Charles Ives Remembered: AN ORAL HISTORY (Music in American Life) [Paperback]

Vivian Perlis (Author)

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Publication Date: July 24, 2002 | Series: Music in American Life

"Interweaving photographs, concert programs, scores, and drawings with the texts of more than fifty interviews with family, friends, neighbors, and colleagues, Charles Ives Remembered is a vivid memory portrait of an enigmatic American composer, told in the voices of the people who knew him best. Charles Ives (1874-1954) was publicly an insurance executive but privately a composer whose eccentric works and paradoxical life would intrigue, perplex, and inspire generations to come after him. Moving from Ives's childhood and years at Yale to his business and musical careers, the memories and reflections assembled in this Kinkeldey Award-winning volume provide a multifaceted and humanizing view of an American musical icon."

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REVIEWS "Charles Ives Remembered: An Oral History found a wide and enthusiastic audience when it appeared in 1974, and was awarded the Kinkeldey Prize of the American Musicological Society. Thanks to the University of Illinois Press, it is now back in print and accessible to a new generation of readers as well as its original fans. Over the intervening years, the book has become recognized as a classic of its kind, and the current reprinting will surely not be the last." --Chamber Music ADVANCE PRAISE "In the twenty-first century, Ives's stature as America's most profound visionary composer continues to grow. It is so important to again have access to these essential sources which allow us to understand him as a man and as a part of our nation's cultural history." -- Michael Tilson Thomas, music director of the San Francisco Symphony and artistic director and Founder of the New World Symphony "A marvelously orchestrated portrait of this utterly singular American." -- The New York Times

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• Paperback: 264 pages
• Publisher: University of Illinois Press (July 24, 2002)
• Language: English
• ISBN-10: 025207078X
• ISBN-13: 978-0252070785
• Product Dimensions: 9.1 x 6 x 0.7 inches
• Shipping Weight: 15.2 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
• Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars The Place To Start, March 16, 2003

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Todd E. Winkels (Tucson, AZ United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Charles Ives Remembered: AN ORAL HISTORY (Music in American Life) (Paperback)

This is the first book I read about Charles Ives, and I'm happy that it's still in print. If you are new to Charles Ives, I would suggest that you start here. If you have the funds, I also recommend you pick up Jan Swafford's excellant biography.
Why is this book the best place to start? The book is a compilation of thoughtful and revealing rememberances from Mr.Ives's close friends and his family, all personally interviewed by the author. We even get to hear what Mr.Ives's barber had to say about him! Perhaps most moving is the interview with Brewster, Mr.Ives's nephew.
This book is also chock full of photos and pictures of Mr.Ives's original manuscripts.

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5.0 out of 5 stars I can't overestimate the value of this priceless collection., May 9, 2003

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Bob Zeidler (Charlton, MA United States) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Charles Ives Remembered: AN ORAL HISTORY (Music in American Life) (Paperback)

I have my days when I feel as if I've known Charlie Ives all my life. Of course, this is physically impossible: when Charlie died, in 1954, I was only fifteen, and I didn't hear any of his music at least until a few years later, in college. And even then, there wasn't all that much of it available on LP. But, over a period now approaching a half-century, my knowledge of, and admiration for, the man and his music grew steadily, if at first slowly.

With this steady accumulation of knowledge now at the point where I feel at ease ("comfortable in my skin," one might say) with providing some informed commentary, I suggest to readers interested in learning about Charlie, and his life and music, two recommendations. The first recommendation is that they read Jan Swafford's "Charles Ives: A Life with Music," one of the most superb books of its kind, totally sympathetic to the man but at the same time not close-minded to his "warts" and their possible causes.

The second is of course this book by Vivian Perlis, one of the most remarkable of its kind. It is one of the most frequently quoted resources by Ives scholars and writers, and obviously so.

The reason for its very existence is almost as fascinating as its contents. Perlis, in 1968, had been working with the Ives Collection, and, to quote her (in the Preface), "I became aware that there were [...] people still living who had known and worked with [Ives], and that an effort [...] be made to [...] preserve their memories of him."

Ives died in 1954, in his eighthieth year. At the time of the start of Perlis's project, then, those of his contemporaries still alive who knew him were already well in their nineties. Mrs. Ives (Harmony Twichel Ives) was still alive, but too ill to be interviewed. (She died on Good Friday, April 4, 1969.) Ives's business partner, Julian Myrick, was able to be interviewed, but he passed on in the course of the project. Charlie's piano tuner died on the day he was to be scheduled to be intereviewed. There were only three Yale classmates who survived long enough to be interviewd. Facts such as these explain the need on Perlis's part to "work against time" in her plan to capture as many direct recollections as possible in putting together this oral history.

Perlis's subjects included, of course, family members, as well as friends and neighbors, most of them from succeeding generations. (Charlie's brother, Moss Ives, had six children [five nephews of Charlie and Harmony, and one niece]; three of the nephews provide some of the best recollections. Sadly, Charlie's niece, Sarane [Sally], as well as his own daughter, Edith [Edie], died in 1956, only two years after him.) Perlis even interviewed Charlie's personal secretary, his barber, and the architect who was responsible for remodeling his West Redding, CT home. Each provides his or her glimpse of the man. That these glimpses are often reminiscent of blind men describing an elephant speaks to the complexities of an outwardly simple-appearing man.

A large portion of the book covers recollections of musicians who knew and worked with Charlie. While all were of the succeeding younger generation, they can lay claim to being the closest to Charles Ives the composer and musician. The list reads like a "Who's Who" of mid-20th century American music: Elliott Carter, Aaron Copland, Lehman Engel, Lou Harrison, Bernard Herrmann, John Kirkpatrick, Goddard Lieberson, Carl Ruggles and Nicolas Slonimsky among others.

Each of these musical friends achieved fame for his own contributions to the art. Each remembered Charlie in the greatest of detail and anecdote, often in terms that bordered on "reverential" and with individual insights which added substantially to a better understanding of his musical psyche.

With one exception: Elliott Carter. Carter, still alive and kicking (and composing) at age 94, was one of the very earliest beneficiaries of Charlie's intellectual and personal largesse. As a teen-age high schooler, he was often invited to Charlie's W. 74th Street townhouse, a comfortably short distance from Carnegie Hall, where they would take in concerts and then talk about what they heard. Given that these were Carter's "formative years," one might think (and some do) that Carter was the logical successor to Charlie. In my judgement, he wasn't; there are simply too many differences between the two, in terms of compositional aesthetic, for the relationship to be valid. And, of all the musical associates interviewed, only Carter, in what I feel to be mean-spirited commentary, was negative about Charlie's contributions to American music. (It is more than a little interesting that Perlis, in her Preface, found it necessary to state that of all the interviews, only Carter's, as published, differed substantially from the raw interview material. One can only wonder at just what was expurgated!)

I am indebted to J Scott Morrison, fellow music lover and Amazon.com reviewer, for bringing to my attention that, in addition to Elliott Carter, there is one other survivor to this day who can claim direct contact with Charlie. That other person is Paul Moor, who interviewed Charlie for the September 1948 edition of Harper's. Moor (now in his late 70s) was in Europe between about 1953 and 1979, and therefore "out of reach" (and likely off the radar screen) of Perlis. It is too bad that this understandable omission is nonetheless an omisson. Perhaps Moor's judgement would offset Carter's; perhaps not.

In searching for a comparable book about another composer, the closest I can come to Perlis's unquestioned masterpiece is Elizabeth Wilson's "Shostakovich: A Life Remembered." But, whereas reading first-hand accounts about Shostakovich's life can often be an exercise in pain, given the circumstances of that life, reading about Charlie's life only seems to bring me joy. I hope it does for you as well.

Bob Zeidler

5.0 out of 5 stars AMAZING COLLECTION OF INTERVIEWS (REGARDING AN AMERICAN GENIUS), July 1, 2009

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This review is from: Charles Ives Remembered: AN ORAL HISTORY (Music in American Life) (Paperback)

This is a wonderful collection of interviews from people that were close to and new Charles Ives well. These interviews are well constructed and organized with a firm commitment from a brilliant author who knows her subject and is very enthused with a strong conviction regarding her craft and her subject. There is a wealth of information in this great book on one of (if not the) greatest American composer's and original talents ever. Mr. Ives Americanism shines through without question or denial at all. He was also an amazing business man, husband and father. Quite the original American character to say the very least. Ive's was composing atonal, multi-layered, multi-subject and chromatic music long before it became the new kid on the block and the in thing to do. He used many different meters (time signatures) combined at the same time as well. His vocal works are a masterpiece and should be enjoyed by music enthusiast's the world over. He was many years ahead of his time and a true pioneering trail blazer for American music as a true art form. This is a must read for all fans of great music, Charles Ives and just pure fantastic and classic literature. Highly recommended.