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It surprised me...actually quite good, May 25, 2008
This review is from: Ancient-Future Worship: Proclaiming and Enacting God's Narrative (Paperback)
This is the first Webber book I have read. I was originally uncomfortable with his ideas (about five years ago) but having recently been dismayed with all modernist Christianities (be they liberal, Evangelical, or some Reformed), and given a recent interest in Patristic thought, I decided to give this book a chance.
Webber defines "ancient-future" worship as "publically enacting God's narrative." The worshipping church tells God's narrative, which Webber carefully defines, following the Eastern tradition, as "Creation-Incarnation-Recreation." Given this, an ancient-future church will proclaim God's Scriptures as "true," but not merely in the Enlightenment style of "proving the Bible."
Ancient-future worship will climax in the Eucharist. The Eucharist tells the story of the Incarnate, who while being in the womb of the Virgin, united humanity to his nature so that he may redeem humanity and the world. The bread and wine symbolize the life of the world; the life being given to the world. Christ is really present. The Patristics, contra the moderns (be they conservative or liberal), saw the reality inherent in a sign.
Conclusion:
I don't have any cons with this book. However, I do have some concerns with the movement. Webber has good ideas and recommendations because Webber brings a tremendous balance and depth to the discussion. Many of the followers, particularly evangelicals who read Christianity Today (sorry; there's no nice way I can say this) will read Webber without the heavy Byzantine spectacles and come up with some very wacky applications. While the Ancient-Faith movement is superior to most of what passes as American Evangelicalism, it more often seems like "there was no king in Israel and everyone did what was right in his own eyes."
It is very easy to read and flows very well. Webber cuts across the so-called "worship wars." He notes how staid traditionalism and silly happy-clappyism easily tend toward idolatry and man-worship. An ancient-future model provides a glorious alternative.
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11 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
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A Thought Provoking Read, January 12, 2009
This review is from: Ancient-Future Worship: Proclaiming and Enacting God's Narrative (Paperback)
This is a book that I wrestled with as I read through it.
I believe it's the final book in the "Ancient Future" series, but it's the first I've read by Webber. I didn't get the sense that you absolutely have to read these books in order as I immediately engaged with the subject-matter and the approach.
In this book, Webber made me grapple with how the Enlightment and modern thinking has impacted my understanding and approach to the Bible, prayer, worship, and the Eucharist. At numerous times, Webber made me uncomfortable (my modernist mind?!) to wrestle with the mysteries of God.
I'm sure this book is most often used by church leaders and pastors, but it shouldn't be exclusively read by that group. It's an important resource for the laity as well and will challenge you in how you read the Word, how you pray, and in the story of God's interaction with humanity across history.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
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"worship does God's story", March 1, 2011
This review is from: Ancient-Future Worship: Proclaiming and Enacting God's Narrative (Paperback)
In his posthumously published book, Ancient-Future Worship, Robert Webber presents a deceptively simple definition of worship: "worship does God's story" (p. 29) by which he means that worship is rooted in God's saving deeds in the past (the "ancient) while at the same time it anticipates God's vision for the world (the "future").
It almost seems too obvious to state--if we have already recognized that authentic Christian corporate worship is shaped by Scripture and is Trinitarian--that worship should be about God's people publically enacting God's narrative. Yet this is a foundational truth.
Moreover, God's story is not simply told from the perspective of an objective observer of ancient history: through worship, the community of God becomes actively involved in the redemption story of God and God's people. Just as the Jews---though separated by many generations--could speak of the Passover as an event in which they had been participants, so we as Christians can speak of the cross and the Eucharist as participants.
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