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“Introspective readers will identify with Noren and his doubts and sense of despair while the general science fiction buff will appreciate the further experiences of Noren within the credibly developed society on a planet unlike Earth.” —Booklist
“Andre Norton fans will definitely be interested in the books of Sylvia Louise Engdahl. The present book [on a preceding list of 20 recommended as the best original novels of the year] is a sequel to This Star Shall Abide which I unfortunately missed when it appeared. I’ll try to make up for it by not missing any more.” —Locus
“Offers depth and provocative ideas for the mature reader who wants more than just action.” —Bulletin of the Center for Children’s Books
“Engdahl’s science fiction I cannot praise highly enough. Anyone truly interested in books of philosophical and moral depth for young people should fix her name in his mind.... The questions posed are not easy, the answers are rarely pat, but surely in a time of moral, social, economic and ecological crisis they are extremely relevant.” —Provident Book Finder, Scottsdale, Pennsylvania
“The author asks some thought provoking questions.... The ideas of power, heresy, self-knowledge, and acceptance are thoroughly examined in a book that is a testimony to the human spirit.” —News-Gazette, Martinez, California
--This text refers to the Kindle Edition edition.
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This book is very provoative,
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This review is from: Beyond the Tomorrow Mountains. (Library Binding)
This book is really the first I've encountered that's really dealt with matters that are important,what is the reason for life, and why must we die. If you're not interested in that, that's fine. After all, the trauma the main character goes through is written with beautifull language, and the story of this civilazation is enough to endure the deep thinking. This is not your average science fiction thriller; if you're looking for a shallow book with green aliens with stalks and tentacles, you had better move on. This book is a thrilling reading experience, that kept me up till one on a school day reading it. Please, find out the joy for yourself!
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Atheists need faith too,
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This review is from: Beyond the Tomorrow Mountains (Kindle Edition)
"Beyond the Tomorrow Mountains" by Sylvia Engdahl is the sequel to one of my high school favorite reads "This Star Shall Abide". In the first book we are introduced to Noren who values truth above all things. He's born in a village on a world with a strict caste system. Education is limited for those born in his caste. At the top of the heap are the "Scholars" who "know everything" and then there are the Technicians who can use machines....which are holy.
Noren is a heretic for believing that there's nothing special about Technicians and Scholars that he couldn't be himself, if only he had access to the knowledge. The first book is all about Noren's journey as a heretic who values the truth -- who comes to learn that the Prophecy is essentially true and that the Scholars have a very good reason for the way things are -- culminating in Noren becoming a Scholar himself. The problem is that mankind's sun went nova destroying the six worlds of humanity. The world they are living on has no metals, no trees -- nothing that can be used to maintain society. Even the soil and water are poisonous. All they have is the technology they brought with them and it has to last for generations until they can figure out how to create metal from nuclear fusion. In order to preserve the technology, and yet grow the population -- they created a caste system. It's a horrible thing, and all the Scholars feel it's horrible, but the alternative is the extinction of the human race. It's a book that filled my mind as a high schooler with the thoughts of truth and whether or not it's better to know and face pain or be happy and ignorant. This second book could have been subtitled "Atheists need faith too". It lacks all the charm of the first book. Noren, now a scientist, is faced with the fact that creating metal is impossible by all known theories. Not just "we don't know how", but "we know it can't be done". He is paralyzed by this realization and is stripped of all the faith that he had (not faith in God, but faith that the Scholars would succeed). Sylvia is does a wonderful job of putting you into Noren's mind of despair. So good a job, that the reader is filled despair. And it goes on and on and on. If you like despair, you'll like this book. There is a payoff for those who don't slit their throats by the end of the book. Noren does find faith. Not faith in any type of god or religion, but just faith enough that it's better to try to live and die than just to give up and die. I will be pressing on to read the third and final book just because Sylvia learned after writing the first two that she overlooked a possible solution to the no-metal delimma. Let's hope that the theme of the third book isn't "everyone should endure a time of great despair" :) The first book I'd recommend. It would (and did) stand alone fine as a single book. This second one -- I'm not sure who I'd recommend the book to. Atheists looking for a reason to live, perhaps. Lee
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By Judy Smith "judylynnsbooks" (jamestown, ky United States) - See all my reviews (VINE VOICE) (REAL NAME)
This review is from: Beyond the Tomorrow Mountains. (Library Binding)
Noren had accepted the fact that the society on the planet on which she lived had to have three distinct groups: villagers who know little and farmed; Technicians who worked the complicated machines that kept the land fertile and the water safe; and Scholars who alone knew that existence on the Machines, brought with them from elsewhere and irreplaceable until specific scientific advances were made. Noren, once a villager, was now a Scholar because he had proved his right to be one. He knew the secrets kept by scholars and he had dedicated himself to helping achieve the scientific advances that would allow machines and learning to come to all people. But he still had doubts about his society and himself. Confronted with questions about the universe that seemed to have no answer; and problems on his own planet that seemed equally unanswerable, despair overcame hope. And when his depression was further fed by a series of incidents that seemed to herald the final disaster for his people, he gave up entirely. Yet that was not the end, for Noren learned at last the secret of surviving evn the most desolate crisis. Noren's world is not our world, but his problems are unmistakenly the problems of all living creatures. 257 pages.
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