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Beginning of All Things to End

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Mudvayne is my favorite group. Not a day goes by when I don't listen to my L.D. 50 cd. But I had no idea that Mudvayne had an old album. When I found out, I immediatley bought it. Originally, I did not think it would be that great... But I was surprised to see that this album rocked. Every song is good. BUT... the reason for 4 stars is that the remixes of Dig blow. But all of the original tracks are awesome, and the L.D. 50 track that is all of the interludes put together in one track, is quite cool. But don't get me wrong. This album is not nearly as good as L.D. 50. I am only saying that it is cool, [inexpensive], and not nearly as bad as everyone says it is. If you are a fan of Mudvayne, then pick it up....

This album is downright amazing! Raw, heavy and unpredictable! Just listen to Chads scream in "Poop Loser" and you'll be so pumped up for what's about to come! The breakdowns are really kick-@ss and musically Ryan, Matt and Greg are already coming into their own! Chad already attains his signature style of singing and screaming, "Cultivate" will show you... This just proves why Mudvayne is just about the most talented band in the world and not forgetting Tool and A Perfect Circle! This record is like Tools Opiate if you Tool fans know what I mean... I think that Tool and MuDvAyNe are the best bands in the world and if you pay close attention to detail you'll see that there are vast similarities between the two! The remixes are poor though but I don't pay much attention to them! Still no reason to give it a lesser rating and not to get the album, it's MuDvAyNe man! Lyrically this is what we come to expect from this phenomenal band! I absolutely love this album! 3 words: A MUST GET!

Originally released back in 1997 as "Kill I Oughtta," Mudvayne's debut was re-released in 2001 as "The Beginning Of All Things To End" (which cleverly connects with the title of their 2002 album) with a few extras tacked on the end. It's always fun to hear the earliest music possible from established musicians, and Mudvayne's debut is no exception. The big surprise is that it actually turns out to be a bit better than their later efforts (not to slight them in anyway). Despite the fact that the line-up is missing Ryan on bass, their signature sound is established pretty early with this effort.

"Poop Loser" -- yeah, you heard me -- opens the album up on a somewhat awkward note, but soon after, "Seed" picks this album up and keeps running. The best cuts from here would be "I.D.I.O.T." and "Cultivate," which are just as good as anything off of their official debut album, "LD 5.0." The music on "Kill I Oughtta" is simply streamlined Mudvayne. If you want to hear the band just rock out without too much dramatics or showing off, this is where you want to be. The bonus tracks include not only two remixes of "Dig," but a track titled "LD 5.0" which weaves all the interludes from that album into one song. Definitely an interesting listen. The remixes themselves are actually quite impressive. Both are done by Rhys Fulber (Front Line Assembly, Fear Factory) and are actually listenable, even to the most discriminating ear.

So, aside from it's production values and moderate sound quality, "Kill I Oughtta" is among Mudvayne's best work. Any serious fan should own this, even if they aren't a completist. There isn't much else to say about this release. The music just speaks for itself.

This was origianly an EP called Kill I Ouughta but was renamed and a few tracks were added. This is not the Mudvayne that many of us know and love but a much rawer and less technical version of Mudvayne with lyrics a little bit eaisier to understand. Track-by-track review:
Poop Loser-The intro of the album, starts with a baby then moves onto the chant.
Seed-My favorite song on the album, a song primarily about parents getting divorsed.
Some Assembly Required-Second favorite track, much heavier than Seed.
I.D.I.O.T.-Somewhat like "Internal Primates Forever" from L.D.50, not a bad track.
Central Disposal-I actually think this song is live.
Coal(live)-Really cool live song. It would have been cool if it had the recorded version too.
Fear(live)-Again I wished they had th recorded version too, but that's okay because this is a really good song.
Dig Future Evolution Remix-Alright it's really hard to replace Ryan and Matt's instrumental rythm with techno beats.
Dig Everything and Nothing Remix-A little better than Future Evolutionbut still not the same.
L.D.50-This isn't really a new song but all the interludes from L.D.50 all combinied into one song. I'm not a fan of the interludes off L.D.50 but this is actually a tolerable track.
Buy this album if you are a big fan of Mudvayne not if you are just getting into them but this is a pretty good song.

Sure it might not be like L.D. 50, TEOATTC, or Lost & Found. But Mudvayne did tremendous work with this masterpiece! But to tell you the truth, I found this album to be much more heavier then L.D. even if Ryan wasn't envolved back then. Even though, this great album was supposed to be released in 1997, but who cares, Kill I Ougtha or whatever you pronounce it is a must have for Mudvayne fans! But now, its called TBOATTE now with its released in 2001 & it rocks, you guys won't be disappointed, especially hardcore Mudvayne heads! I have all 4 of their albums, & I'll be glad if they'll make a 5th album soon in 2007!

the first thing i have to say is that Cultivate is an awesome song. the second thing is, these guys didnt really makes their sound what it was until they met a major record company. but for the first cd they made... this is pretty good in my book.

Much as I love Mudvayne, I was slightly disappointed with this cd. After buying, listening to and loving L.D. 50, when this was released I thought "Ah why not."
There are 3 or 4 good songs on here, notably 'Seed' and 'Cultivate', but these are let down by the pointless remixes of 'Dig' and the over-long, and frankly boring interlude.
The emotions that Kud is trying to express are pretty clear, especially on 'Poop Loser' which on the first couple of listens can be quite disturbing.
It is evident on listening to this that it was self released in it's original state, 'Kill I Oughta', as the production has a raw quality to it. The live tracks show the talent that Mudvayne posess, and it is easy to see how the sound they have here progressed to form the basis for L.D. 50.
The thing this cd has against it is that most people who buy it will have done so AFTER hearing L.D. 50 and will expect more of the same. This is a very different release to L.D 50 and on it's own merit would stand up as a good example of what this band are capable of. However, because L.D. 50 is so good, it leads to high expectations which can cause a slight sense of disappointment. Overall though, despite this, it's a pretty fine cd and worthy of spending your hard - earned dosh on.

I really enjoyed my friends copy of LD5O,and the store didnt have it so I got this one,and it was even BETTER,good tracks too, including great remixes of the songs, Dig, and LD5O.
Get this CD today! Also pick up copys of LD5O,and The end of all things to come!

If youre a mudvayne fan, then you should buy this cd. Although its obviously an underproduced album with an unclean raw sound, its still got 8 good songs, good as long as you like mudvayne anyway. If youre looking for something that flows smoothly, buy either LD 50 or The End of All Things to Come. But if you wanna experience the beginging of mudvayne, then this is a must have.

Ok, this is not L.D. 50, if thats what your looking for, go elsewhere. But this cd still rules, its really heavy and really good. The last 3 songs are kinda crappy, but the rest of the songs are great. I had never heard 'Kill I Oughta' before, so this cd was all new for me and it serves up as a great hold over album untill their next album coming out pretty soon (Im writing this review in October of 2002). So this a great album except for the last couple songs.