Seasons 4 and up are all widescreen 16:9 format. Joss may have wanted it in 4:3 but it was definitely filmed in at least 16:9. I am sitting here watching both versions side-by-side and they cropped the sides for the 4:3. I can't understand why he thinks this is better. I have NOT once seen anything enter the frame that shoudln't be there, ie boom mic, cameraman, etc. It's better. I will never go back to 4:3. See for youself on Netflix. You can stream it to your comp or XBOX360.
Don't believe it. I just checked out episode 1 of season 6 on Netflix. That's not a true 16:9 format. It's just a zoomed in crop of the original 4:3. You can tell because the bottom half of the credits shown in the beginning of the episode crop out. I'd rather watch it in standard format without any cropping than a cropped faux widescreen... If only they would improve on the picture quality, in blu-ray. That's something this show deserves and I'd be willing to pay for, regardless of the price.
I think you need to do a side by side comparison, not just jump to conclusions after watching the credits. Do a real-time side by side comparison and tell me that they didn't crop the sides on your 4:3 version. I think they are using the UK version as there box set has seasons 4-6 in widescreen.
I stand corrected! There is indeed a crop in the dvd I own from the Netflix versions, at least in episode 1 of season 6. And now I'll always be disappointed in those cropped 4:3s!! I look forward to checking out the other eps from seasons 4-7. Thanks for the info :)
Well, if it makes you feel any better 4:3 is the way Joss wanted it, so depending on your point of view the 4:3 could be better, or at least truer to his vision. I personally think the 16:9 versions rock and think Joss can go stuff himself. Anyway, cheers.
Again, I have never once seen anything enter the shot in the way of crew, camera, etc. If you can tell me which episode, which scene, I would love to check it out.
I promise, people, you aren't blaspheming against the Holy Name of Joss to watch these in widescreen. If you can watch 4-7 in widescreen and come back here and tell me you still prefer the full screen then so be it.
Ahh, very true about "This Year's Girl". You can see the camera guy on the right side of the screen when they fall down the stairs. But I have to say, I never really noticed until someone pointed it out. I was too absorbed in the show itself.
I am mighty peeved at Joss for insisting it be released on full screen though. I watched it on Netflix too, the first time I ever watched Buffy, so it does bug me that it's cropped in the DVDs. WHY would Joss want it like that when it looks great widescreen?
Is the audio any better on the DVDs than it is on Netflix? Anyone with both DVDs and Netflix see a point in buying the discs, assuming a good price on DVDs and no streaming problems (and not taking special features into account)?
Well one reason to get the disks is that Netflix only has license to stream the show untill 2012 I think. Maybe they will get it renewed maybe they wont. Things don't stay on Watch Instant forever though.
it was filmed in widescreen, but they always knew it would be cropped, so nothing you are suppossed to see has been cropped. In the season 4 finale, Restless, when Buffy is talking to the first slayer, you can see the cheese guy standing there off to the side standing on his mark and waiting to pop into frame and offer Buffy cheese.
I just finished watching the whole thing on netflix and there often is equipment and people visible with the wider screen. In some ways I'd prefer the cropped version, as it can be distract and detract from the realism (which is funny given it is, well, a show about vampires).
I have seen booms and cameras and crews in the widescreen versions of the episodes on Netflix. Even funnier, I have seen, or heard rather, characters speaking, but their lips aren't moving because the scene they were in, they were standing in the area that would have been cropped for the 4:3 version aired on television.
On my setup, with either Netflix or Amazon streaming to a 720p Netflix box, the 16:9 picture quality is substantially inferior to the 4:3 image from my blu-ray player. Not sure if this is the source, or the difference in video processing, but it is quite clear at a glance that the DVD on the BD player has much better PQ. I can see why people think the 16:9 is cropped. It isn't but it has that kind of blow-up look. Have to try the streaming through the blu-ray player.
The widescreening on Netflix causes a ton of problems but two of my biggest peeves are... [MINOR SPOILERS]
In Season 7, episode 16 (Storyteller) Buffy watches a girl fade to invisibility and smacks the girl in the face after she has become invisible, taking a guess at where her face is. To film it they had the girl who'd faded step off camera. Except in the widescreen version she's still on camera, so Buffy is smacking the air in front of her face and acting like she hit something solid. The widescreen shot makes the scene completely baffling.
In Season 6, episode 11 (Gone) there's a scene that's supposed to play like this: Spike is watching TV. We knows this because we can hear the TV although we cannot see its screen. Spike gets up and walks away. There is the sound of the TV being turned off. Spike looks at the TV screen and we now see it is now blank. Spike is confused because he can't see who turned off the TV. Here's the problem. When they filmed this scene they never bothered to actually turn the TV on since the viewer doesn't see the front of the TV until after it's been turned off. But in the widescreen version the front of the TV is on camera and clearly turned off the entire scene. There's audio coming from nowhere and Spike ends up staring in shock at a blank TV screen that's been blank since the scene began. Again, it makes the whole scene borderline incomprehensible.
I had a friend whose first experience with Buffy was marathoning it on Netflix and she was so aggravated by what appeared to poor editing that she was going to give up on it. I had to lend her my DVDs to convince the show really did have a competent crew making it.
Hm. I have the entire set and just recently started watching it again when I bought my new widescreen TV. I'm up to season 5 and so far I still have 4:3. Does this change eventually I wonder??? Sidenote: I am also watching The X files and am also on season 5 and it just started looking wide. Interesting since that show is older.
No Kyle. The DVDs are 4:3 for the whole series. Season 4 originally came with a letter from Joss explaining he will Never let them release it any other way. He didn't have any say in the Netflix streaming version.