another. As soon as one is debunked...most of which make the writer of it look like a pure idiot...then some other nut will figure out another conspiracy theory to write about it; then that one is debunked and another one will come up with something else...and it has gone on and on like this since 9/11/01. Unfortunately, the conspiracy theories are so ridiculous, there aren't many in the world that will even bother to acknowledge them, let alone waste their time to debunk them. It's like lowering themselves to the lowest of lows.

It is people like this, the far left extremists, mainly, who are totally ruining this country. They are this country's very worst enemies, in my opinion, and we should gather all of them up and send them to the Arab Muslim world where they can live on conspiracy theories such as these. I cannot tell you how many Muslim extremists have pointed me to websites with this BS on them. The Muslim extremists really get excited when an American is the author of one of these pathetic websites/books. And this is exactly why you people are America's worst enemies and it is you who will cause us to be attacked again for several reasons. But one is because it is people like you who are dividing Americans. The only time I have ever seen the Muslim extremists scared is right after 9/11/01 when almost all Americans were united. Not only were they scared, they were green with envy. All you heard from them was "divide and conquer, divide and conquer." Who would have ever thought some idiots would divide us as they have?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2006 1:00:25 PM PDT
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J. Leonard says:
Right on to the comment above that the authors should do an illustrated 9/11 truth book now.

Joe Goebbels would be green with envy. He had the Lie, and The Big Lie. The neocons have the Technicolor Big Lie to poison the minds of the youth.

But maybe the comic book format is all that fits the government's sheer fabric of lies and fictions.

If you want to read a real book (with true pictures, photographs, not cartoons) check out Painful Questions or 9/11 Synthetic Terror.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2007 8:59:25 PM PDT
Bombshell? The FBI (on the same website Zaznaykin links to) clearly state that they believe Bin Laden is responsible for 911:

http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress02/watson020602.htm

Money quote: "The evidence linking Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden to the attacks of September 11 is clear and irrefutable." As for why that particular FBI web page has not been updated, I have no idea - maybe they don't make changes to those pages once posted? Does it matter that one FBI page doesn't mention 911? I bet plenty of others do.

Besides, Bin Laden, after initially denying involvement, then admitted it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

Scroll down that link for links and quotes.

It staggers my imagination that there are functioning adults capable of using the internet and carrying on a conversation yet who also think the US Government had an active part in the planning of the events of 911, or that fixed explosives were used to bring down the Trade Towers. Then again, I'm also staggered that sane people join cults - perhaps I'm easily staggered... :-)

Skev

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2007 8:20:04 AM PDT
B. Evans says:
I really, honestly think all of you conspiracy theorists out there give the US Government's organizational and logistical capabilities way too much credit. I also think that you give the loyalty of the men and women who you are indirectly accusing of doing the real work in this "conspiracy," Federal employees, agents, and US Servicemembers, far too little.

How many people would have to have kept this a secret?

How many people would have to have been involved?

And that said, why has nobody come forward with anything more than grainy stock footage and their "detailed analysis?" I would venture to say that Mr. Professor from UC-Berkley never visited ground zero. He watches a load of news and, seeing as he's from Berkley, hates the crap out of Bush, though!

I suppose that Operation Iraqi Freedom is REALLY happening on a movie set in the Mojave Desert, the Virginia Tech shooter was a CIA operative, and the Beltway Sniper was a Marine Corps Scout-Sniper.

Posted on Jul 4, 2009 9:20:41 AM PDT
We just look at the evidence and think for ourselves. We don't start by assuming that the thugs who can engineer a war against a sovereign country that did not attack or even threaten us would pause at staging a "pearl harbor" event to justify their actions. In fact, they even wished in print for such an event, then a couple of years later, by golly, there it came. An unprovoked attack from a faceless, stateless (unless you think Saudi Arabia) on a national landmark that mysteriously got tired of standing up and blew itself into powder and twisted steel. Even their 47 story little brother building that was not hit, collapsed into its footprint - the first steel-framed building in history to do so - no doubt out of sympathy, which would make more sense than the sophistry of NIST in trying to substitute armwaving for physics. When your agency charged with explaining the event responds to a question about why they did not test the wreckage of the buildings for signs of explosives, they actually responded (not making this up) "why look for something that isn't there?" The breathtaking mendacity of that answer should put everyone on high alert, particularly when 9 of 9 scientists who examined the dust found positive evidence of unreacted nano-thermite and the reacted products. There are irrational conspiracy theorists around, all right. They are the ones who consume the pre-fabricated accounts the media and the government were pushing from practically the first minute of the disaster, when everyone was in shock and disbelief that it was even happening. They can't be bothered to look at evidence that has come to light by the efforts of scientists, pilots, and scholars who have shown that the official conspiracy theory simply cannot possibly be true. Yet Bradley believes!

Tell you what, Bradley. Write something that shows me you know a little bit about the solid forensics that those who doubt the official story have uncovered, and explain to me how that reacted and unreacted nano-thermite could be in the dust of the buildings, and the data submitted by the NTSB under FOIA shows that the aircraft carrying that black box that recorded the data could not have caused the damage at the Pentagon. You might have a little more credibility than you do if you simply call us names. And if you want more than "grainy stock footage, you might join us in asking the U. S. Government to release the full video record from the Pentagon, the Citgo station, and other places where they confiscated relevant video that has never been seen by the public.

Skevos says that the evidence pointing to Bin Laden is "clear and unrefutable". It might be more credible if they could show evidence that Bin Laden didn't die in Dec. 2001, as most of the rest of the world believes. Every time they need to scare us they trod out another episode of "weekend at Osama's" and Skevos just eats it up with a spoon.

Posted on Apr 29, 2010 4:39:58 PM PDT
Al Einstein says:
Considering the 9-11 report was a cover-up consisting of lies and total garbage. I believe the original official 9-11 Report should have been published in this same format. Since then 6 of the 10 Commissioners have publicly stated the entire investigation was a cover-up. 9-11 was an inside job and there is plenty of proof available to those who seek it. Two documentaries which are excellent and available on YouTube or Google Video free are "Missing Links" and "Loose Change Final Cut" which is the updated version of "Loose Change". I hate to spoil the story but for those who don't have the time to watch, 9-11 was a Mossad operation by our true enemy Israel, although the bribery to congress and control of the media lead people to think they are our friends. The attacked us before, USS Liberty. High officials within our government were also involved since we allow Israeli citizens to serve in any position within our government. A prime example is Rahm Emanuel who was Director of Mossad in North America on 9-11-2001 and served with Israeli Intelligence during the first Iraq war. Dick Cheney was in charge of our military as George the buffoon was sent to a Florida grade school to have him out of the way on that day. Dick Cheney was instrumental in keeping our military from stopping the Mossad attacks. This is why the testified only together behind closed doors, off the record and not under oath for the commission. Otherwise they could not have kept the story straight because George as we know, isn't the sharpest pencil in the box.

We need a new investigation and a new report with treason convictions for those involved in the attacks. Watch the movies and research the facts. Then we need to keep pressure on congress to call for a new investigation of 9-11. With the criminals we have in congress now, it will never happen but hopefully we can replace most of them in the next election. Most of the facts are known but the government is still withholding evidence we all want to see such as the pentagon videos. Such an event would never happen without the direct approval of the Bilderberg Group. Bush wanted to appoint Kissinger as Director of the 9-11 Commission. That would be equal to Hitler investigating the Nazi war crimes. Anybody that believes the government report is either mentally retarded or has no clue of the facts thanks to the Bilderberg controlled media. This is why Sen. Jay Rockefeller (Bilderberg) said we would be better off if the internet never existed. He introduced a bill this year to create a government censored internet. The house has already passed this draconian bill to destroy our last source of truth and creating total control of our media by the criminal elite. Combine that with McCain's Belligerent Act which will allow the secret arrest of anybody, which you will have absolutely no rights whatsoever and will be labeled as a national security threat which only an act of congress will allow your release. What is the crime you must commit to be arrested through this act? Exercising your first amendment right of freedom of speech. If you speak out against anything the government is doing or has done, you may be imprisoned for life in a labor camp or executed without trial. They don't even need to charge you with a crime, they can just take you away and you will never be seen again. This is actually a bill McCain has presented to the Senate, this is not a joke, look it up yourself. I believe it is called the "Enemy Belligerent Act". We need to watch our government and vote out all incumbents, period, no exceptions. Do not vote for either major political party as they are the problem, it does not matter which one is in power, they are both corrupt and owned by the same elite, The Bilderberg Group. Go to Infowars com to get the truth.
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