Amazon.com: America B.C.: Ancient Settlers in the New World (9780812906240): Barry Fell: Books

Buy Used
Used - Acceptable See details
$8.31 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details

or
Sign in to turn on 1-Click ordering.
 
   
Sell Back Your Copy
For a $0.13 Gift Card
Trade in
Have one to sell? Sell yours here
America B.C.: Ancient Settlers in the New World
 
See larger image
 
Tell the Publisher!
I'd like to read this book on Kindle

Don't have a Kindle? Get your Kindle here, or download a FREE Kindle Reading App.

America B.C.: Ancient Settlers in the New World [Hardcover]

Barry Fell (Author)
3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (29 customer reviews)


Available from these sellers.


Formats

Amazon Price New from Used from
Hardcover --  
Paperback --  

Book Description

November 1976
Druids in Vermont? Phoenicians in Iowa? These are just a few of the interesting bits of information contained in this volume of American pre-history. This groundbreaking work shatters many of the myths of America centuries ago.
--This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.


Product Details

  • Hardcover: 312 pages
  • Publisher: Times Books (November 1976)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0812906241
  • ISBN-13: 978-0812906240
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6 x 1.1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.5 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (29 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #647,020 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

More About the Author

Discover books, learn about writers, read author blogs, and more.

 

Customer Reviews

29 Reviews
5 star:
 (12)
4 star:
 (7)
3 star:
 (4)
2 star:
 (2)
1 star:
 (4)
 
 
 
 
 
Average Customer Review
3.7 out of 5 stars (29 customer reviews)
 
 
 
 
Share your thoughts with other customers:
Most Helpful Customer Reviews

100 of 104 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A Truly Revolutionary Work, Whatever Its Flaws, March 29, 2001
By 
Holy Olio "holy_olio" (Grand Rapids, MI USA) - See all my reviews
-----

This book was not unlike many others before and since which suggest Precolumbian transoceanic contact. The thing that sets it apart is the fact that Barry Fell had a mastery of ancient languages and epigraphy that may never have been bettered. His legacy will endure long after those who slandered and libeled him are classified alongside those ninnies who claim the Moon landings were hoaxed.

A few corrections to some misconceptions, some of which are found in other reviews of this title:

The Mystery Hill megalithic structures in Vermont were NOT built by colonial farmers. A colonial era family did once live on the site, but the major structures already existed when those folks arrived. The serious study of the site began years ago, and has entered the hallowed halls of academia. The site was constructed thousands of years ago, long before the freakin' Pilgrims. There's a nice website, the URL for which I'd include, but that's not permitted in reviews. Anyone who has visited the Mystery Hill site (now billed as "America's Stonehenge") would be able to see how foolish and simpleminded it was to suggest a colonial origin -- the entire hilltop is covered by rows of stones laid out not as orderly pastures or pens, but in a way that is not unlike Glastonbury tor and other mazelike "Old World" sites.

The Vikings did reach the Americas. There's an unequivocally Viking site on Newfoundland that has been known and excavated for over 30 years. Even before that was identified, the Newport Round Tower was shown to be Viking in origin, although there remains plenty of denial of this fact. Verazzano saw the tower, and sent a landing party ashore to investigate the area, during his mapping expedition which took place long before the first governor of Rhode Island was born, making it difficult for the latter character to have built the Tower. An excavation to prove a colonial origin did take place, but not surprisingly the conclusions fit the original assumptions.

The Americas have a large number of existing foreign inscriptions predating Columbus, and other well documented examples formerly existed but have been destroyed by development, vandalism, and the march of time. There are those who deny the existence of these, but such folks have no credibility. Fell didn't go beyond his data, in fact he spent quite a lot of time examining and exposing as hoaxes a number of supposed ancient inscriptions.

Another foolish idea is that a ship could have been wrecked, and seeds, artifacts, and other traces of human activity could float across the Atlantic or Pacific, without a crew, and recovered on the shore by Native Americans. But a fully crewed ship could not have crossed. This is despite the fact that such claims originate with landlubbers, and wrecked ships go right to the bottom.

Contrary to what "Please don't believe this book" wrote August 29, 1999, Barry Fell didn't "claim that scientists are just trying to cover up the truth". This is just the most childish slander that I've seen in these reviews. The bias against any contact before Columbus arose late in the 19th century and by the early decades of the 20th century was a religion. When the first Clovis artifacts were found, the dating was attacked because the religion said that no one had lived in the Americas prior to about 1000 BC. After Clovis prevailed, the religion became "Clovis First and Only". Tom Dillehay has spent about twenty years being ridiculed and attacked for finding that PreClovis site in South America, far from the supposed landbridge ingress of all the ancestors of Native Americans. Although there are some trying to dig in their heels and defend CFAO, it is essentially dead.

One has to wonder why the irrational devotion to such a ridiculous idea as isolation has endured regarding human occupation of the Americas, Japan, and Australia, among other places. In the case of the Americas, PreColumbian contact would mean that various claims on the land were not the first. As ridiculous as that seems, if a Roman wreck were identified, say, off the coast of Brazil, that could mean that Italy has a claim that supercedes that of Portugal. Such an event has occurred, and the underwater archaeologist trying to study it was kicked off the site by the Brazilian government.

Barry Fell's work, particularly that found in ESOP, was and remains revolutionary. The Epigraphic Society has a website, and James Trimm maintains a mail list on epigraphy with an interest in ancient navigators.

In 1978 Barry Fell published translations of Etruscan, showing that it belonged to the Anatolian group of languages, including Minoan which is expressed in Linear A. Likewise, he noted the elements of the much later Petrachian sonnet in a surviving pre-Roman Etruscan inscription. That the internal architecture of some Etruscan tombs is identical with Minoan tombs which were made by a culture supposedly long gone nearly a thousand years earlier was pointed out by another heretical scholar, Hans Wunderlich, in his "The Secret of Crete" (ISBN 0026316005 or 0285621645).

Although Immanuel Velikovsky must have been unaware of these two developments, the elimination of the phony "dark age" of Greece in his reconstruction of history is consistent with and supported by both. It's interesting that in "Ramses II and His Time" (p 90, ISBN 1568490240) Velikovsky suggested that the "Hittite" library preserved an extensive library of Etruscan, since the misdating of the archive will have prevented such an identification.

"Removing the historical scene to where it belongs, namely, to the seventh and sixth centuries before the present era, we wonder which of these languages is Chaldean, which Phrygian, which Lydian, which Median, which perchance Etruscan, spoken by a people who came to Italy from Asia Minor... 'Hittite' was the language most commonly used during the Empire period. Modern scholarship found that Lydian 'seems to be Hittite' -- the Lydian and the 'Hittite' kingdoms were contemporary, and used the same language. Hurrian... is but a mistaken name for Carian."

Other books by Barry Fell:

-:- Saga America

-:- Bronze Age America

Also see my ListMania lists.

Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


66 of 75 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Be very careful with this, October 6, 2000
I feel that I owe Barry Fell a great debt for helping to reawaken my personal sense of wonder. I found myself walking around, oblivious to the world around me, completely preoccupied with his ideas, for many months. Many of them do seem possible, too.

Just be careful what you believe, reader. Yes, some of this stuff might be true. Also, I applaud anyone out there who's mind is awake enough to even care about this kind of thing. Not everyone would read a book like this. Still, his arguments sometimes do have holes. The stone chambers in New England, which he feels were made by pre-Columbian Celts, were most likely created by colonial farmers. A lot of very serious archaeologists, who really know what they're talking about, have studied the New England stuff in depth, and they tend to disagree with Dr. Fell.

Some of his conclusions really might hold water though. I want him to be right. Some of his ideas about Algonquin, American place names deriving from age-old Celtic words are particularly exciting to me. There is a highly respected archaeologist at the University of Calgary, a Dr. David Kelley, who believes some of Fells ideas are correct. For perspective, it is useful to know that this same Dr. Kelley supported various ideas about the nature of Mayan hieroglyphics at a time when the "establishment", such as it was, was totally against them. Time proved Kelley right on that matter -- perhaps he is correct about this as well. I hope he is. Just don't be TOO credulous, whoever reads this. For some reason Barry Fells ideas seem to have given him an almost cult-like following. Don't be a cult member. Some people just have a knee-jerk negative reaction to anything "the establishment" says, but there IS no establishment, archaeology is a field of study, and if Dr. Fells ideas are right, time will prove him to be so. Just try to think through what he says, and if you have the means, maybe do a little investigating on your own.

Other sources of information you might want to look at would include the cover article in the January 2000 edition of the "Atlantic Monthly", or "Columbus was Last" by Patrick Huyghe. I think "Columbus was Last" is out of print, but if you can find it through inter-library loan, or online, I would encourage you to do so. Huyghe presents Fells arguments, and many others, supporting the idea of pre-Columbian contact between America and Europe or Asia. Also, his book has a terrific bibliography, for further reading.

I just finally wanted to say that I disagree with people who politicize Fell's ideas. He isn't demeaning native American cultures by implying that a few tiny, obscure elements of them may once have originated in Europe. Every culture in the world has impurities in that sense -- our own language, English, is probably the biggest hodgepodge of intercultural linguistic borrowings in the world. My final comment would be to be careful that you don't get completely swayed by Fell's way of presenting his ideas. He BELIEVES he is right, in a very strong way, and this had an impact on his objectivity on many levels. Just be careful reading this, and join me in HOPING he's right, for the sheer coolness of his ideas.

Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


32 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I loved it, March 1, 2000
By 
This review is from: America B.C.: Ancient Settlers in the New World (Hardcover)
Barry Fell's book was very enlightening. The spiel that there was no intercontinental travel previous to ca. 1400 CE. short-sighted. The mainstream scientific establishment as of late (especially in America (and yes, I'm an American)) has become as Dogmatic as the church was before the reformation. New ideas that go against the establishment are quickly labeled "Heretical" and the authors are usually shunned (Dr. Atkins would be a prime example) by other scientists/scholars that could greatly benefit from discourse with a person championing and alternative to what is currently accepted. Galileo faced the same pressures in his lifetime and the scientific establishment needs to learn and accept that innovation and breakthrough often come from outside the establishment. I believe that modern Archaeologists need to take a serious look into the issues that Fell (and others like Hans Holzer, etc.) are raising. I found the information that ancient Macedonian pottery shards had been found in Northern California to be especially exciting. I believe that any student of history or archaeology owes it to themselves to pick up this book and give it a read, besides, even if you don't believe everything Fell has to say, it would still be decent entertainmen :)
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No

Share your thoughts with other customers: Create your own review
 
 
 
Most Recent Customer Reviews











Only search this product's reviews




Tags Customers Associate with This Product

 (What's this?)
Click on a tag to find related items, discussions, and people.
 

Your tags: Add your first tag
 

Sell a Digital Version of This Book in the Kindle Store

If you are a publisher or author and hold the digital rights to a book, you can sell a digital version of it in our Kindle Store. Learn more

Customer Discussions

This product's forum
Discussion Replies Latest Post
No discussions yet

Ask questions, Share opinions, Gain insight
Start a new discussion
Topic:
First post:
Prompts for sign-in
 


Active discussions in related forums
Search Customer Discussions
Search all Amazon discussions
   
Related forums





Look for Similar Items by Category


Look for Similar Items by Subject

Search Books by subject:










i.e., each book must be in subject 1 AND subject 2 AND ...