Before The Quarrel [Explicit Lyrics, Import]

Cro-Mags | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (January 4, 2000)
• Original Release Date: January 4, 2000
• Number of Discs: 1
• Format: Explicit Lyrics, Import
• Label: Cro Mag Recordings
• ASIN: B00003TL7S
• Also Available in: Audio CD  |  MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 4.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #430,326 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Track Listings

1. World Peace

2. By Myself

3. Show You No Mercy

4. Malfunction

5. Hard Times

6. Sign Of The Times

7. Don't Tread On Me

8. Face The Facts

9. It's The Limit

10. Life Of My Own

11. Survival Of The Streets

12. Everybodys Gonna Die

13. Dub

Editorial Reviews

The Hardcore Website, February 2000

"If there is one album in the entire history of hardcore to own, this is it."

"This release is a must for the fans and also a nice introduction for those who have never heard of them." Joop

Product Description

Before The Quarrel by Cro-Mags

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Customer Reviews

Most Helpful Customer Reviews

16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars Great, but hardly revolutionary..., September 18, 2003

By 

Geoffrey G. Wardzinski "techaandrayco" (Washington, DC United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Before The Quarrel (Audio CD)

The previous reviewer is mistaken about a number of things. First, Hardcore evolved strictly from punk rock and it had nothing to do with metal. The combination of hardcore and metal was known as "crossover" or, more commonly, "speedmetal". Second, THIS CD started NOTHING; these recordings weren't even released until WAY after the fact. I believe that the record that the previous reviewer is referring to is "Age of Quarrel". This is NOT that record, rather it is the demos that were recorded before making that record. Third, while "Age of Quarrel" was a good record, it certainly didn't give birth to the NYHC scene, which was in existence YEARS before its release. Bands like Agnostic Front, Urban Waste and the Abused all made landmark NYHC records before the Cro-Mags. That being said, this is a great CD, and since "Age of Quarrel" has long been out of print, this is really your only chance to hear what the Cro-Mags sounded like before they devolved into a Krishna heavy metal band.

8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars some thoughts..., November 6, 2003

By A Customer

This review is from: Before The Quarrel (Audio CD)

This IS indeed the original Age of Quarrel. Back in 85 or 84 when i was a teenage skin, I bought a tape from John Joseph for $5 at CB's. It was labelled as Age of Quarrel (on cro-mag-non records) and this CD is of that very tape. I'm not sure if it was a demo or not but it certainly isn't the same stuff which would be released as the Age of Quarrel LP a few years later on Profile records.

I've always preferred the mixing on the tape as opposed to the LP, it had a much heavier thrash sound more reminiscent of how they sounded live rather than the metallic sound they grew into.

John Joseph's vocals are really intense on this as opposed to the LP where he seems muddled underneath all the guitar work.

(btw, as far as the dispute over who started speedmetal. it was Leeway. it was all their fault. they had their "enforcer" demo tape circulating throughtout New York back in 1983 i believe. blame them)

4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Thanks for clarifying, December 5, 2003

By A Customer

This review is from: Before The Quarrel (Audio CD)

I bought the original tape and like many other fans in NYC was not happy with the mixing on the record. I am so pleased that this is now on CD.
I went to school with a couple of the band-members and it was explained to me that this was NOT a demo and was supposed to be their first album but either they didn't have the money to press the album, or the recording levels were not right for the record. Either way its the best of their stuff. and in my opinion the best to come out of NY/HC. Better executed than Agnostic Front's Victim in Pain with a more scope intellectually (I know its a bad word in Hardcore but f*ck its 20 years later man) Its not just songs just about "the street." or reactionary political statements in favor of or against the long-gone Reagan Administration (I love "World Peace")
I'd like to point out that Macky who was the drummer on these recordings but not pictured on the CD cover was also the best and most talented HC drummer to play at CBs and in the NY scene.