Calculating Infinity

The Dillinger Escape Plan | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (September 28, 1999)
• Original Release Date: September 28, 1999
• Number of Discs: 1
• Label: Relapse
• ASIN: B00001SVM6
• Also Available in: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (146 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #48,434 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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30 of 30 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars Prog-rock the Relapse way, June 10, 2000

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Andrew Miller (Kansas City, MO) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Calculating Infinity (Audio CD)

Earlier this year, one Lawrence, KS, concertgoer, bewildered by the indescribably brutal sonic attack of The Dillinger Escape Plan, blurted out during a brief break between battering riffs, "Do these songs have names?" The group's imposing singer Dimitri then smiled and spoke his only words of the night, a simple introduction of the next composition. With that, the band switched back into bludgeoning mode. Calculating Infinity, The Dillinger Escape Plan's first full-length release, remarkably captures the absolute insanity of its live performances. Some independent guitar-based music has earned the label "math rock" because of the complexity of its song structures, which feature irregular time signatures and jarring changes of pace. This band's manic tunes are more like high-level trigonometry; mind-blowingly complicated, incomprehensible to most and strangely satisfying to a select studious few. Offering more than just grindcore drums, choppy light-speed riffs and scorched-throat screams arranged with scholarly precision, Calculating Infinity delves into jazz, pretty progressive rock and disarmingly melodic near-pop. However, musically as well as lyrically, there's always something wicked lurking around the corner. After the false security offered by the intriguing instrumental "Calculating Infinity" comes "4th Grade Dropout," on which a depraved-sounding Dimitri screams I told you not to fall for it and the ominous lyrics hint at the fate that befell the child who did not heed this warning. "43% Burnt" and "Jim Fear" both pair schizophrenic music with psychotic protagonists. The Dillinger Escape Plan certainly isn't for everyone. Its songs are dark, challenging, and occasionally almost maddening. Yet for those with the sensory stamina to weather the blistering storm, Calculating Infinity provides a rewarding, if devastating, listen. With the song titles clearly listed, there's no more room for questions, and listeners are left only to stammer in stunned silence.

31 of 34 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Insane, but intricate and fascinating as well., June 28, 2003

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Dan - See all my reviews

This review is from: Calculating Infinity (Audio CD)

From the first 10 seconds of "Sugar Coated Sour", I knew this was going to be an intense album. It opens up with screaming vocals over an incredibly odd timed riff. This could be described as extreme hardcore metal punk. About 20 seconds later though, a new riff comes in, reminding me of Return to Forever or the Mahavishnu Orchestra, except way faster, and of course, still with the screaming. Then there's a brief jazzy interlude, which calms things down for about 15 seconds before cranking the intensity back up to 11. This is a typical DEP song, and a relatively short one also (it's over in about 2 minutes.)

The music, while chaotic, is impossibly intricate and would take seriously talented musicians to play. Don't be fooled; All the songs may sound the same to someone who has never heard anything like this before, but the details of each are so intricate and fascinating if one takes the time to go through and really listen to each song.

I suppose the number one complaint seems to be the vocals. I like them a lot, but I can see how they'd be way too annoying or even painful for some people. It's non-stop screaming. The guitarists are the highlight for me. When power chords are used, a b5 (flatted five) is sometimes inserted, giving DEP a unique sound in metal. There are loads of heavy riffs and quick fusion-infuenced lines, and little lead licks, but no real solos. However, even without traditional solos, DEP are one of the most complex metal bands. The drummer is disgusting. He's incredibly fast and intricate, keeping up with the songs like I could never imagine.

"43% Burnt" is considered by many to be the best song, and it is excellent. The opening is one of the heaviest sections I've heard in any music, but the chords used are not like any other metal band. There's a jazzy interlude in there that's technical as hell also. Interesting arpeggios. "Jim Fear", "Sugar Coated Sour", "Destro's Secret" and "Clip the Apex..." are all pretty similar sounding, though again, if you pay attention to detail, you'll realize the complexities.

Aside from the normal technical metal stuff, there's things that make DEP even more unique. "*#.." starts off quiet, and is basically 2 minutes dedicated to an interesting instrumental build up. There's that jazz influence again. "The Running Board" continually switches between the intense hardcore screaming sections and mellow, jazzy interludes. The title track gives you a break from the intensity, but not the complexity. Arpeggios and odd time signatures are abundant in this instrumental, and heavy odd timed riffs come in later as well. "4th Grade Dropout" brings us back to the heavier side of DEP. "Weekend Sex Change" is another mellow instrumental, with incredible drumming.

This album is not for everyone, but it really is an incredible album if you are looking for something complex, insanely heavy, and thoughtful. Repeated listenings reveal more complexities, so keep on listening. Recommended for fans of Meshuggah, Death, and other technical metal stuff.

12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars "Infinity" aside, this is for "Under the Running Board"..., May 28, 2000

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aphexin (Snobtown, Elitistville) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Calculating Infinity (Audio CD)

This cd is a Japanese import of "Calculating Infinity" with three bonus tracks that apparently appeared out of no where. Nope. The three extra tracks that are found on this release are from DEP's ep on Relapse that was released in 1998. The tracks are phenomenal. It is the same pattern, if that's what you call it, by DEP, but it sounds awesome. These are essentially the songs that started noisecore, except for anything that Coalesce put out before this. You will not believe your ears when you hear these three little songs. 7 minutes and 37 seconds of complete obliteration combined with fusing jazzy interludes and unparralleled drumming. If you can find the ep alone anywhere else, like at a record store, get it! Getting this import may be a bit pricy if you just want the extras and already have "Calculating", but as a DEP diehard fan, I would say get it if you want to spend the extra dough. If you don't have "Calculating" and you want to get into DEP, get this! I strongly urge you to take advantage of this opportunity. Relapse is slowly stopping with pressing "Under the Running Board", and as I said before, it is just insane. There are few words that can sum up the hybrids of mental instability DEP emit. Don't miss out on this seminal recording. If you like this kind of music, you won't be sorry that you spent the money to get it.