Customer Reviews

Bosch 4410L 15-Amp 10-Inch Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw

5 star:		(83)
4 star:		(13)
3 star:		(2)
2 star:		(1)
1 star:		(1)

 

 

I consider myself to be an intermediate woodworker. Using various joints including dovetails, mitres, and other multifaced joints in my work. I bought the 4410l to do a house full of baseboard and some crown moulding and am very pleased with the performance of this saw. Right out of the box, which arrived in only 4 days,the saw produced machinist square cuts and absolutely "light tight" crown cuts. ALL angles came dead accurate from the factory. The laser is just a wow factor and the dust collection isn't the greatest but the cuts this slider makes are a thing of beauty and ease,even with the supplied blade. I honestly don't understand the negative reviews about accuracy with this unit. I have the 10" Bosch contractors saw and its performance was what led me to this sliding mitre saw, Bosch was up to the task again. Fit,finish,upfront controls,the micro fine adjustment was wonerful on the crown cuts,...all great. This is good saw and I recommend it highly.

Reading all these five star reviews makes me jealous. I'm a professional carpenter and there's a lot I love about this saw: the upfront controls, the table extensions that are perfecly in plane with the table, the tall sliding fences, the smooth, quiet motor... I'll never be totally happy with a saw that doesn't have those features. But I'm sure not happy with mine. It has the dreaded wavy cut syndrome. It's not caused by sloppy sliders as some reviewers have speculated. The problem is when the plane of the blade is not perfecly in line with the direction of the slide. Everything on the saw can be adjusted except that. If you get one do some test cuts on some wide stock right away. Chop it close in, then fully extended. Do you see a sawtooth in your cut? When you slide cut do you get any burn marks on the sides of the cut or a wavy cut? I did, and I took mine to a factory service center. They said the put a lot of new parts in it and checked it out but guess what. It still won't cut right. If you get a good one you'll love it, if you don't, send it back!

i was dissapointed to read the negative reviews by others regarding this great tool. i am replacing a makita ls 1013 saw with this one, i have been using the makita brutally for about five years (finish work, cabinets, framing) - it has been great but i was never satisfied with how difficult it was to square the fence to the blade - the adjustment always needed to re re-adjusted; the dual slides became very dirty and difficult to operate and the miter pivot got clogged a lot.

i am impressed with the quality of features and the thoughtfulness of the levers, guages, etc. on the bosch 4410. i really like the way the motor is placed up behind the blade, keeping it out of the way. the saw has tons of power - scary power really. i had heard that there was a lot of plastic on the bosch saws - not so. there is of course some - but most everything is quality machined aluminum - very nice. most of the knobs and pins are coated with a plastic or rubber. all the controls are up front and very intuitive. i really like the operational instructions on a sticker on the saw - very easy to follow. the fact that the two extension wings slide out from the base of the saw is really nice - i was always hunting for those bar supports on the makita.

the saw came securely boxed wrapped in a durable plastic sheet. cut perfectly the first time. i love the high level of visability to either side of the blade and the pivoting top handle is a nice addition.

in short, i could not be more pleased with the quality, function, accuracy and finish of this saw. i tested the squareness of the blade - it was dead on right out of the box. I love the micro adjust feature as well - beats a hammer and a block of wood.

the folks at bosch have really produced a quality machine that i am sure will last for years to come.

if i could give it six stars i would. again, dont be swayed by the negative reviews - i am not sure where that came from...

Let me start off by saying I'm not a cabinet maker of 20 years nor a sun tanned construction worker on my sixth miter saw. I can't tell you about cut comparisons and won't try to sway you on accessories I know nothing about. This is my first miter saw and I thought I might be able to help someone in the same boat. I knew nothing about miter saws so I started a two month long search that included the internet, magazines, and local store visits. Like most (all) items everyone has a favorite but like cream some names always rise to the top. The majority of the tool reviews put Makita and Bosch at the top of the miter saw list. Many customer reviews also found favorites in DeWalt, Delta, Hitachi, Milwaukee and, Ridgid. I don't really care about the names since I own products from many of the above. My only criteria for this selection was to avoid my greatest fear "Buyers Remorse".
After doing my homework I sat down with the information gathered and had to decide what type of saw met my needs.
-My table saw has a 10 inch blade so why not stick with this size? - cut capacity
-Can cut capacity be increased without going to a larger blade? - slider
-How about a laser? - why not?
-Dual bevel? - almost standard
-Ease of use? - proper adjustment location with precision movement. good manual
So it was going to be a 10 inch dual bevel compound slider with laser.
This combination pretty much left me with the Hitachi, the Makita and, the Bosch. From my review reading I narrowed the selection down to Makita or Bosch but I wanted to see all three in person first. I could not find the 10 inch Bosch in my area so I checked out the 12 inch in its place. If price and availability were not an issue the Bosch would win hands down. I may not have know anything about miters but I knew quality when I saw it. The Bosch appeared to be better built, certainly had a better layout and had a smoother action than the other two. My choice seemed to be a no brainer until Amazon offered the Makita at a very hard to pass up price the same day I was going to make my move. I ran back to the store to take another look at the Makita, thought about "Buyers Remorse" and ordered the Bosch. I ordered it from Amazon because of the price and it was not available locally. It arrived in good shape and thank god it had a good manual because I didn't have a clue as to what to do with it. After much reading, I mounted the saw on a Delta miter saw stand, nice stand, good price at Lowe's. I had to make a small blade adjustment to get it plumb and I was up and running. The included Bosch blade is decent but I replaced it with an Infinity "Miter Max" and all is well (I'll keep the Bosch blade for back-up).
After a lot of playing and a few home projects you may ask about "buyers Remorse" - Not here - not with this saw!

Update: After a full year of use and many projects later I'm still very happy with this purchase. I do agree that dust collection additions are a must and the laser site is only to be used for quick rough cuts, but I think this is true on all miter saws. You should also invest in a top-notch quality blade. Great saw!

For every one out there, the Bosch 4410L is a great saw.

Pro

-On board tool storage for adjustments and blade change

-Up front release for bevel/compound cuts and a max bevel override that does not require you to true it 45 degrees afterward, like the Hitachi C10FSH

-Quick and fine adjustment for depth of cut

-Standard adjustable table extension

-Adjustable trigger handle

-Miter scale is cast (not a sticker like Hitachi C10FSH

-When truing the saw use machinist squares/triangles or a quality combination square and the settings will REMAIN TRUE by far longer than the Hitachi 10" or the Dewalt 12" slide compound

-ect........

Con

-the laser is a 1/32 away from the actual cut and is only active while the blade is spinning

-dust collection is ok but, what slide compound has great dust collection?

-Read the instructions before using the micro adjustment knob

-6 pounds heavier than the Hitachi C10FSH

-you will have to replace the blade

I've owned the Dewalt 12", Hitachi 10" and recently the Bosch 10" slide compound and it is by far the best saw out of the three I've used.

In general the saw is a little complicated but read the directions and you'll be happy.

I had a 10 inch Delta dual bevel compound miter saw for several years, but wanted to buy a slider to increase the cross cut capacity. I also did a bit of research like others who have reviewed this saw. It seems a few years ago many saws had trouble with play in the sliding mechanism, but that seems to have been resolved for the most part in the new saws. Some of the negative reviews here scared me a bit, but I was convinced to buy this saw after reading a saw to saw comparison of six sliding compound miter saws (SCMS) in Fine Woodworking (October 2006). This saw was their top pick so, I decided to purchase from Amazon. If you are considering buying a 10 inch SCMS, I highly recommend reading the review in Fine Woodworking. The review gives a detailed comparison of the saws using identical cutting tests.

The saw arrived via UPS without any problems. I checked all angles for accuracy with set up, and everything was dead on right out of the box. No adjustments for my saw! The blade is high quality - about the level of a CMT blade, but probably not up to Forrest blade standards. Yes, the dust collection is about average, but I have not seen a saw that collects anywhere near all the dust produced. The one negative is the laser. It is not accurate, so do not expect it to be. If you need a saw that has an accurate laser, this is not it. However, I have read the only saw that does have an accurate laser is the Delta 12 inch chop saw. Delta no longer makes a SCMS. So, it seems right now no one offers a SCMS with an accurate laser.

So, bottom line, this is a great saw, that easily has 12 inch crosscut capacity (my old delta was only about 4.5 inch capacity. Another great feature to keep in mind is the up front bevel lock, rather than the lock being placed in the back of the saw table as most brands do. My saw was ready out of the box.

I have never owned a Bosch tool before but was looking to upgrade my 10" miter saw with a slider. I struggled with the decision to get a 10 or 12 inch and settled on this 10. I chose it over the 12 for several reasons. It's lighter, blades are cheaper, the saw is cheaper, smaller blades have less deflection, not a huge cutting advantage in the larger 12". The saw definitely a quality piece of machinery and cuts extremely well. Other reviewers hacked on the stock blade and accuracy but I found both exceptional. The sliding mechanism is smooth and slop free, the blade has no bearing movement as older versions had a concern with. I love the laser for many cuts but don't use it if I am looking to be within 1/32nd. The switch handle is 3 position adjustable for different grips, table is smooth with solid detents, well written owners manual, up front controls, nice fence and extensions, onboard tool storage, nice quick clamp system, well positioned carry handles, the saw is well marked with how to stickers. I didn't find anything on this saw that didn't work the way it was suppose to or felt cheaply made. I almost went with the Makita because some of the "pros" didn't like this saw, I'll never look back.

Bosch spent a good bit of time making this saw ease to use and adjust, and as a left-hander, this is the first in recent memory that makes the cut easy to do with the left hand _without_ a vertical handle. In fact, the main handle can be oriented just about however you like.

Cutting and accuracy were very good right out of the box. I was within a half degree of square and plumb according to my Starrett, and the instructions with the saw made it easy to adjust. Common miter and bevel angles are accurate.

The upfront controls for the bevel are a little bit soft - a multiposition knob feels a little vague when setting, but that is a relatively minor nit. The laser sight is decent, but it is only really accurate at a given height above the piece - I rely on it only for initial sighting.

The enclosed blade works well - I would recommend a Forrest blade or ther comprable replacement made for the saw as an upgrade. Definitely takes the cut to a new level of smoothness.

I have had this saw several months now, and their hasn't been a letdown in the quality of the cuts.

I'm an Engineer who does woodworking as hobby. But I didn't buy this saw to use it for my hobby. I got it, because I'm adding an addition to my house and plan to use it for the trim carpentry (that I'm going to do). I needed a miter saw that could be moved from room to room (my tablesaw is just plain to big to be moved around). So I looked at the 12 inch miter saws, and when you look at how much they cut vs a sliding compound, it just seemed stupid to not spend the extra $100 to $150 and get a 10" sliding compound - you get more cutting capacity for your money. Plus I think if I use the saw enough I'll save the extra dollars purely on using my current 10" saw blades from my tablesaw.

Anyway, the saw came ok (it's a big box - about 3 x 2 x 2). Mine came UPS, and the box was somewhat frayed on the edges, but otherwise ok. Be carefull taking it out of the box, as the recomended way to carry it is not the easy way to get it out of the box (I recommend you download the users manual from the Bosch website to see how to carry it). Its a heavy sucker - 44lbs, but the heaviness helps you when you use the saw - it tends to stay where put (if you take reasonable care not to jerk the blade head around.)

I like a lot of people seem to be able to figure out how to put together a tool without the manual. Not this one. Even though there's not much to do to put it together, the different parts and gizmos aren't easy to find and/or figure out just by looking at. If you used a compound miter saw I think it would be easy. This is my first one, so alot of the terminology I'm not familiar with. The Bosch manual is top notch. They use simple line drawings and have a clearly written step by step procedure on how to do the adjustments and use the saw.

The saw did not cut a straight 90 degrees. It was off, I guess about 1 degree. You'd think thats not much, but on a 1 inch x 1 inch, the eye can pick it up - and using a square it stands out. The adjustment to make it square took me about 20 minutes and required me to go from back to the front several times. Also, when I "calibrated" (bosch's term for tunning) it, and then tightened up the various set screws and bolts, it was still off. So I did that twice, and it was still off, so I finally over adjusted and it was real close after tightening it up. Now the adjustments impressed me as they are several 1/2" bolts and a big set screw- so they seem to be extremely 'well engineered'. I put the "well engineered" in quotes to point out that only time will tell.

My base on the saw didn't sit flush on the table, one of the legs was off about 1/8 inch - so I just put a piece of wood to level it out.

Another adjustment I had to do, was the miter lock. It took too much force to lock it in. I had to hold the miter saw with my other hand to steady it when locking it in (pushing it down). I believe it should be tight, but that was too much. But amazingly the Bosch 4410l had a adjustment for that - on many saws that degree of adjustment just doesn't exist.

After the above adjustments the saw checked out on all other ajustments. Now, you might think because it needed adjustment that this might be a negative. When I think about all the possible things that can happen to a package that ships by air and then by truck, I don't think its that all unlikely that it might arrive needing adjustment. In fact doing the adjustments is a good introduction to the saw for one that's not familiar in using a miter saw.

In use, I've yet to use it for any real work. But I cut about twenty pieces at 90 degree and left/right 45 degree and they check out perfectly with a Starret square. I've yet to do any compound cut tests, but I don't think I'll find any problem.

One of the doodads that's hard for me to figure out, is the compound left/right knob. It seems to want to detent for the left ok, but the detent for the right needs you to tilt the saw to the right slightly before the detent catch's. A minor problem, but kind of frustrating if you aren't aware of it - to be honest I'm wouldn't be surprised if the manual explains that.

Now to go over the rest of the stuff. Its fit and finish is excellent, much metal where it needs to be, much soft plastic for easy on the hands, and many neat extras (like a good sturdy hold down clamp and nice adjustable tall fence). The up front controls as mentioned by others I've almost overlooked. The question is why would you put the controls anywhere else? One more thing, the laser was packed seperately and took about 5 minutes to put on (you have to wedge it under the safety shield to get it on).

All in all its a 4 star rating I'm giving, not so much for the minor challenges that I described above but because I can't tell you how it works day in day out on a weekend (or longer) job. This is where the true testing starts. The stuff I did, is sort of just getting off of the starting line. However, knowing Bosch I bet it'll get that last star.

I appreciated the other reviews, I hope my 2cents answers any questions you might still have. Good luck and be safe when you get yours.

I am amazed there is such a difference of opinion about this saw. In my case, it required only minor adjustment right out of the box. After several months of use, the saw still cuts dead-on 90 degrees without any adjustment. I especially like the micro adjustment feature and use it frequently. Some complaints such as dust collection and less than premium saw blade are common to most saw brands. Really, to effectively collect fine dust from a miter saw you need to fit a dust hood behind the saw hooked to a very powerful dust collector. I agree with most of the positive comments other reviewers have made about the saw and would certainly buy it again.