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156 of 156 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Advanced Safety And Large At A Premium, August 29, 2009
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The Britax Advocate CS appears similar to the Boulevard model but with the Side Impact Cushion Technology. The CS stands for Click & Safe Harness Adjuster, which tries to notify you of the proper "snugness" of the harness with audible clicks. What most Amazon readers probably want to know is, is this car seat worth the premium and how is it different from the other Britax models? Hopefully this review will help you make the best decision for you, but I cannot provide a definitive answer to the question of whether it is worth the premium. It is to my family.
My Configuration:
2002 Toyota 4Runner
Rear Facing
Shoulder Belt Install
PROS:
- Britax safety history
- Side Impact Protection (including Side Impact Cushion Technology)
- Fantastic weight range (5-35lbs rear facing) (20-65 forward facing)
- Comfortable and super soft cover with shoulder pads, belly pads, and infant body pillow
- Push-button LATCH connectors
- Versa-tether allows tethering even if your vehicle does not have built-in tether anchors
- Easy harness adjustment without rethreading
- Built-in Lockoffs
- Easy to recline
- Expires 6 years after manufacturing date
- Britax website provides manuals and video installation guides
CONS:
- Premium price
- Enormous size may not fit smaller vehicles well
- No ball/bubble recline level indicator
- Serial number difficult to locate
The Advocate CS is one of 4 high-capacity convertible car seats that Britax currently sells. The others are the Britax Marathon, Britax Decathlon, and Britax Boulevard. The Marathon and Boulevard are also sold with CS (Click & Safe). From what I can tell, the Marathon and the Decathlon have smaller bases for installation in smaller vehicles. The Decathlon has an infant body pillow and multiple buckle positions, but otherwise, it is similar to the Marathon, including height and weight ratings. The Boulevard and Advocate CS are very large yet still have the same child size ratings, and include what they call True Side Impact Protection. The Advocate CS is their most advanced, and expensive convertible, because it adds Side Impact Cushion Technology.
The Advocate CS is one of three Britax car seats that we actually own. We started with a Boulevard 2 years ago and recently got a Marathon CS and the Advocate CS. We installed the Advocate CS in our Toyota 4Runner in a rear facing position for our 9 month old. The Advocate CS is HUGE but fit in our vehicle pretty well. The front seat can still be far back enough to be comfortable for adult passengers to ride in. The Advocate CS may not have fit in our VW Jetta as well. We have the Britax Boulevard installed in the adjacent seat to the Advocate CS and the Advocate CS dwarfs it. The Side Impact Cushions make the back of the seat quite a bit wider, but ultimately safer.
The shoulder strap installation took about 15-20 minutes, even after having watched the installation video and reading the manual before installing. I recommend that new owners do the same. Because of the sheer size of the Advocate CS, it was difficult for one person to thread the belt through, buckle it, and tighten it. I didn't have a lot of interior room to work with, but maybe it would be easier in a mini-van. The built-in lockoffs were a bonus and much easier than having to install a separate one. I took the seat to our local police station for a car seat check and they gave it their blessing.
Our baby seems to like the Advocate CS and sits comfortably in the seat. One mistake I made at first was putting the lap belt OVER the buckle strap, under the cover. That made the buckle considerably shorter and as a result, uncomfortably tight. So be sure if you are using a shoulder belt, to put it UNDER the buckle strap. The shoulder pads, belly pads, and infant body pillow help make it more comfortable for our baby. However, the police officer recommended that we remove any pads on the actual harness because they can hinder getting the correct harness tightness. The Click & Safe system is supposed to help alert you when the correct snugness has been reached. At the point it would click, I felt it should be tighter but it was helpful to at least know I was near the correct tightness.
The service life for Britax car seats is 6 years from the manufacturing date. I had to look this up on their website, which has a lot of useful information including installation videos and user guides. It would be nice to have the expiration date located right on the serial number sticker. Until recently, I wasn't aware that car seats even had an expiration date. The serial number can be hard to find on the car seat itself so be sure to make a copy of your registration card, which has all of the information on it.
For me, there are only two challenges to the Advocate CS. The first is the enormous size. It would be easier to install with two people because of the size and it may not fit smaller vehicles as easily. You might be better off selecting one of Britax's other, smaller car seats. The second, is the price premium. We could have bought two of the Consumer Reports Best Buy recommended Evenflo models and extra toys or accessories for the price of one Advocate CS. We decided on the Britax anyways because of the number of safety features available along with our previous experience with Britax. The fact that the car seat technicians at the police station and AAA both said that they chose Britax car seats for their children, only reinforced our decision.
We are very happy with the Advocate CS. We feel confident that our child will be safe and comfortable in the Advocate CS and that it will easily last the full 6 years of service life. It is not the best value available, but that wasn't our number one priority. It probably has the most and advanced safety features of any car seat available in North America. I can only justify the cost for ourselves and I certainly would not fault anyone for going with better value alternatives.
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28 of 29 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Another Britax Hit!, September 16, 2009
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This is actually the third model of Britax car seat I've owned and reviewed. Previous to the Advocate CS, I had a brief period with the Britax Decathlon before buying a second Britax Boulevard.
The Advocate CS is very, very similar to the Boulevard in just about every regard.
From the very top, the headrest is easily moved up and down by turning a knob on the side of the seat. Once this is installed, you probably won't have to take it out of your car, other than turning it from rear-facing to front-facing, and when your child is finally too big for it. Having dealt with the "put three straps on this weird clip thing" seats, you will never, EVER want to go back after you've used the adjustment knob.
The padding is every bit as good as what you'd find on a Boulevard (and a step up from the lower-tier models, in my opinion). The fabric is made very well made and has a somewhat dense feel to it, but at the same time, it breathes well, so your child won't get too hot in warmer temperatures.
The tether system is basically unchanged from the Boulevard. There are nice, soft color-matched shoulder pads, followed by a non-slip chest harness that somehow manages to stay in place without "sticking" to your child. The Click & Safe adjustment strap is of somewhat questionable value to me. When you tug the bottom strap to tighten the harness, you hear a noise almost like a ratchet when it's snug enough. That's great if you're not used to putting your child in a seat, but in my experience, finding the proper snugness isn't very difficult. For me, the clicking was consistent with the tightness I would have used anyway. Obviously, this is something that's going to vary by the individual (and whoever else may be using their seat). Is it a good feature? Absolutely. Would I opt for a less expensive non-CS version of the Advocate (vis a vis the Boulevard and Boulevard CS)? More likely than not.
Actually installing the seat is pretty straightforward. Just like the Boulevard, the LATCH straps are mounted to an independent steel bar. Much like the headrest, this is an excellent feature that you will instantly miss if you ever have to use a child seat that isn't designed this way. Installation for experienced parents takes about two minutes. New parents... I'd give it five. Ten if you count having someone come and make sure you did it right. (No shame. I used to be guilty of this myself.) The top LATCH connector is similarly easy, and as with the Boulevard, the Advocate comes with a nice pouch for storing the tether and / or slack from it.
While the Boulevard is a relatively large child seat, the Advocate CS is a monstrosity. If you look closely at the picture, the off-white hump on the back is actually one of the two plastic side impact "wings" in addition to the cushion wings on the seat. While I like that Britax seems to be taking a "more is more" approach to impact protection, those plastic wings are not only big, they're not even sort of color-matched.
"Color matched? WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT THAT? YOU ARE AN AWFUL PARENT! SHAME ON YOU!" Okay, let's level with each other here. We're talking about an unusually expensive child seat with replaceable fabric covers that cost nearly as much as buying a whole new child seat from another company. Yes, you're paying for safety, but you're also paying for a certain amount of cachet. So, when you buy yourself an Onyx or Opus Gray Advocate CS expecting it to match your black interior, understand that you're going to have huge white plastic wings, too.
More importantly than color though, is the real value of the side wings -- which, like so many other things, depends on your personal situation. The wings are designed for two main purposes: 1) Additional protection of your child, in the event a side impact is severe enough to cause the interior of your car to make physical contact with the seat and 2) Protection for rear passengers who may be thrown or pushed against the seat in the event of an impact.
For my personal situation, we have one child, whose seat is positioned in the center of the rear seat. There's nobody else back there to be hurt by the child seat, and if an impact is severe enough for the interior to make contact with the seat, the accident would almost certainly be fatal for all passengers, regardless. On the other hand... If I regularly had passengers who sat in the back seat such that there was someone else who could potentially be injured, and I had to put the seat near one of the side doors, I would not hesitate to buy the Advocate precisely for the added protection. Seriously. When you're looking at this much money for a child seat, what's an extra $40?
So... would I recommend it? To many people, without question. Sure, some things border on gimmicky, but I can't think of a safer seat you can buy. That said, if money's a concern, if you don't have other back seat passengers, or if you're concerned about appearance almost as much as safety, I really think the Boulevard may be a better choice. If you have your heart set on Click & Safe, maybe the Boulevard CS. If you took off the side plastic wings from the Advocate CS, you'd have a Boulevard CS. At the end of the day, all three are incredibly well-built seats that are packed with features, and better than "comfortable" for your child.
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22 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The best safety money can buy!, June 26, 2009
My son is eight months old and was ready to move out of his starter seat into something bigger. I wanted something that we could, of course, still use rear facing until he was at least a year old, then use forward facing until we no longer needed a car seat.
I also wanted the top notch in safety that I could buy. As I researched this purchase, I learned more and more about the deadly effects of side impact collisions and how limited most children's car seats are in terms of protection from this type of event. Fortunately, Britax has done their homework and this seat builds on the pioneering work they've already done with side impact protection on the Boulveard. This seat has two huge crash energy absorption pads on either side to limit damage and protect kids from smashing their face into glass in a side collision.
The seat also has a tether feature that I've attached to my overhead tether connectors in the back of my Infiniti FX35 and this monster is going absolutely nowhere.
Installation was a snap, took me about fifteen minutes. Just remember to put it in full recline before installing it if you're installing it rear facing.
While the safety is clearly the key rationale for spending this money, I also feel good knowing my little guy is comfy cozy in what has to be one of the plushest car seats ever made. This thing is the kid version of a Heavenly Bed.
While the side panels certainly make it larger than the Boulevard, it is easily manageable for taking on airplane trips if you're going on vacation. We took it with us to St. Croix and had no problems. However, I do feel it is big enough that it's not something you're going to want to remove from your car on a daily basis.
Feel good knowing you purchased the safest seat money can buy and your baby won't mind the fact that he's sleeping in a giant marshmallow!
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