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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars MGD54
I can't make up my mind about the Bernstein/Vienna Brahms Third, but I have no doubt about the Fourth--it's easily the best recording of the piece that I've heard. Just listen to the coda of the first movement, where Bernstein sustains the tension and power, creating an ending that is stunning in its implacability. The same could be said of the entire fourth movement. I...
Published on July 8, 2001 by mgd54

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3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting but WAAAAYYYY too slow
I first listened to this disc after finding that I liked Bernstein's Mozart, as well as some of his Beethoven, from this time period. I figured the next logical step was to try his Brahms. Overall, I was a bit disappointed.

I guess part of it is that I can deal with slower Beethoven, at least with the 3rd and 9th(to an extent). But I don't feel that this...
Published on November 17, 2005 by Joey Joe Joe Jr. Shabadoo


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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars MGD54, July 8, 2001
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This review is from: Brahms: Symphony No. 4; Tragic Overture (Audio CD)
I can't make up my mind about the Bernstein/Vienna Brahms Third, but I have no doubt about the Fourth--it's easily the best recording of the piece that I've heard. Just listen to the coda of the first movement, where Bernstein sustains the tension and power, creating an ending that is stunning in its implacability. The same could be said of the entire fourth movement. I don't mean to slight the other movements--the second is moving, without overexaggerating the many beautiful momemts, and the third is exciting and well-paced. Brahms was, after all, a Romantic composer, not an early neoclassicist, and throughtout this symphony Bernstein finds and communicates the substantial emotional content without neglecting the musical structure. The Vienna Philharmonic plays with absolute discipline and precision.
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting but WAAAAYYYY too slow, November 17, 2005
This review is from: Brahms: Symphony No. 4; Tragic Overture (Audio CD)
I first listened to this disc after finding that I liked Bernstein's Mozart, as well as some of his Beethoven, from this time period. I figured the next logical step was to try his Brahms. Overall, I was a bit disappointed.

I guess part of it is that I can deal with slower Beethoven, at least with the 3rd and 9th(to an extent). But I don't feel that this approach works as well for Brahms, for whatever reason.

There are some good points to this account - the first movement is pulled off fairly well, although a bit too emotive for Brahms' rather restrained compositional style. The second movement, as Hurwitz correctly states (for once!) is agonizingly slow, to the point of sheer tedium. Probably the highlight of the performance is a surprisingly boisterous Scherzo, but once this ends, we are back to a snail-pace in the Finale. All in all, not terrible, but not great either. I'm not a speed-freak in terms of tempo, but at a certain point you need to adhere at least remotely to the composer's markings. For example, if the Finale is marked "allegro energico e passionato - piu allegro", then it should be pretty quick. Here, though, we get allegretto, tops.

In spite of all this, there are some fine moments; the Scherzo as I previously mentioned, and much of the first movement. But another detriment to the recording is the horribly dry early digital sound, which, as another reviewer stated, really sucks the life out of the strings and makes the brass sound exceedingly harsh. Overall, you should buy it if you really love Lenny (I'm so-so on him), especially late Lenny. If you like slow Brahms (but not this slow), try Giulini's 1970 recording with the Chicago Symphony on EMI. It is slow, but more cohesive overall than this account.

But for some more authoritative recent 4th's, look to Abbado, Karajan, or Kleiber.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars I wonderful recording, warts and all., December 11, 2001
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This review is from: Brahms: Symphony No. 4; Tragic Overture (Audio CD)
This live performance is a really strong one. Yes, Bernstein's tempi (particularly in the last movement) are sometimes agonizingly slow, but he keeps it all together. Some might quibble with his slowing-down-in-order-to-speed-up approach, but it certainly creates dramatic tension and excitement. The jubilant third movement is one of the best moments. I only wish the strings sounded stronger, as they are often outdone by the brass. The coda of the fourth movement is exhilerating, and hearing Lenny's grunts in the background is a real treat. The orchestra isn't as clear as it could be, but what it lacks in clarity it makes up for with robustness of sound and pure grandeur. The biggest disappointment is the second movement, where the beautiful string climax near the beginning doesn't quite come off. Otherwise, this is a real treat that only tempo-fascists would hate!
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Excellent selection for the price, March 5, 2002
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This review is from: Brahms: Symphony No. 4; Tragic Overture (Audio CD)
... Bernstein's VPO Brahms 4th is right up there with the legendary Carlos Klieber account. Lenny's performance is simply the other side of the same coin. His is a superbly played Brahms in a huge, massive, and weighty mode.

Lenny dives into every nook and cranny of the 4th movement to produce a realization so moving that I'll never hear its like again, leaving me to supplement this movement often on other recordings. Also, Lenny's account of the Tragic Overture on this disc is superb. *But most important of all*, you cannot ask for a better performance *at this price*.

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3 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Best Brahms 4!, February 6, 2000
This review is from: Brahms: Symphony No. 4; Tragic Overture (Audio CD)
A perfect performance and recording. I don't know where Mr. Hurwitz gets his strange ideas. This recording is so fine and sensitive, the way only Bernstein knows how to do.
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2 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars What's going on?, December 16, 1999
This review is from: Brahms: Symphony No. 4; Tragic Overture (Audio CD)
I don't know where David Hurwitz gets his ideas from. Thisrecording is divine. It sounds like the piece was written forBernstein.
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