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Thoughtful sceptics will not be impressed, September 18, 1998
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This review is from: Answers for Atheists, Agnostics, and Other Thoughtful Skeptics: Dialogs About Christian Faith and Life (Paperback)
Maybe the author has been hanging around xians so long he HAS forgotten what it means to be thoughtful, but the so-called skeptic presented as a foil in this book's dialogue format is anything but that. For example when the skeptic asks why we should accept the authority of the bible, the xian simply informs him that Jesus accepted the Old Testament as authoritative. The skeptic then says something like "Well, that takes care of the Old Testament, but what about the New?" Give me a break! Make no mistake: there is no one is this book who is presented as thoughtful. The author engages in a lot of stereotyping. The atheist guy states at one point that he has gotten a couple of girlfriends pregnant and then forced them into having abortions. And he admits that he's worried that he'll do the same thing again. What nonsense. Beisner should have just made the guy a cannibal or a serial rapist-- or a member of the ACLU-- while he was at it. If you're going to make a straw man, you might as well go all out. The xian protaganist says the usual ridiculous things, but the atheist also utters such absurd statements and caves in so easily to pathetic arguments that one might wonder whether Beisner has ever really met any skeptics-- or at least any over the age of eight. Beisner's book has such awful arguments for his position one might wonder too whether Beisner himself thinks that xianity can withstand any REAL skepticism instead of this absurd caricature. This book is for xians only, especially for those afraid of real skeptics. Real skeptics and freethinkers will just laugh.
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37 of 46 people found the following review helpful:
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Preaching to the choir; Unconvincing to an educated atheist., May 17, 1997
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This review is from: Answers for Atheists, Agnostics, and Other Thoughtful Skeptics: Dialogs About Christian Faith and Life (Paperback)
By its own admission, "Answers for Atheists" was originally written with a specific audience in mind: those Christians who would travel as missionaries to former Soviet Union countries, and who needed philosophical ammunition with which to convince their citizens to give up atheism and convert to Christianity. Most of these people were, of course, raised as atheists as a matter of state policy, and not well-researched, deeply held personal philosophy.
Unfortunately, the arguments the book raises have all been answered and soundly refuted by well-educated atheists for many years. Only someone who took its arguments at face value and did not think about them or research the well-documented refutations would end up convinced.
Fortunately for the author of "Answers for Atheists", he chose to structure the book as a series of dialogs between two fictional friends: a Christian and a credulous, uneducated atheist. Although reluctant to believe at first, the atheist's responses to the Christian's arguments are weak and ineffective, and at each turn he simply caves in. While reading this book, I found myself repeatedly saying, "Wait! But what about...?" Is it any surprise that by the end of the book the Christian has managed to convert his fictional friend?
"Answers for Atheists" is preaching to the choir, plain and simple. By posing only "first level" arguments and weak refutations, it ultimately insults the intelligence of its readers, Christians and atheists alike.
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20 of 25 people found the following review helpful:
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The Strawman Atheist, July 19, 2003
This review is from: Answers for Atheists, Agnostics, and Other Thoughtful Skeptics: Dialogs About Christian Faith and Life (Paperback)
This book isn't very good if your intent is to arm yourself with arguments to present to your pals who are thoughtful skeptics, atheists, and agnostics. Beisner gives us a strawman atheist. His name is Dave, supposedly well-educated and very thoughtful. Dave turns out to be an easy pushover, knocked over with every argument his buddy Jim makes. Jim is a Superman-Christian who always has the right thing to say and never fouls up an argument. He is as unrealistic as the stereotypical atheist Dave is. When Cal Beisner finds it necessary to introduce an old theodicy argument that has been laid to rest by skeptics, he brings into Jim's living room, for this chapter only, a neophyte christian who uses the argument against Dave so it can be shot down to introduce a more (relatively) polished version of the theodicy by Jim. Once this neophyte has served his purpose, we never hear from him again. Even Dave is too stupid to see the inadequacy of the neophytes argument until Jim first points out a weakness in it then (!!!!!) alight goes on in Dave's head and he sees the flaw and attacks the argument, but only because Superman Jim has first pointed it out to him. Superman Jim is an unrealistic character. No christian has all the right arguments all the time like Jim does. Beisner could have better served his targeted audience by making Jim a little more fallible, maybe being stumped a couple of times by questions raised from Dave, so he could demonstrate to his christian audience the way to handle these type of situations. A "I don't know, but I will research this for you and get back with you later..." for example. Then Beisner could have written how Jim conducted his research and did word-studies in the original languages, refering to key study tools by name, so his targeted audience could learn how to behave when they are stumped. Being stumped does not necessarily mean you are stupid neither is it necessarily a bad thing. But Superman Jim never fouls up, he always knows exactly which book to reach for, and always has the exact comeback needed. Unfortunately, to compound the problem, Beisner never goes beyond level one arguments. His strawman is too ignorant to rebut the arguments of his antagonist Jim. Most skeptics in the real world already have rebuttals to Jim's seemingly unanswerable rebuttals to Dave. These are the rebuttals that Christians who will rely on this book will encounter when they run into a truly knowledgeable and thoughtful skeptic. Had Beisner been a little more knowledgeable about these level two rebuttals, he could have shown christians how to deal with them. While it is true rebuttals could go on for several levels, merely settling for level one rebuttals seem to me to be grossly negligent. It is appears to me to disingeneously represent skeptics as having a wicked past (getting women pregnant and forcing them to have abortions), easily bowled over by the simplest of arguments, offering virtually no resistance, and being very passive in the dialogue while the Christian Superman Jim is clearly portrayed as the dominant male and he contols the conversation from start to finish. In real life, this will not happen, as the Christian will discover the tide can shift dramatically depending on the specific subject at hand and the knowledge of his opponent. Beisner could have prepared his intended audience on how to deal with these situations. Many Christians simply do not know how to deal with situations in which their opponent has more knowledge than they and they could have benefited by Beisner's book more if he had addressed this situation in his book and shown Jim to be more human. I would have respected Beisner's effort a great deal more. Thankfully, I have learned to deal with times where I am unsure of a certain argument and I have learned that admitting ignorance carries no shame with it. In fact, it can gain you more respect. Then you go home and study and investigate until you find the answer your skeptical friend is looking for. And if you can't find it, admit it, then offer alternatives that may be just as viable. To sum up, this book will benefit a christian only if he is dealing with a skeptic who is familiar with only level one arguments against Christianity and knows no rebuttals to the Christian rebuttals. Dave is not very thoughtful, he is easily stumped, too passive, feels guilt over things which suggest a christian worldview (premarital sex and abortion), and just too unrealistic. But more importantly, Jim is too invincible to be used as an example for readers to emulate. This book needs to be rewritten and updated so it could be a teaching tool for a real life situation.
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