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Achilles Heel

Pedro The LionAudio CD
4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (29 customer reviews)

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  • Audio CD (May 25, 2004)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Jade Tree
  • ASIN: B0001WJN1O
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (29 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #129,485 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Bands With Managers
2. Foregone Conclusions
3. The Fleecing
4. Discretion
5. Arizona
6. Keep Swinging
7. Transcontinental
8. I Do
9. A Simple Plan
10. Start Without Me
11. The Poison

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10 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Progression and Comparisson in Pedro the Lion July 6, 2004
Format:Audio CD
hardcore Pedro fans are engaged in deabte over the validity of Achilles Heel because it's just so different from Control. sneaky Mr. Bazan had us all thinking we were getting the next chapter in the concept album saga, but read the bio page on Dave himself says he intended a less novelistic approach, and that he wanted people to hear how much fun the record was to make.
see, Control is an album of zero hope, complete dispair, and impossible escape so well done that it attaches itself to you and gets too far inside your head (as a result it's still one of my favorite albums ever). Achilles Heel is in many ways better because it doesn't force itself upon the listener. you don't have to listen to all 11 songs start to finish to get the full effect of what Bazan is communicating. this has some fans scoffing as if there was something wrong with the lyrics or the music was bland.
the secret to enjoying Achilles Heel is not expecting it to be another Control, or Winners Never Quit, or anything else you've heard before. take it for what it is: the album of Bazan's career.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Better, not Best February 4, 2005
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Any band that relies so heavily on tradgedy and pain for inspiration sooner or later has to look to the sunny side of life and that is what Achilles Heel is for Pedro the Lion. The lyrics still reflect some of the heavier themes, but the music is lighter. On Control, which I consider a master stroke of concept album brilliance, the guitars plod along and that matches the mood of the album, but this time around things are lighter. The music prances from verse to verse with a sense of being incredibly playful. The lyrics are as razor sharp as ever. Certianly what sets Pedro the Lion apart are the lyrics. The mastery in crafting every verse and chorus apparent on all previous albums remains on this one.

Many people have knocked this album for being different from the others. Personally I like to see a band evolve and I think this is just another step in that evolution. As Pedro the Lion gets older the music is bound to change as the band does. The is a breath of fresh air from a band that enjoyed choking on self-induced smog. I'm rooting for a concept album follow-up but until then I'll listen to this album and the pedro the lion backlog of greatness.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Evolution June 23, 2004
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I have been a huge Pedro the lion fan for a long time. This album is one their best. They, and by they I mean David, has come a long way since "Whole." As he changes as a person, so does his music. I personally love a lot of his old lyrics that really gave a different perspect on God which was quite refreshing. He does still have some of that in Achilles Heel, but not as much. When I had the privilege of seeing him in concert after the release of Achilles Heel, someone asked him why he didn't play his old stuff very much. He basically said that it was a different time in his life and that some of that stuff "just doesn't apply any more." I think he is a much different artist now. However, he still connects on that same level. Achilles Heel goes back to his old style of "It's hard to Find a Friend" except better. I would strongly recommend this album to anyone. David is a tremendous writer and sometimes I don't really understand what exactly he is talking about. But, I guess that's the beauty of it, because you can make it mean whatever you want to.
Favorite Quote ~ "The Poison" - "My old man always swore that hell would have no flames, just a front row seat to watch your true love pack her things, and drive away..."
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars i've hesitated to say it, album yet. January 15, 2005
Format:Audio CD
And that really is a heavy statement, given how much I enjoyed all of his previous work...notably "Winners Never Quit" and "Control."

As has been mentioned repeatedly, there's a definite departure from the overall concept album, with each track being a story in itself. While the album is a bit more upbeat than anything in the past, I think there's a very tragic element retained. I'm not a religious person, so I can't exactly identify to some of the themes discussed, but he makes it easy to empathize, and I hope those that do maintain a religious life are not put off by what they may hear..things like some objectionable language(I found it to be effectively used, rather than superfluous...such as the use of "the F word" in the song Foregone Conclusions, which portrays a sort of poetic irony). As some have mentioned, there really isn't a weak track on the album. The first time I listened to it...I loved each song as it came..and I kept thinking, "this can't possibly get any better," but repeatedly it did. My personal favorite tracks:

Arizona, Foregone Conclusions, A Simple Plan, Transcontinental, The Fleecing

Though...every song is absolutely wonderful.
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8 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Pedro's best yet February 5, 2005
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This is definitely Pedro the Lion's best album to date. David's singing has improved tremendously and is smoother than ever. The lyrics are incredibly catchy and by the second time you listen to the album, you'll already find yourself singing along. The keyboard is a great addition, proving that Pedro the Lion is always looking for new ways to innovate yet still maintain that distinct sound we have all grown to love.

"My old man always swore that hell would have no flames

Just a front row seat to watch your true love pack her things

...and drive away"
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
2.0 out of 5 stars Pulling back
2 1/2

A mild, mellow, modest mediocrity from a band expected to release somewhat more edgily engaging indie rock.
Published on September 11, 2009 by IRate
3.0 out of 5 stars Three Fantastic Songs
While this album is probably my least favorite of Pedro, it has perhaps 3 of the top 10 songs Bazan has ever written in my opinion. Read more
Published on August 4, 2007 by Ben W
4.0 out of 5 stars Not the album I'd want a band to end on...
I've been a fan of Pedro the Lion for some time, and while this album does show some progression and experimentation, it also takes several steps backwards in song-writing and... Read more
Published on December 9, 2006 by Peter Swift
4.0 out of 5 stars Oddly Entrancing
Pedro the Lion really has no excuse for not sucking. David Bazan has a terrible monotonous drone in place of a voice. Read more
Published on December 13, 2005 by Daniel Daire
4.0 out of 5 stars excellent
I didnt like this album at first,for some reason.I dont listen to many bands,but i am always looking for new stuff. Read more
Published on December 1, 2005 by second best
3.0 out of 5 stars Eh
I am a HUGE Pedro the Lion fan. I own every album and know the lyrics to every song. My excitement for the release of this album was lost when I actually listened to it. Read more
Published on August 6, 2005 by thetradeback
3.0 out of 5 stars Err...
Musically, these guys are good. Problems? Every song sounds the same, and the singer has to quit being so self-indulgent. Who cares about "Bands with Managers? Read more
Published on July 30, 2005 by Mex
1.0 out of 5 stars no thanx
this might be Pedro's best, but that's not saying much.


guys in girl's jeans


fake glasses

hair over one eye... Read more
Published on February 8, 2005 by Robert Dyer
3.0 out of 5 stars Not great
As others have mentioned this album is a departure for David Bazan. It's hip. It has a really solid "single" with the song, "discretion". Read more
Published on February 1, 2005 by Kindle Customer
5.0 out of 5 stars it's great, but for different reasons than usual.
This CD won't remind you of pedro the lion's older material. Even with the profanity of a few tracks, the cd is more radio friendly than the others. Read more
Published on December 6, 2004 by Brent Littlejohn
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