Customer Reviews

Apple Power Mac G5 Desktop M9032LL/A (Dual 2.0-GHz PowerPC G5, 512 MB RAM, 160 GB Hard Drive, DVD-R/CD-RW Drive)

5 star:		(20)
4 star:		(3)
3 star:		(2)
2 star:		(2)
1 star:		(6)

 

 

Once again, Apple leads the way. A super-fast, dual processor "flying" machine. Apple certainly has a way of packaging innovation into a box that virtually explodes when you need computing power. The G5 processor is part of the latest technology from IBM. It is a true 64-bit processor with automatic 32-bit processing capability (that translates to more speed because selection of 32 or 64 bit processing is handled directly by hardware.)
Apple includes their latest, highly stable, Unix-based operating system, OS X. A high powered graphics engine rounds out the core capabilities.
Apple has not forgotten the latest technology advances either.
The disk is Serial ATA, USB is version 2.0, both FireWire and FireWire 800 ports are included.
If you want to try wireless networking, the G5 is ready for AirPort Extreme (an optional card to allow your Mac to network wirelessly at up to 56 Mbps - 802.11g standard. Intel is still expounding the virtues of Centrino - 802.11b, which maxes out at 11 Mbps.) BlueTooth is another option, for wireless connectivity of closely located devices (printers, mice, keyboards, some cellular phones, etc.)
Additonal Features: The dual-processor model has eight memory slots (memory must be installed in matched pairs) for up to 8 GB of RAM. The SuperDrive allows you to read and write CDs and DVDs.
With all this going for it, can there be any negative points? Unfortunately, yes. Since they are minor points, in my opinion, they don't detract from the overall rating. The included keyboard seems a bit flimsy. The optical mouse needs a medium to dark colored, slightly textured, non-reflective surface to operate properly. Also, the price-point is still a bit high.
Overall, this machine is a great performer, extremely fast, stable and just plain fun to use.

To complain about prices or chosen base graphics card is ridiculous. If you want to compare this product with a custom made computer... CUSTOM ADD SOME STUFF TO IT! The price of PC3200 memory is exactly the same for this as for a P4 system. Find 512MB sticks for 115 bucks each and then pop 8 in. Presto, 4 gigs for 900 bucks (AN ABSOLUTE BARGAIN!)It would cost more than twice that on a Dell (Dell=gag!).

I actually appreciate the barebones nature of this machine, it allowed me to save money by pricewatching my memory instead of paying the out of box price. Try maxing out a Sony PC, or even a Dell out of the box, its way more money than if you just pop in some yourself.

Compare this beauty to a Sony desktop, its every bit as slick and its actually usefully slick instead of just shiny to get you to pay more money. And seriosly, PC gamers are ruining the whole idea of computers as powerful tools, and Microsoft is doing a glorios job at promoting this. Win XP is THE video game platform for all the twenty somethings that should really just grow up. Big video graphics cards aren't even used by Windows except in games, OS X panther uses video hardware every chance it gets and enhances productivity. This machine is for work for Pete's sake, look at the price tag. If you're using this primarily for games, you simply have no respect for your dollar. Plain and simple.

About OS X, I would pay 200-400 dollars extra just for this operating system. It is actually worth money to me, VS Win XP which is a dime a dozen. If the speed were the same or slower i would still want Panther, it is quite simply DESIRABLE. It makes me want to work, and it definitely promotes creativity. My PC is like creating inside a prison cell. Panther is like a summer cabin.

Compare this to any similarly priced PC out of the box and you would see that there is little comparison. Compare this to a custom made PC, and you would have to admit that the case and cooling alone would have a market value of 400 bucks. Buy it barebones and add stuff if you're concerned about the bang for your buck. It's simply right for professionals to be open about these machines, Apple doesn't reverse engineer like Microsoft does... it actually comes up with things, and makes using a computer interesting again.

PROS:
Amazing speed, and extremely quiet! I'm quite surprised that no one has yet given a review to this wonderful piece of equipment. I guess you don't need to. That statement about "you get what you pay for" is very true. But if you actually look at it, if I were to buy a top of the line dual AMD Opteron or Pentium Xeon system with the same basic configuration, I'd be spending about the same amount of money. And as a graphic designer, I almost went totally PC when I purchased a Pentium 2.8GHz HT (Hyper Threading - the so-called "multitasking" want a be Mac processor) for my wife. Well much to my dismay, I was using a demo of Adobe Photoshop CS to test the PCs' skills, only to find out that when I went to save a 160MB file, that I only saved about 7 to 8 seconds of time compared to my 5 year old G4 (400MHz single processor) system. Mind you, they both had the same amount of RAM. That's when I remembered testing one of the machines at an Apple store a few months before I almost made that fatal decision to go PC. I saved a 250MB Photoshop file in about 9 seconds!!! Now, the new G5 that's out is the dual 2.5's. So that means the dual 2.0 machines are $500 less (now, $2,500.00). And if you're like me, and can take a couple of weeks to spend some dedicated time to finding a better price, you can actually save about a thousand or more buying it used. I did. I purchased a G5 dual 2.0GHz, 250MB HD, with 1.5GB of RAM and the extended Apple Care Warranty; the full three years was already included with the machine, for a total of $2,400.00. (...) I was a little scared, because I heard about some horror stories about people who got taken of there hard earn money not to get what they paid for. I even found out that the person who owned this G5 was only 115 miles away. So I picked it up myself. He even had it open so I could try it out first. (...)Then you will find out what the going rate is (and also know who the "scammers" are who are trying to take you for your money). Email as many people that seem to be reasonably priced and ask for three things that you have a right to know; 1) What there serial number is on the machine 2) Where they bought it along with the original receipt 3) Get the owners full name and then call Apple (800-275-2273), to get through to the Apple Care Dept. (from last I checked, ext. 3), verify if the G5 belongs to them and if it's still under warranty. Also, ask if there is an option to extend it to the full 3 years; you will have to pay an additional $249.00, but it's completely worth every penny. I know that I'm going off the "review" topic here, but I believe that it is just as important, because of the fact that these machines are not cheap, and they were not available to buy (because of backorder situations, even through Apple), and I know that people want to save as much as they can when purchasing this system (or one like it). But again, we're going back to the beginning of what I said; "you get what you pay for." Another thing to add about this G5, they designed this machine from the inside-out, not the other way around; like I see in some PC towers that are built. The way this system is cooled is simply incredible. I was just reading MaxiumPC's (Sept. '04) review on case towers that just came out, and still NOTHING can touch the way they built this tower. Please do yourself a favor, if you can, either go to an Apple Store, CompUSA, Best Buy to physically try out a 1.8, 2.0, 2.5GHz G5 yourself, or check out there website (www.apple.com). You'll get more information than I can give here in this review. Again, I want to let everyone know (who reads this), that if I sound bias at all, I'm not, I REALLY was about to switch over to a PC; even my close friends were shocked when I said it to them. I actually felt humbled at one point saying that statement. But I'm glad I didn't make that mistake. If you're looking for a workhorse, this is the machine for you; and I'm ONLY talking to GRAPHIC DESIGNERS, VIDEO PRODUCERS AND THE LIKE; NOT to those who play video games on these machines. If you're looking for a gaming machine, then buy a PC. You'll have more to choose from, with thousands of games and more options to making your PC work better with faster framerates by overclocking the processor and graphics card, (only if you're into that kind of stuff and that you know what you're doing - only if - you overclock your PC).
(...) If you do your homework on this, (Graphic Designers - G5 Mac and PC Gamers - OverdrivePC) in the end, it will be worth it! I hope I've been helpful and good fortune to all who read this.

CONS:
None that I know of. Except I would give it a 9 (out of 10) for ease of use, because I was very acclimated to using OS9. OSX takes a day or two of adjusting, but it is a far better operating system to use in the end.

After 15 years of PCs, I got a Powerbook last year and fell deeply in love with it. Then decided to get the dual G5. At work, we had just bought all the software developers PCs 8 months before and the bloody HELL we went through when we had to take them from 1GB to 2 of RAM was insane. Since getting my G5, I've gone up to 3 GBs of RAM. Having the room to go to 8 is wonderful. I have NOTHING bad to say about this machine, it's the best setup I've ever used, and I have a database loaded on it, doing Java development, and using Final Cut Express and iTunes, etc. I would like to make a few points though.

Price: I see NO reason to believe that the price point on this is high at all. I would have paid the same price for a PC but it would have been in the trash in 18 months. With the memory capacity on this machine, I should be able to keep this at least 2x as long if not more. Also, Apple machines hold their value. Go look on eBay for old Powerbooks. It's insane, they are selling for a couple hundred less than new ones.

The quietness of this machine is a HUGE bene. For years, I have sat by as my PCs got louder and louder, and the suppliers struggled with more and more fans. Major points for the job done there.

Connectivity is superb. And Panther is a joy, no question the best OS I've ever used.

Apple's ad campaign about switching is kind of comical. Would be like showing Cool Hand Luke eating a steak dinner and saying he switched from raw eggs. This is the best ticket to a Mickeysoft jailbreak on the planet. Amazing how many developers seem to be hopping aboard. There's a reason this was picked tops for technical excellence by PC Mag.

A reviewer pointed to a review on MacWorld, comparing the G5 to an Athlon Fx-51, and Pentium 4 EE, with the G5 losing the comparison...... I also found a review on PC Mag's website, comparing the dual 2ghz G5 to a Dell Precision 650, dual 3.06ghz Pentium Xeon machine, and the Mac held it's own, and even bested the Intel box in some tests, even with a 50% slower 2ghz clock speed. Also remember that the G5 is using most applications in 32-bit mode, as most applications have not yet been compiled to take advantage of the 64-bit G5. I currently have both types of systems, several Windows 2000 PC's, and a new ibook G4. Personally, I'm totally fed up with seeing the "blue screen of death", to the point of using Linux at home for the past 6 years. Windows 2000 and XP are alot better than the older versions, but I still have funky problems with Windows on occasion. No problems at all yet with Mac OSX. Just my 2 cents....

I've been using this perfect machine since late November '03 for film-quality motion graphics and huge layered Photoshop files and I'm in love.

I really cannot understand a negative review of this G5.
I just don't get it.

I've been a design professional for a dozen years and Apple's technology has made my career fun again.
Period.

The guy who is obviously dumping on Apple and the G5 to get his jollies needs to go elsewhere. I'm quite sure he knows nothing about Macs or Apple. The hardware on this Mac blows Intel out of the water and it's OS blows XP away. Early reviews before the latest version of OS X called "Panther" showed slower results than the new version of the OS which is designed for the G5 and is much faster. For the guy who gave it one star because it doesn't run Virtual PC all I can say is Puh-lease. First of all that is no reason to give it one star plus it is not true that the G5 can only run one OS it can also run multiple versions of Linux. Finally there IS a new version of Virtual PC coming out soon that will run on the G5.

I've been a PC user since the good old days of the soldering iron, my last mac was an old powerbook running OS 6 or 7, either way - it was a long time ago. The main thing thats been keeping me from getting a Mac was price, and I must say - it's getting a lot better. I bought the dual 2.0Ghz configuration from the apple store along with the new 20" LCD (that still hasn't shipped ~_~) and it rocks. The biggest problem people have mentioned on the various reviews is the 64mb card - if it means that much to you, go to the Apple Store on their site and configure your own system with a 9800 or an x800 or a different 9600 if you'd like. I got a 9800 personally. I don't understand how anyone can claim a PC runs faster than this, perhaps with video games but for standard use (this coming from a person to whome standard refers to compiling java) its much better.

The G5 is meant to be "the professional's machine" for graphics and video. After you get past the "platform war reviews" on this list and look at the unit and what it can do, it does all it claims and more. Mac has and I hope always will dominate the digital video, audio and graphics markets. Anyone who cannot get this machine up and running out of the box in a few minutes, should probably invest in a toaster; because its obvious you were not meant to use a computer. The latest OS, Panther is sleek easy to use and pretty much runs the machine for you. Its also the only unix based OS on the market with a GUI. Which means that you can slip into terminal mode and run lines of code, while doing several other, heavy duty tasks in the background; that's background tasks that would bring any PC to its knees. By the way, Panther is the only system on the market that truly takes advantage of multi processors built into these boxes.

No matter what the semi pro's and novice users, who are loyal to PC's post, this machine simply blows any windows based/intel system out of the water. I have used every machine available for 25 + years as a film and video editor, (the toughest job for any machine) and Mac is the king of the hill for power, ease of use and reliable service.. for the pro user PERIOD. Anyone who claims to work in a pro graphics shop that is PC based, really does not work in a pro shop; because there are no truly pro graphics shops that are PC based.

The price is as always a bit higher on a Mac, because you get what you pay for. If you are not a professional computer user, get a PC and you will be happy. If you are a professional that needs the fastest machines available, as well as the most reliable machines on the market, you need a Mac G5.

From having read all of the reviews and my experience as an owner of a dual 2ghz G5 and a custom built, XP Pro pentium 2.6ghz overclocked to 3.2ghz. This is what I have to add.

For a long time, I used only PCs. Then about a year ago, I grew fed-up with the idiosyncracies and virus problems, that consumed huge amounts of my time. Another factor was how loud PCs are.

Also, I was enticed by Apples applications such as Final Cut Pro, Logic, DVD Studio Pro. They are first-rate, and offer some of the best features. I do a lot of graphics and video related work so this is significant.

As for other reviewers gripes about Apple marketing, I agree. Many of the adds are misleading and overblown. The marketing on it is a lot of hype that is aimed at less computer savvy users. But that is just marketing.

The actual product is very well made. There is an attention to detail, in the design, function and integration, that is unrivalled by any PC manufacturer. You do pay slightly more, but the return was worth it for me, and I am frugal.

In Summary. The G5 is pretty quiet compared to the PC. In terms of functionality, it was ready to use out of the box, unlike the PC, which requires a more extensive knowledge to get similar performance. Speed wise, it is faster than my XP P4, for rendering and compositing graphics applications. Both systems are pretty realiable. However, I do experience lock-ups and crashes occasionally on both systems.

Final recommendations, in the end, it depends on how much you use a computer, and what you use it for. For the gamer/custom builder enthusiast, PCs are still the only game in town. For graphics artists, multimeda, internet oriented users and those concerned about ease of use, I would say Apple is a better deal, and the current G5s are competitive in performance to the best PCs.

Another thing that was not mentioned by any of the other reviewers is that OS X is completely compatible with Windows in terms of file transfer. This was not the case with OS 9. As a result, you can take word files, excel, powerpoint, windows media, just about any file type and transfer it to and from your PC and Mac without any problems.

As for the negative reviews, one reviewer accused all of the negative reviews coming from a disgruntled single user, as there are two reviews with the same reviewer name. However, a positive review, with that same user name was also posted, and that person mentioned that he was unable to change the user name.

So it seems that the system defaulted to "PC enthusiast" for the user name. In which, case there is more than one person with a negative review. But hey, of those, one person gave it a bad review because a third party vendor's software didn't work on the computer. That has nothing to do with Apple or the G5. Another negative review was based upon apples overblown marketing, and not the performance or craftsmanship of the computer, which leaves one negative review due to faulty customer service. If I saw more similar experiences, I would be concerned.