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Apple Mac mini MB464LL/A Desktop

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So I got one of these little bad boys (the cheaper model) from the apple store the day after they came out. With a student discount it came out to be just under $600 after tax, so I figured why wait for it to be available on amazon for the same price.

I just ordered 4GB of ram for around $65 after tax and shipping. Just read on a few forums that once you put another gig of ram into the new lower end mac mini, the NVIDIA 9400M graphics card automatically allocates another 128MB of VRAM, making it have a total of 256MB VRAM (instead of 128MB in which it is originally configured with)!

For another $90 or so you can plop a 320GB 7200RPM hard drive into it. A faster drive then the higher end model comes with.

This makes it virtually pointless to pay another $200 for the $800 model, when you can pay a total of $760 for a model that is better:

- 4GBs of ram vs 2GB
- 320GB 7200RPM hard drive vs 320GB 5400RPM hard drive
- with the same NVIDIA 9400M 256VRAM

So whats the only draw back? You have to pop the baby open and install the ram and hard drive yourself.

Is that so bad? Not at all for me, but it may be for some. However there are already forums that contain detailed instructions with pictures and videos for doing so, and as long as you can follow instructions it should not be too difficult at all. It is also somewhat less difficult to deal with than previous models, in terms of installing ram and hard drive.

Oh, I forgot to mention that you can (at the moment, 3/9/09) also get a $6 rebate for sending the 1GB ram chip from your stock mac mini to OWC if you are planning to buy the 2x2GB modular set from them. Another good buy is a $30 USB2 sata enclosure to plop that extra 120GB hard drive into for a little extra storage.

Hope this helps in you purchasing decision.

Oh forgot to mention the computer itself. I upgraded from a 1.42 DP Powermac G4 (FW800) to give you a perspective. First off it is much, much quieter and runs very cool. I have now left it on for 3 days straight and it is still cool. Leaving it on all night while processing video and other processes no longer keeps me up due to the absence of loud oscillating fans. I also like the idea that it uses very low power for a desktop, since I'll keep it on most of the time.

The main reasons for jumping to the mac mini bandwagon for me was because of its FW800 and better video card (two things you will never be able to upgrade on a mac mini without swapping out the entire logic board, which is basically a new computer anyway).

Although it has FW800, I was a little leery to make the upgrade from my Powermac G4 because I have an external 16x DVD burner that uses FW400, an external hard drive with FW400, and a RAID drive with FW800. All of which I wanted to use with my mac mini.

Due to its only 1 FW800 port, I was left to speculate whether daisy chaining all of my external drives together via one FW800 port would actually work properly and efficiently. (FW400 HD to FW400 DVD-R to FW800 RAID HD to one Mac mini FW800 port?).

Seems like a stretch, but all the drives have their own power source, and I am not going to use the FW400 HD much, so I figured what the heck, if it didn't work, I'd have to shell out the extra cash to update my external drives to USB 2 if I wanted to keep the same configuration I'd been using for years.

Anyway to get to the point... It works! I can burn a DVD at 16x from the external burner with media from the RAID drive while watching video, editing photos, and swapping files all from the RAID drive in which the burner is daisy chained to with no hiccups. (Don't know that my old G4 would have been happy with this set up, but it had 2 FW400 ports along with a FW800, so I needn't try.)

For those of you I have lost... this means that the new mac mini is a solid performer and although it has less expandability than my previous mac (less ports, no PCI expansion slots, no upgradeable video cards and processors), it still gets the job done at a faster rate and at a lesser price than upgrades.

So far it has saved me processing time, space, and the utter sound of a power hungry loud fanned G4 buzzing in my ear!

One more thing. I use "PC only" software for work, so having a mac that can boot up in windows was a definite plus for me, and another large factor in my upgrading/buying decision.

Yet another great addition is dual display support for those of you who want to hook up a couple displays at once. And to comment on another review, the mac mini does support a VGA monitor (or 2!), you just have to pay an additional $20 for the adapter from apple (as it only comes with a Mini-DVI to DVI Adapter in the box). And although the quality is going to be better with a DVI monitor, you may want to hold onto your VGA until it poops out (especially if you are low on cash like me) because by that time DVI monitors will be even cheaper and better in quality. Just a thought! (Not to mention the difficulty and expense to recycle those old VGA's).


Update - April 12, 2009

Mac Mini is still great, I am just updating this review due to an important issue that was brought up by another reviewer in regards to upgrading Mac Minis.

Mac Minis have no user-serviceable parts inside according to apple, so upgrading it yourself may void the warranty. I did a little research on apple forums before I opened mine and found that the general consensus is if you break something, you void your warranty. If you don't break anything, it should not void your warranty, but ultimately depends on the apple authorized retailer's decision. If they can find that the defect was possibly caused from you opening it up, they may not uphold your warranty. For me the risk was worth it, as I have been working on macs for years, but definitely take this into consideration when installing yourself. I still recommend buying the low-end model as you can always upgrade it later if/when you want. If you are uneasy about upgrading yourself, you can always buy a larger hard drive and/or ram from OWC or another third party and have an authorized apple retailer install it for you. This will still save you a considerable amount of money and protect your warranty, as a money saving hassle free solution.

I would not like to be responsible in any way for people accidentally screwing up while installing their own ram/hard drive and possibly voiding their warranty. Sorry for not mentioning this issue previously in my review.

Just purchased am already very happy with the decision. This was a replacement system that I purchased for my wife - I am the home tech support resource and I was tired of constantly having to keep her system patched, updated and rebuilt (from XP to Vista SP1) in order to fight off ad/malware that was constantly infecting it.

Even though the hardware spec's for the Mini are lighter than the Vista system that it replaced, it is much snappier in browsing and using the included applications as compared to the Vista equivalents. One correction to the displayed specs on Amazon - the included adapter is a mini-DVI to full DVI adapter, not a DVI/VGA adapter as listed. If your old monitor does not support DVI, you will need to get a new monitor that supports it. Considering the graphics focus of Mac systems, this is a worthwhile investment in any case if you have an old VGA only monitor - the graphics will really "pop" when you convert to DVI.

Update will follow in a few weeks once I have the wife fully converted over to the new system.

This Mac mini builds on the success of the last one. The biggest upgrade to the machine is the new graphics. With this change, movies and games perform much better.

Items of clarification: Currently the description on Amazon lists 4 USB ports, but there are actually five.

Also, the Mac mini no longer comes with an Apple Remote so if you're looking to use it as a media server, you may want to pick one of those up.

Our favorite upgrade in this new machine is the ability to handle more RAM. It can now address 4GB of RAM, and it is also DDR3 RAM so it performs much better.

Also, the upgrade to Firewire 800 allows for some very fast external drives if you're looking for increased storage.

We have a few hundred Mac minis performing as servers at macminicolo. According to our early benchmarks, this machine will be even better at for a server. No doubt this is due mainly to the faster, increased RAM.

I purchased this unit for $600 new from Amazon. I opened it up right out of the box and installed 4GB of ram and a 500GB hard drive. Those parts cost me $160 brand new. Now I have a machine with a 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo CPU, 4GB of DD3 1067MHz ram, 256MB discrete (the card is discrete, only the ram is shared unlike the previous model which had shared graphics as well) Nvidia graphics, Dual-Layer Superdrive and the fastest/latest Wifi and Bluetooth. For $760 and considering this is a Mac, this is a great deal all around. It is smoking fast and fast enough for everything but the heaviest audio and video editing workloads. I am a professional photographer using Adobe CS4 and running a 25.5" LCD monitor and it performs flawlessly and quickly. I see no need for a more expensive Mac unless, as I said, I were a professional video/sound editor who had an absolute need for a Mac Pro. An unqualified 5/5 stars.

I bought 4 of the minis, upgraded them myself (although I have never opened a computer in my life) to 4gb RAM and to 7200 RPM 320gb WD hard drives. Online video tutorials made it easy. I use a spatula with a 3 inch by 1.5 inch stainless steel blade and the minis open easily and quickly, without scratching. Be sure to use a magnetized phillips screwdriver when upgrading, the screws that hold the mini halves together are very small and hard to reach. Ram needs to be inserted with considerable force, most of the gold edge should not be in view or your machine will not recognize the new RAM.

I later added VM fusion, followed by Windows XP Professional sp3, then Microsoft Office 2007. Now these little guys can do almost anything. I also have a 2009 24 inch Imac and a late 2008 aluminum Macbook and these minis more than hold their own in comparison. I love that I can easily carry them from office to home if needed. Buy the new Mini Display to HDMI converter, and don't mess around with the bulky DVI adapters and cables unless there is no other choice.

I have since placed one of my minis under my T.V. and run the sound through an optical digital cable (tosk to mini tosk) to my surround sound system. I put a 500gb hard drive into this mini and placed all my movies and music on it. With my ipod remote I can now listen to music or watch movies from the couch. At work or at home, I highly recommend the 2009 Mac Mini.

I am moving from an older (see previous reviews) Mac Mini to this one.

I decided to make the move for the new video card - NVIDIA (the old video was shared Intel), the new DDR3 RAM (old one DDR2) and the faster front side bus 1066 Mhz (old one was 667Mhz).

I maxed out the RAM at 4 GB - which automatically maxes out the shared video to 256 MB Video RAM.

NOTE: you don't have to buy the larger hard drive Mac Mini to get the 256 MB Video, just max out the RAM!

I admit, I thought that moving to this Mini from my old Mini might be a waste of money...the specs weren't 'that' different...

I couldn't have been more wrong. The difference is NIGHT and DAY.

The video is clearer...the applications snap open faster...seriously, the difference from my old Mini to the new Mac Mini is night and day.

I am using the Mac Mini in an entertainment system - my 'monitor' is a Panasonic 42" plasma - which the video card immediately recognized. (With the old Mini and the Intel card I had to manually 'tweak' the screen to get it to fit).

I was up and running in 5 minutes...

I am mostly using the Mac Mini for entertainment - 650 GB of Audio / Video. That said, I do use the Mini for Photo (50 GB of the 650), and the occasional making of a DVD.

I paired the Mac Mini with an external CalDigit VR 2TB drive - connected via Firewire 800. I then 'pointed' all of the 'i' apps Mac Mini (iTunes, iPhoto, iDVD) to look there for files.

And, so far so good!

Quick comparison of speed - using the same settings in a certain program to rip the same DVD -

Old Mac Mini - 4 hours

New Mac Mini - 1.2 hours

One word - Amazing!

I would, without hesitation, recommend the new Mac Mini to anyone - if you were holding off for the latest Mac Mini - this is it!!

This is my second Mini--my first was an early 2006 Mini w. I've been using the new Mini for a couple of weeks now, and couldn't be happier. While my first Mini was mostly whisper-quiet, this one is silent. The graphics capability are finally good with this new version, and I don't think it would be an exaggeration to call it a very stable little workhorse. I couldn't be happier, and I make my living in front of computers. I did get the lower end model--the $599 mini--but I also had Apple upgrade the RAM/memory to 4 G. I do not believe that the stock 1 gig is enough, although I can't compare it because I don't have the two configurations side by side.

I use an external firewire hard drive, so the smaller HD on the cheaper Mini was no problem. If you have a Firewire 400 external HD, you will need to get a 1394B 6 PIN TO 9 PIN Cable in order to connect it to the firewire 800 port on the new mini. I got one that works great from NewEgg for $3.99 plus shipping, although you can pay many times this much if you'd like (Link Depot Model 1394B-6-6P9P). I also got the miniDisplay Port-to-VGA cable converter from Apple, but am sending it back. VGA doesn't allow for the sharpness of text that I need (I work with InDesign and Photoshop as well as the usual word processing and web-based research software.)

I think you will be extremely happy with the lower end ($599) mini as long as you max out the RAM. I would not get any of the prior generation Minis that have Intel GMA 950 graphics even though you can find them for cheap--I had it on my original 2006 Mini and it was not adequate.

I have one of the 2008 model Mac Mini's (4GB ram, 80GB HD, 1.83GHz. C2D) and I love it, but it has some obvious flaws. The new 2009 Mac Mini is what it should have been all along and fixes almost every flaw that was in the 2008 model. First, you can upgrade it to 4GB RAM and it actually shows and works. It has 5 USB ports and firewire 800. All models come with a superdrive now and you can get much larger HD's in build to order. The biggest change however is the graphics. The 2008 model's graphics could barely keep up with the screen redraws. However, the new 2009 model has the Nvidia 9400m, which isn't a beast of a graphics card, but can run almost every game currently on the market at an acceptable rate and allows you to drive two monitors at the same time. One can be a 30" and the other can be up to a 24"(1920x1200). There is only one flaw left in the 2009 Mac Mini and I don't see Apple fixing it any time soon. There needs to be an option for a 7200 rpm drive. Now I upgraded mine to a 320GB Seagate 7200 rpm drive and it makes a large difference in load times and decreases stuttering in the OS in general. I love this little machine and Apple did right by it this time around. Great job Apple.

We bought the Mac Mini to use as a media center and as a replacement Mac to our old eMac family computer.

The Mini is connected to our 47" HDTV using an HDMI-to-DVI cable and the included miniDVI-to-DVI adapter. Analog audio is connected to our 5.1 home theater system. For internet access, it's connected through our home wireless-n (802.11n) network. The colors are rich and we enjoy 1920x1080 screen resolution.. No black borders, it's a full screen view.

We also bought the Apple bluetooth keyboard & mouse, to use comfortably over the couch.. I also configured iChat on the Mini to answer automatically to screen sharing calls from my MacBook. This way, I can have remote control over anything on the Mini.

We started digitizing many of our photos to load on iPhoto, iTunes hosted our mp3s, podcasts and video podcasts, and we use the built-in Front Row to view everything. We have downloaded many movies from the internet on an external USB hard disk that is also connected to the Mini.. Note: to have an external HD show up on Front Row, just create an alias and drop it in the Mini's Movies folder and Front Row will resolve it..

Additional Note: you'll need the little Apple remote control to navigate through Front Row.

This is beautiful hardware. Also very silent, it's practical to keep it always on. Works great for music and movies. An apple remote (not included) provides a handy way to control music/movie and even to put the computer to sleep or wake it up.

On the 1GB RAM version it is relatively easy to install additional RAM (I've added 2GB more).

Good connectivity. I would have wanted also an e-SATA connector, which it doesn't have.

For MacOS X development, this is the cheapest computer with MacOS. I also installed Linux in dual-boot mode, works nicely.