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Beyond the Edge of the Sea: Sailing with Jason and the Argonauts, Ulysses, the Vikings, and Other Explorers of the Ancient World (Modern Library Paperbacks)
 
 
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Beyond the Edge of the Sea: Sailing with Jason and the Argonauts, Ulysses, the Vikings, and Other Explorers of the Ancient World (Modern Library Paperbacks) [Paperback]

Mauricio Obregon (Author)
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Modern Library Paperbacks February 12, 2002
The story of Jason and the Argonauts and Homer’s tales of Ulysses are among the greatest ancient epics, but are they merely nautical legends or true stories?

Mauricio Obregón has combed through classical texts, focusing on the smallest details, and with his intimate knowledge of historical navigation, brilliantly reenacts the voyages the ancient heroes actually traveled. Using the clues embedded in these epic tales, Obregón deftly argues that many of the legends are not merely fiction, but are, quite possibly, true adventures.

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An experienced sailor, Obreg?n (who before his death in 1998 was a member of Harvard's board of overseers) succeeded in his lifelong attempt to replicate, in detail, the journeys of some of the most daring, famous, even mythic voyagers and seafaring peoples of the past, including the Argonauts' expedition in search of the Golden Fleece, Odysseus' 10-year journey home after the Trojan War, the Vikings' visits to North America, the Muslims' voyages to the east and Polynesians' exploration of the Pacific. He based his voyages on geographical, meteorological and celestial information available in ancient accounts such as the Icelandic sagas. As he recounts what it was like to re-create these ancient itineraries, Obreg?n comments not only on how the risks those sailors took opened up the world, but also on the types of ships and rigging they used, details of their navigational techniques and insight into their sophisticated understanding of the complexities of the varying winds coming from all four points of the globe. The book, although not scholarly (there are no footnotes and only a minimal bibliography), will appeal to professional historians precisely because Obreg?n's conclusions, for the most part reasonable, are based on his own considerable experience traveling on the same, largely immutable waters as his subjects. (Jan.) Forecast: In addition to those professional historians, the book , which exudes an almost bewitching charm, lends itslef to a wider readership interested in seafaring and its lore. With 47 carefully selected illustrations, this title will make an excellent gift for anyone eager to be entertained by tales of adventure and romance from the distant past.
Copyright 2000 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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Obregon takes his reader on a maritime adventure through time, imagining the great explorers and their journeys, from Jason and the Argonauts to early Polynesians to Odysseus and the Vikings. Sweeping in scope, this slim text touches on every aspect of ancient travel by water, offering brief lessons in astronomy, cartography, oceanography, and carpentry. Some of Obregon's attempts to draw connections between extremely diverse and distant cultures through their ocean-faring ways are quite strained, but this book offers several surprisingly provocative and plausible conclusions. Could the Polynesians have traveled to South America? Perhaps, Obregon argues, if they chose to follow extraordinary winds, rather than prevailing ones. The choppy narrative is bound to make some readers figuratively seasick, but many will want to hang on for the ride, as the fascinating history of the sea, its mythic and historical figures, and the boats that changed the world are brought into a fresh and interesting perspective. Dozens of illustrations provide helpful information for the nautically challenged. John Green
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Product Details

  • Paperback: 144 pages
  • Publisher: Modern Library; First Edition edition (February 12, 2002)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 067978344X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0679783442
  • Product Dimensions: 5.5 x 0.3 x 8.5 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 4.3 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (5 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,908,417 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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5.0 out of 5 stars A Fascinating Look at Ancient Exploration, January 24, 2001
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The author takes ancient texts, religions, and stories and turns them into factual accounts of the sea-faring adventures of Greeks, Polynesians, Muslims, and Norsemen. Among the four groups, most of the world was explored in ancient times. The observations are based on the author's real-life experiences of retracing these routes, often by sea and otherwise by air. The book succinctly captures enormous amounts of perspective in just a few pages and with many stunning illustrations. I have read no book that is its equal for making the ancient world real to us today.

"At sea there are no atheists . . . ." Ambassador Obregon, who is now deceased, looks at religious beliefs for clues about the voyages. Ancient peoples often calculated their locations by where they were compared to the constellations overhead. They saw the gods in these constellations, which made them doubly meaningful.

He goes on to show the prevailing winds in the major parts of the world. Since much travel was by sail, these winds had a heavy influence on what routes were chosen.

From there, he draws on whatever available evidence there is to answer questions like:

How did the Argonauts get home?

Where did Homer write the Odyssey?

Are the 'Indians' of South America descendants of the Polynesians?

Although the answers can be considered to be no more than hypotheses, they represent ideas that certainly help rule out some of the alternative explanations. If you are like me, it greatly adds to your appreciation of these ancient stories and peoples to see where they may have gone on a map, and to learn what the practical problems were that they probably encountered on these trips. I would otherwise not have realized that the Danube could be traversed by heavy boat with minimal portages.

The hypothesis about the Polynesians is especially interesting. Since they were relying on sail for much of their travel, he suggests that they may have waited for winds to blow that countered the usual direction of the trades. This meant reducing the risk of going into an ocean of unknown length, because when the trade winds did return they would push one safely home.

His perspective on all of this in the epilogue is quite interesting. "Between [the Greeks and the Polynesians] . . ., they explored more than half [the earth's'] circumference, yet they never met." "The Muslims . . . never ventured into the [Atlantic or Pacific]." But these travels were important, because they laid the foundation for the rediscovery of ancient knowledge that became the Renaissance.

The book is filled with little tidbits that would make a whole book for any other author. I particularly loved his explanation of how Eratosthenes of Syene (today's Aswan) came close to correctly calculating the earth's circumference in ancient times by measuring the length of a shadow in Alexandria to calculate its angle as compared to no shadow in Syene on the same day. How many of today's trigonometry or geometry students would conceive of this clever method?

I also encourage you to read this book for the purpose of thinking about how multidisciplinary perspectives can advance knowledge in ways that a narrower focus cannot. I would love to see this kind of thinking applied to many other issues about ancient times, such as how the pyramids were built.

I encourage you to do your own amateur sleuthing. Take something that seems unusual. What set of facts could explain it? In that way, you will strengthen your deductive powers.

Look closely, think hard, and fit the pieces together carefully . . . like reconstructing a broken pottery artifact!

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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Not enough meat ... I'm still hungry, December 17, 2001
I was intrigued enough by the subtitle of this book to purchase it and give it a read. Long ago I thoroughly enjoyed Thor Heyerdahl's books, and having just finished "The Nautical Chart" by Perez-Reverte, I was looking forward to an interesting read. But I found this book only a short snack, and not a satisfying meal.

What do I wish had been included? More details of the author's own adventures, and how they influenced his thinking and speculation on the modern day locations of ancient sites visited by seafarers. Fewer details from the stories of Jason and the Argonauts and Odysseus, and more details on the Muslims and their explorations.

I was also not convinced that the mythologies surrounding Jason and Odysseus might have been derived from actual voyages to actual locations. A more scholarly approach, with less speculation, would have carried me further.

In all, the book was too short to accomplish what could have been a very good tale.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing work of experience, research and ideas, December 23, 2010
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We are preparing the Mediterranean expedition for the Vessel Heraclitus, on the seas for over 30 years. Obregon's book is a revelation to the expedition leaders, our captain of 15 years, and other colleagues investigating maritime history. We know from experience that his fresh ideas on history are based on experience. Obregon is no armchair historian; with daring and persistence, he has personally sailed the routes of Greeks, Vikings and others; he has also doggedly hunted down relevant archeological finds. The new twist he gives on classical texts is a delight, as well as comparative analysis of major seafaring traditions. Obregon spins compelling, poetic literature. A true classic, a must for anyone interested in maritime history, classics, and exploration.
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