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16 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Good Stuff for the Hard-Core FZ Fan,
By Sir Charles Panther "Life is hard. It's hard... (Alexandria, Virginny, USandA) - See all my reviews (VINE VOICE) (TOP 1000 REVIEWER)
This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
You get two performances for the price of one: enforced recreation/drama and musical presentation.
This is a FZ/Mothers of Invention London Royal Festival Hall concert from October 28th, 1968. The FZ faithful have heard a litle bit of this show before, specifically "Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask" and "The Orange County Lumber Truck" on Weasels Ripped My Flesh. Other than these (edited) bits, this is newly released material. FZ calls the first half of the album a "cheesy little psycho drama," and if you're a fan of traditional Mothers of Invention stage antics, you're in hog heaven. By comparison, this is no involved epic a la Fillmore East: June 1971. The cheez factor is pretty high here, with some sight gags onstage, easy enough to figure out if you're really listening and have read the liner notes. It's standard FZ on-the-road musical theater, with shots at pop music and pop culture, with a mildly enthusiastic and strictly polite English audience laughing and applauding in all of the right places. This album doesn't warm up musically until track 11 and "King Kong," and it's only after track 15, "Sleeping in a Jar" that this musical portion of the show really picks up and starts to rock. The album then just steamrolls through the finale, a wonderful, extended, full, boss-band "Orange County Lumber Truck (Part II)." FZ himself, true to form, is a bit more critical, describing this musical portion of the album (tracks 11-20) as "a fair-not outstanding--1968 MOI rock concert performance." The liner notes are a true winner, produced like an old-timey theater handbill. On one side you've got a great full-color Cal Schenkel portrait-suitable for framing! On the flip side you've got the handbill itself, also illustrated by Cal Schenkel, with a list of the artists, background on the show and its recording, a plot of the psycho drama, and a semi-detailed track listing. Is this album for the FZ novice? Nope. This is not an entry-level FZ recording. It's a bit too esoteric, a little too deep into the FZ/MOI cosmology. But, for the true FZ/MOI fan-you betcha; it's a must. This is well worth the investment for the first ten tracks alone, and is a keeper for the great live FZ/MOI songs in the second half of the album.
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
First half comedy, second half serious get out of the way,
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This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
The first half of this cd is amusing FZ mothers bantor, which in itself is not a bad reason to buy this cd. Funny and imaginative.... but, track 13-20 starting with 'Transylvania Boogie' on through 'Orange County Lumber Truck prt 2' is serious mother smashing down some grooves. Way wonderful. Worth the price of admission.. and if you don't have any early mother material, this is a great one to start out with. very enjoyable.
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The Original Mothers at their Live Best,
By Brion Emde "What appears to be coming at you,... (Loveland, CO USA) - See all my reviews (REAL NAME)
This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
This is an excellent album. It contains most of a concert that the Mothers of Invention performed in London in 1968. The first half of the album features the London Philharmonic Orchestra performing some of Zappa's chamber music that eventually appeared in the film 200 Motels two years later. This music is interspersed with a semi-improvised psychodrama performed by the members of the Mothers. The chamber music is beautiful, if somewhat primitive by the standards of Bogus Pomp from Zappa's London Symphony Orchestra album. The play's dialog is entertaining. Especially enjoyable is Roy Estrada's 'audition' consisting of an abbreviated version of Holiday in Berlin.The second half of the album is a performance of early Mothers' music, brilliantly sequenced. The rendition of King Kong on the album contains the seldom heard Ark segment. Zappa's guitar soloing on the Orange County Lumber Truck is an extended version of that found on the album Weasels Ripped My Flesh and is very masterful. This is an album that I never grow tired of hearing. The orchestral music combined with the driving musical power of the Mothers makes for very enjoyable listening.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Historical Archive-Prelude to 200 Motels,
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This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
I would put the value of this CD in the same class as an interview CD. It gives you some perspective on what Frank Zappa with the Mothers of Invention were doing at the time. As an entertainment CD or music CD, you might not want to play this more than once, especially when there are better Zappa CD's out there.
There are a number of things wrong with this CD. If you really want this, you should search out the video. Maybe you can find it on Zappa's website. The sound is poor. There is a buzzing noise and the dynamic range is flat. It has that echo, bootleg king of sound. There are other CD's from this time period that sound much better. All of the Beat the Boots CD's have better sound quality. Beat the Boots is where Zappa took bootleg albums and remastered them so they have decent sound. I don't know why the effort was not taken with this CD. The first 25 minutes of this CD is a play, similar to what they did on 200 Motels, about band friction issues. The problem is that much of the humor is visual. You had to be there to appreciate it. There are blank spots and you hear people laughing, but you don't know why (maybe if photos of the concert were included in the liner notes, it would help). There is about 40 minutes of wonderful music. But, these are all the same instrumentals that the Mothers of Invention were playing during that time period. If you have the Beat the Boot series of CD's, you have all this same stuff. But, I do have to admit that the Mothers of Invention were a jam band, and they never played everything quite the same twice. But, is it different enough? The one difference on this CD is that there is an orchestra. But, the orchestra only has impact during the first 25 minutes when the group is clowning around. It is hard to pick out the orchestra playing in the last half of the CD. Are they even there? If you like Zappa's clowning around on stage and don't care about sound quality, than this might be the CD for you. Another to think about getting would be Playground Psychotics.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Truly ahead of their time,
By RoR noob "sal" (san diego, CA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
I picked this up because I'm a fan of live FZ/MOI. Some performances are legendary-this one is not. It is superb, however, because it documents a musical phenom in his early phase. I continually am fascinated by Zappa's abilities as composer. The orchestral pieces echo Lumpy Gravy/In It for the Money, and you can hear material that would find its way onto Weasels Ripped my Flesh. The early MOI are a great band, but Zappa constantly tweaked them to get the maximum juice into his music. The melodic phrasing/interplay between Preston, Zappa, and Sherwood is really laid back and comfortable. You could tell they're playing hard. Getting to hear Roy Estrada talk is also a treat. The Rejected Mexican Pope bit is funny, and he really does have a funny voice (The Radio is Broken/Nowhere)! Mothers fans should have this CD. The original lineup is often overlooked in favor of the other bands. They should be appreciated, too. This album gives you a fair idea of what an early MOI performance was. Worth the money. I give it four and a half stars because sound improves later in the show.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
yes another fab gig,
By "theslime" (DUBLIN) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
combines zappa 'serious' stuff and wacky vocal stuff and lovely zappa rock instrumentals. Loads of the serious stuff popped up on 200 motels; it pays repeated listening. Roy estrada sings holiday in berlin wondefully. Some of the dialogue is very funny, some of it isn't. King kong rocks. transylvania boogie is agreat tune. zappa plays some quality guitar near the end in an amazing orange county lumber truck. oh no has great guitar too, and pound for a brown also. It's a really good album worth checking out. Not his best live stuff by any means, but really entertaining. Thank you
4.0 out of 5 stars
A great addition to a FZ/M Collection,
By Phil S. (USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
I'm not sure if the title of this CD is well thought out: who out there has ever touched this group to this day, for rock-jazz-classical expositions? Sometimes doo-wop is mixed in - never out of place.
I bought this CD primarily to hear the original long versions of "The Orange County Lumber Truck" and "Oh No". Still love the "Weasels..." pressing of said compositions, but now 11:12 of a time-capsule nominee! The usual tasteful trappings through the Zappa family Trust.
3.0 out of 5 stars
TWO DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT PERFORMANCES,
By COMPUTERJAZZMAN "computerjazzman" (Cliffside Park, New Jersey United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
THERE ARE SOME GREAT FRANK ZAPPA/MOI BOOTLEGS OUT THERE ON THE MARKET. THIS AIN'T ONE OF THEM. RECORDED LIVE IN 1968, THE FIRST HALF OF THE ALBUM IS HORRIBLE, A LOT OF STUPID ONSTAGE THEATRICS, BUT THE SECOND HALF OF THE ALBUM, STARTING WITH TRACK 11 (KING KONG)IS MORE INSTRUMENTAL IN NATURE AND IS MUCH MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OLD ORIGINAL MOTHERS'. THE RECORDING QUALITY IS NOT SO GREAT. UNEVEN OUTPUT ON THIS CD, A LOT OF IT IS GOOD, BUT SOME OF IT CAN'T EVEN BE LISTENED TO, PARTICULARLY THE FIRST HALF.
5.0 out of 5 stars
best album ever!!!!!!,
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This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
This is great. I have heard a lot of albums in my life...and now I think this is the best album I have ever heard. Really.
4.0 out of 5 stars
Don't Start at the Beginning,
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This review is from: Ahead of Their Time (Audio CD)
If you like strong instrumental play, or you're new to Zappa, start at the King Kong track and listen until the end. I find the tracks leading up to the King Kong track not to my liking. This CD seems like it could have been two separate cd's. The first 10 tracks (~27 minutes) being one and the next 10 tracks (~40 Minutes) being another. I'm a fan of the first Zappa band and 1968 is my favorite year from them. This concert was recorded a few months after "Uncle Meat", which I love, but this is more musically fluid. If you lean toward the more instrumental and/or big band side of Zappa the 1988 - 1991 period is great. Check out "The Best Band You Never Heard", and "Make A Jazz Noise Here".
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Ahead of Their Time by Frank Zappa (Audio CD - 1995)
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