I wouldn't say I'm SUPER hardcore about "the Buff'", but if the picture quality was even marginally better, I'm pretty sure that *eventually* I'd re-pickup the series if it went Blu-ray.
Maybe it's just the age of my dvd sets, or even my dvd-player for that matter, but I've noticed that a lot of the dark scenes (like really dark scenes, where they're in the sewers, dark crypts, etc) look REALLY like crap lately. Granted, I might be just paranoid, but having this been the fifth or so run of watching the entire series through, I'm pretty sure I'm beginning to notice my dvds crapping out, and these are some of the oldest dvds I own--as well it could just be the case that I'm only NOW noticing how poor the picture/dvd performs in these scenes, too, I guess.... As I said, I may just be being paranoid here.
Either way, if there's a noticeably better Buffy, I'm in.
M. Sanges, I just bought season 2 on the slim set the other day brand new (having to replace all my Buffy sets grrr) and the really dark scenes looked HORRIBLE on it. A huge series collection Blu-ray would make me happy if they really remastered the show to look better it does now on DVD.
M. Sanges, Your dvd player hasnt gotten any worse, and the disc hasn't changed. The problem is most likely you originally watched these on a smaller CRT television which typically had good black levels. Watching these on an LCD tv, or older DLP rear projection is hard because LCDs typically have horrible contrast ratios (not all do, but most). It gives the show a washed out look.
Buffy was shot on film, but were prepared (post-production) for standard def viewing so I guess it's going to be a lot of work to redo this. First two seasons shot on 16mm, and there will be improvement, just not as much as seasons 3-7 will be.
For the record (this is in general,not just for SatoSky), the first person to reply to me, Rigel, answered my question perfectly... then suddenly everyone else started-in. It's great to have a real forum going, but my concerns have been handled.
My issue with noticing dark scene frame-rates crawling, and general pitch/saturation ickyness is from being viewed on the very same antique (8 years old now??) 32" CRT that it was originally seen on. So although yes, totally agree about the new HDs making film transfers look crappier than ever before, it doesn't really apply.
If they actually *did* go through all of the decision making of putting the series on BR, let's hope they hand the project off to a separate firm, maybe while they're painstakingly remastering they can also get just one good menu system up and running for the series as well, eh? How's that for wishful thinking. 9,9
I would definately buy the series on Blu-Ray if it were released without a moment's hesitation. The fact that Blu-Ray television series offer such nice additions like SeasonPlay and can store so much more information (the possibility of adding more commentary, more special features, additional things like scripts and art, etc.) and the picture quality is so great, combined with the scratch-proof surface (they say scratch-resistant but it's impossible to scratch them) and the great sound quality of 5.1 TrueHD or Master Audio HD which is what it would be released in. It would definately be worth it. Also new packaging to keep the discs from falling out like they do in my current sets and so many fewer discs...it would make sure that I can keep watching them forever. As it is now, on my 11th viewing of the series, my DVDs are pretty scratched up not even from mistreating them as I take great care of them, but from using them in DVD players that I've literally blown out watching Buffy/Angel/Firefly. All that has to happen is for the tray to get the slightest bit off tilt and then after playing 4 episodes when you take the disc out you'll see a dozen new tiny scratches on it.
Well Fallen, the discussion has turned more towards the fact that it's a Fox owned (or is it just distributed by them? I don't know, whichever) television series and as such, they don't tend to really care how well or how much they can make a really great dvd package... they just tend to throw things together and ship it out the door, presumably for the proverbial "quick buck", so if this ever did go Blu-Ray... it'd probably just be the data from each individual dvd suddenly crammed onto fewer Blu-Rays but hey, we can hope that someone over there gets their head out of their butt at some point. [Sorry for the giant run-on, just got out of work and don't have a lot of brain capacity left, oh well.]
They don't seem too concerned with lowering the disk counts on a lot of sets that I've noticed. They can fit so much on a Blu-ray but the most they seem to do is have 5 episodes per disk instead of 4. You tend to end up with 1 less disk per season which isn't that huge of a difference, well over 7 years of Buffy and 5 of Angel that would be 12 less disks I guess. I just hope that if they ever do put it on Blu that they can make "Once More With Feeling" animorphic.
Did you ever think that your picture quality is crapping out because, just like a VCR, you have to clean your DVD player every so often. When you notice your picture quality getting bad, drop in a DVD cleaning disk and you will be amazed how much better it will look.I bet the majority of the public that watch DVD,s have ever heard of a DVD cleaning disk. You can pick one up at any Radio Shack store, or I wouldn't doubt if Wal-Mart doesn't even sell them. very inexpensive,probably around $5.00 bucks
Why yes, yes L. Wolfe, I actually did think to be a reasonably responsible individual and keep up with the general upkeep of precision piece of home electronics like a normal person, but thank you for the lecture in what and where dvd lens cleaners are. The picture quality is simply terrible in some scenes throughout the series, as another user agreed with me.
Buffy was shot in higher than high definition. The first season or two was shot on 16mm film, which is still a lot higher than 1080p resolution. After that they were shot on Super 35mm film, which is what 99% of all films are shot on and are WAY WAY higher resolution than high definition.
Wrong, Mr. Gallagher. My contact at Netflix (he works in the encoding dept.) insists that Fox supplied them with the full 16:9 masters for seasons 4-7 (also season 1 of Angel, which has never before been released in ANY region as 16:9). Do a side-by-side screen-shotcomparison as I did and the truth shall set you free. You will notice that seasons 1-3 (never mastered in any format other than 4:3) are 4:3 on Netflix. I agree with mao_soup: the 16:9 viewing experience improves BTVS immeasurably.
I would absolutely buy the blu-ray complete series if it were remastered and fixed up. I didn't buy this collection, but I do own all individual seasons of the show and they are really dark. It would be smart of Fox looking into it - Buffy is still a relevant show, it's a cult classic and has millions of fans - effort in cleaning up the quality a bit would not go unappreciated. If the quality was there, fewer disks were in the series, the same special features added, and new/never-before-seen bloopers, dailies, interviews were included, I think the majority of fans would buy it. I wouldn't be surprised if one is on the back burner at Fox for a 2017 release (20 year anniversary). That way they could also do "A Look Back" with the cast and crew. It's wishful thinking on my part, but that gives them 5 1/2 years to work with.