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3.0 out of 5 stars
Good but some issues, March 7, 2006
This review is from: Beginning Shell Scripting (Programmer to Programmer) (Paperback)
The claims that the author gives equal scripting time to each OS and all shells is very misleading. The author hates Windows and never misses a chance to let you know this - I wish the author had left the personal views and OS politics out ... or just not covered Windows at all. (Which by the way isn't covered at all - other than the Cygwin program and why the author hates Windows so much.) This book uses the BASH shell almost exclusively with some "oh yea, this syntax won't work on the C Shell" thrown in. the Korn & Z Shells are treated like they don't even exist - and BASH is always the only way to go. The book at about Chapter 3 becomes more of a "look what i can do" and "here write this out in a text editor and save the file as this", without much explaInation as to why it happens that way and what the syntax introduced means. With some syntax being introduced in a script and never being explained or referenced at all. The terms the Author uses are as technical as you can get (like Palindromic Scripting" instead of saying a number reads the same forward and backwards (ex. 15851) or even symmetrical would have been a better term for a newbie. Luckily i know what Palindromic numbers are. Not a good book for Newbies ... too much un-explained out of nowhere syntax - related in the most technical terms the Author could find. It reads more like a technical manual on something ... not a how to learn from the ground up book. Your just as well off reading the MAN pages.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
Seems More of Disorganized Showing Off, July 7, 2007
This review is from: Beginning Shell Scripting (Programmer to Programmer) (Paperback)
This book seems to want to introduce all and everything under the sun, as as such, the book looses focus quite a bit. For example, the in the beginning the author introduces samples of python, perl, and tcl, talks about batch, and then introduces a variety of text editors for all platforms. Later in the next chapter, we learn how to launch a music player and then echo out text, and then how to setup variable in bourne shell, and the c shell. I am grateful for his enthusiasm on the topic, but feels like I'm on a roller coaster ride of scrambled ideas related to shell scripting. In looking forward to the chapter "Scripting with Files", I see some minor notes on chmod and file test conditionals for files. I don't see more advance topics like using find or stat or related topics, and instead we are presented with a conversation on Next file systems, Mac OS X file systems (UFS and HFS+). And on those topics, we get "gee that's neat to know" trivia, but it's totally useless, as there nothing on Mac specific commands like ditto or setfile to handle the Mac flavor of Unix. On one topic on "Controlling Processes", the author explains the concept of processes and shows a screen shot of a Windows Task Manager. I was thinking, that well, maybe this book offers something different by showing how to script with Windows specific commands, like tasklist, but nope, we only get the screen shot, and following discussion on ps command and the /proc directory on Linux. Overall, the book offers a lot of trivia on a variety of topics, and in some places there may be some scripts -- if you are lucky -- relating to the topic, and interspersed chaotically is some introduction material on shell scripting, sometimes bourne, sometimes c shell, sometimes something different. If this type of style works for you, then this might be the book, but I think for most of us, we'll want to follow more focused organized books relating to shell scripting (and of a particular scripting language, e.g. POSIX shell or other shell language).
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10 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Nice way to get started with shell scripting..., May 15, 2005
This review is from: Beginning Shell Scripting (Programmer to Programmer) (Paperback)
Shell scripting is one of those things I keep telling myself I need to learn but never quite get around to it. The Wrox book Beginning Shell Scripting by Eric Foster-Johnson, John C. Welsh, and Micah Anderson might be the book I end up using to get me there. Chapter List: Introducing Shells; Introducing Shell Scripts; Controlling How Scripts Run; Interacting With The Environment; Scripting With Files; Processing Text with sed; Processing Text with awk; Creating Command Pipelines; Controlling Processes; Shell Scripting Functions; Debugging Shell Scripts; Graphing Data With MRTG; Scripting For Administrators; Scripting For The Desktop; Answers To Exercises; Useful Commands; Index This book has something for just about every beginning user. As a "Beginning" Wrox book, it's meant to take you from no knowledge to basic competency. Normally when you think of shell scripts, you think Unix. But this book goes beyond that. The authors include just about every OS in their coverage. Unix and Linux users are obviously taken care of, as I'd expect. But they also address Mac OS X users so that they can start to delve under the covers of their operating system. They even include Windows users by having them download the Cygwin software. Overall, the focus is on the Bourne shell, but special features of the others (like C, bash, and Korn) are also addressed as they come up. Overall, you get coverage on just about everything you could want as a beginner. With the combination of "Try It Out" and "How It Works" examples in the book, beginners should quickly be able to do something with their new knowledge. To me, that's always the sign of a good beginning level book on a subject... get the reader doing something productive quickly. Beginning Shell Scripting meets that criteria.
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