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Ancilla to the Pre-Socratic Philosophers: A Complete Translation of the Fragments in Diels (Forgotten Books) [Paperback]

Kathleen Banks Freeman (Author)
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October 16, 2008
This is a translation of nearly every scrap of the writings of the Greek Pre-Socratic Philosophers, from the nearly legendary Orpheus, through Thales, Pythagoras, Heracleitus, Zeno, and Democritus. Included are translations of all known quotations from each writer, names of lost books they wrote, what other authors said about their beliefs, as well as spurious and dubious quotes. Some of the entries, indeed most, are very short, as we only know the names and a bit of biography for some of these figures. This book is a great reference for this topic, and makes fascinating reading. (Quote from sacred-texts.com)

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Kathleen Freeman (June 22, 1897 - February 21, 1959) was a British classical scholar and (under the pseudonym Mary Fitt) author of detective novels.

She was born at Yardley, Birmingham, the daughter of a commercial traveller; she attended the University College of South Wales and Monmouthshire in Cardiff (BA 1918, MA 1922, DLitt 1940) where she was appointed Lecturer in Greek in 1919. She lived from some time in the 1930s till her death at Lark's Rise, a house in St Mellons (now a district of Cardiff). She resigned from the University in 1946.

In 1936 she chose the pseudonym Mary Fitt for her mysteries, writing 27 books and a number of short stories, many of which feature detective Inspector (later Superintendent) Mallett. Between 1946 and 1954 she published a number of books on classical subjects aimed mainly at what she called "ordinary people" rather than specialists; these included The pre-Socratic philosophers (1946), The murder of Herodes and other trials from the Athenian law courts (1946), The Greek way: an anthology (1947), Greek city states (1950), God, Man and state. Greek concepts (1952), and The paths of justice (1954). S

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  • Paperback: 248 pages
  • Publisher: Forgotten Books (October 16, 2008)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1606802569
  • ISBN-13: 978-1606802564
  • Product Dimensions: 8.9 x 6 x 0.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 14.1 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 2.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
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2.0 out of 5 stars Perhaps not what you are expecting, March 23, 2011
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This review is from: Ancilla to the Pre-Socratic Philosophers: A Complete Translation of the Fragments in Diels (Forgotten Books) (Paperback)

Two reviewers have already pointed out a severely misleading
feature of this book -- only the translations are supplied. That
matters because Presocratic philosophical fragments are an
inescapably iffy business. Much depends on the reliability and
motivations of the author (say, Plato) citing the Presocratic
philosopher (say, Heraclitus). For example, most scholars
consider Diogenes Laertius's Lives and Opinions of Eminent
Philosophers to be of dubious reliability as a source of
fragments. The present book offers little or none of that crucial
contextual information. You will need Freeman's other book, which
appears to be out of print.

Three books that do provide a wealth of fragments (though not as
many as Freeman does) as well as ample contextual information are

* Jonathan Barnes, Early Greek Philosophy

* RD McKirahan, Philosophy Before Socrates

* GS Kirk, JE Raven, and M. Schofeld, The Presocratic Philosophers

All three are available in paperback, and the first two are
accessible even to the beginner. Barnes, in particular, devotes
much attention to the context in which a PreSocratic philosopher
is quoted. For that reason, Barnes book may for many readers be
far worthier than Freeman's Ancilla used alone.

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3.0 out of 5 stars Still needed, October 25, 2011
This review is from: Ancilla to the Pre-Socratic Philosophers: A Complete Translation of the Fragments in Diels (Forgotten Books) (Paperback)
I'm reading/following Graham's translation currently; yet, I'm still using Freeman's translation (of translation!) just to know and note the differences. Posting comments here actually would not work: what we have at hand is just different versions of translations --translations which are trying to approximate an ideal form. Thus, Freeman's translation would not be a fair source neither for interpretative purposes nor for a deep understanding (if possible) of early Greek philosophy.
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