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Nothing Justifies Genocide. Nothing., March 28, 2010
This review is from: The Armenian Genocide - The Critically Acclaimed PBS Documentary by Emmy Award Winner Andrew Goldberg (DVD)
I have watched this documentary several times. What is striking to me, and what I specifically looked for in it, is corroboration of the Armenian Genocide by third parties, by definition, not Armenians and not Turks. We see quoted in this documentary confirmation from the Germans and the Americans (even the New York Times) at the time of the genocide that the genocide did indeed occur, that it was orchestrated at the highest levels of the "Young Turk" regime. This documentary does cover the history of Ottoman Armenian rebellion and separatist movement, and that those Armenians did kill Turks. But whatever debate you want to have about this rebellion, nothing justifies genocide.
Nothing justifies genocide. Nothing. It is documented fact that the Armenian genocide occurred as told by multiple foreign (ie, non-Armenian, non-Turkish) observers. There is no "other side", just like there is no "other side" rebutting the Jewish Holocaust, or for that matter the genocide practiced by the US Government in systematically destroying Native Americans. It happened. It is well documented.
Even if a few Armenian guerrillas were helping the Russians, even if the Ottoman Armenians had no legitimate claim to independence from the Ottoman empire, none of it justifies the Ottomans documented, systematic murder of 1,000,000 Armenian civilians or their stealing Armenian property from cleansed towns and villages.
What I don't understand is the bitter defensiveness of modern day Turks (ie, post 1923) for the war crimes committed by a Turkish regime that the new Turkish government repudiated back in 1923!
I say to the Turkish deniers on this site: why do you feel that you have to defend the Turks of an era repudiated by your own 1923 Turkish government itself? I don't get it. The Turks of 1915 are not you! You owe them no loyalty.
As an American citizen whose ancestors go back to the founding of America, I repudiate my own ancestors who were slave holders and who committed genocide against the Native Americans. I owe them no loyalty or defense. It's that simple. Those American settlers did not have to integrate themselves through genocide. You modern day Turks must do the same with respect to the crimes committed by your ancestors.
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Strong presentation of a genocide that happened before the word was coined, February 21, 2009
This review is from: The Armenian Genocide - The Critically Acclaimed PBS Documentary by Emmy Award Winner Andrew Goldberg (DVD)
I have no ties to either the Armenian or Turkish community.
This was an excellent film, but it shouldn't be the last stop in someone's investigation of the genocide that occurred in 1915. Rather, it's an excellent beginning, because it presents the issue comprehensively, and raises questions for further investigation.
The film does an outstanding job of portraying the human suffering caused by the genocide. Using photos from the time (some are quite graphic, be forewarned), plus written accounts (including from American diplomatic officials throughout the territory where the genocide occurred), it convincingly portrays the cruelty and barbarity perpetrated by the Ottoman Turks against the civilian population. Clearly, something horrible was perpetrated by the Ottoman government against approximately 1,000,000 ethnic Armenians, subjects of that Ottoman government.
It suffers slightly in trying to explain "why" it happened, and in convincing the viewer that the slaughter meets the modern-day definition of "genocide." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide)
I say it fails because it does not attempt to address any of modern-day Turkey's rebuttals to the accusations leveled against it by the world community. It does not address in any detail supposed collaboration by Armenians with Russian forces by the ethnic Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire (note, the Armenians were just a long-persecuted ethnic group member of the Empire -- 100's of thousands were killed by Ottomans in the late 1800's, as well), nor does it address Enver's insane, foolhardy campaign against Russia in the Caucasus earlier.
(Editorial comment: even IF a few Armenian guerillas were helping the Russians, does it give the Ottomans the right: 1.) to murder 1,000,000 civilians 2.) to kill elderly, women, and children with extreme brutality 3.) to steal Armenian property from cleansed towns and villages 4.) to engage in a systematic campaign of eliminating ethnic Armenians from Anatolia?)
It must be noted, the makers of the film gave the government of Turkey a chance to present its side of the story, but the Government chose not to participate. The footage in the film of the Turkish Ambassador to the U.S. before the U.S. Congress in 1990 is quite damaging to the Turkish case, as is a cold, heartless interview with an official Turkish historian, who notes that the drama of 1915 can cause someone to cry, but it has no significance beyond that.
It is also chilling to see what has happened to some Turks who have spoken out, and shared their belief that the Turkish government of that time did commit genocide.
(Note, in 1923, Ataturk became the dictator/leader of Turkey, and essentially created the modern-day Turkish state through control of the military and overpowering will -- an officially secular, modern state. Ataturk had some problematic issues, but he is truly a historical legend, and a major figure. From 1923, Turkey and its government bore little resemblence to the government of 1915 -- an empire in its death throes, governed by a weak Sultan, challenged by a radical, nationalist, and foolhardy triumvirate of "Young Turks." I think this is part of the reason why it's so hard for modern-day Turkey to admit to the genocide; the state today is radically different from the state of that time.
I'll also add some relativism: just as it's hard for us modern-day Americans to accept that "we" committed genocide against the Native American population of America, and such genocide would never occur in today's world, I believe that it is difficult for modern-day Turks to do the same, vis-a-vis the Armenian genocide.)
All in all, a quality film, and a worthy addition to the canon of work exploring the tragic events of 1915.
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