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Before the Horror: The Population of Hawaii on the Eve of Western Contact [Paperback]

David E. Stannard (Author)
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  • Paperback: 168 pages
  • Publisher: Univ of Hawaii Pr (March 1989)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0824812328
  • ISBN-13: 978-0824812324
  • Product Dimensions: 8.8 x 6 x 0.5 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.6 ounces
  • Average Customer Review: 3.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,340,215 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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4.0 out of 5 stars Very Interesting Perspective, but......, March 21, 2004
This review is from: Before the Horror: The Population of Hawaii on the Eve of Western Contact (Paperback)
Stannard makes an argument for the Pre-Western Contact (1778) Native Hawaiian population in Hawaii reaching up to 1 million. The current total (all ethnicities)population in Hawaii is 1.2 million in 2000. He makes many logical and common sense arguments that justify his conclusions. Unfortunately, he also makes some very weak arguments. He does has some critical appraisal of his own arguments. His utilization of Schmitt and Nordyke, who are demographic authorities in Hawaii, as guest authors was very smart. However, they both basically do not agree with him so he criticizes them (they lean closer to 300-400,000) in an unprofessional manner. His criticisms seem emotional and over the top to me, and I was surprised it was not edited. Although I am open to the fact that his estimates may be right, the book is lessened academically by his crude criticisms of known authorities on the subject. If he was trying to create controversy, then he succeeded. Still, it is an enlightening historical read on the subject and the "outbursts" gave me a few chuckles.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Ecological assessment versus "headcount", June 9, 2006
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There is no doubt that the population of the (now) Hawaiian Islands was greater prior to European contact than after 1778. Smallpox, measles, tuberculosis, venereal diseases and many other biological maladies wreaked havoc on the Hawaiian population. The question is, what exactly WAS the population before Captain Cook showed up? Official estimates of Hawaiian demographers, after careful review of eyewitness accounts and reading the journals of visitors to the islands over the next 50 years, resulted in an estimate of, on average, about 200,000.

David E. Stannard begs to disagree.

In Before the Horror: The Population of Hawaii on the Eve of Western Contact, Stannard goes through a very interesting exercise. He makes ecological predictions of population levels. Given, say, 600 years of population growth from the original colonists, what COULD the population be? He calculates it in three ways:

* simple population growth based on fertility and demographics,

* using a rough energetic model, what population COULD the islands support, and

* if the islands were "full," with the density based on productivity and eyewitness accounts, what might the population have been?

Stannard computes a very different figure: 800,000 to a million pre-contact souls.

He allows defenders of the 200,000 figure to critique his thesis. The critiques are very weak. "Oh yeah? Well what do you know?"

I found Stannard's logic very persuasive. But so what? Contact happened, and the Hawaiian population responded negatively.

Stannard's revised estimates are significant for at least two reasons. First, the "horror" was much, much worse than otherwise believed. The catastrophe was... catastrophic. Just think what would happen today with a 90% population reduction in 50 years.

Second (and this is my own thought), apart from the numbers themselves, the social upheaval must have been tremendous. Whole segments of society disappeared forever. I've always wondered why there are so very few references in Hawaiian lore, tradition, and petroglyphs to whales, for example. Did all the whale specialists in Hawaiian society die, along with their oral traditions? What else was lost?

If you are interested in Hawaii and Hawaiiana, then I encourage you to read Stannard's book.
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2.0 out of 5 stars "And Then There Were None...", May 4, 2010
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Dr. David E. Stannard has taken part of the topic penned by Alan Moorhead in "Fatal Impact" and analyzed specifically the impact that foreign contact had on the people and environment of the Hawaiian Islands. In spite of the thesis-spoken language of this book (indeed it is part of a larger scholarly work), any student of Hawaiian history would do well to wade through the information and conclusions that Dr. Stannard presents.

If Dr. Stannard is correct in his projections of population sizes in Hawaii, pre-Western contact, the accidental and purposeful introduction of foreign disease wrought destruction of a scale not comprehended by most students of Pacific history. A careful read of this work is warranted and a careful reflection of his data and analysis will give the reader a more significant appreciation of Hawaii's history.
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