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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
The Chinese Oricular Classic... from a Western Perspective.,
By Andrea Acailawen (Florida) - See all my reviews
This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
3 1/2 Stars for this translation. This translation of the I-Ching (Yi Jing), a 3000+ year old Chinese divination system, offers more than the ever-so-common literal translation of the famous Chinese text that many of the modern translations boil down to, which is good, and bad. Karcher has relied upon his knowledge of Jung's psychoanalytical methods, and understanding of how the human mind functions, to reveal the I-Ching as a solid and effective psychological tool to unlocking one's own insights. This translation was written to help the individual to connect with his or her inner-self, unlock the creative and reasoning abilities of the mind, and find answers locked deep within. I'll get to my issue with this in a minute. The material covered in the Chapters includes: PART I PART II: PART III Karcher's approach to the I-Ching has its advantages in that it explains the I-Ching with an understanding of how the mind, itself, works, which may be very helpful for the analytical-minded. My issue with this translation is that it is handled from a Western psychological approach, which, in my honest opinion, takes away from the Chinese *philosophy* behind it, and reduces the open-ended, free-flowing nature of the work that allows for multiple-interpretations. So, this is a reasonably good translation, but not a great one. If you are looking for a *logical* approach to understanding the I-Ching, this text certainly wouldn't hurt! It may do well for you. BUT, I would recommend using this text along with another that provides a solid understanding of the Chinese philosophy and thought behind the I-Ching (something sadly lacking in many Western Translations). "The Complete I Ching: The Definitive Translation" by the Taoist Master Alfred Huang is probably the best English translation of the I-Ching available, as it was written by someone who not only truly understands the culture and philosophy of the Chinese Taoists (he's a Taoist from China himself), but has gone to the effort to kept the open-ended feeling and multiple-interpretation nature of the work in tact. Best of luck to you.
9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Masters of the Universe,
By Hakuyu "Ikeda" (Kyoto, Japan) - See all my reviews
This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
This version of the Yi-Ching evidently suits some people. But I have a number of reservations about it. It's strong point is that it consciously taps into a 'Jungian' agenda. Jung's ideas are certainly complementary to aspects of the Yi-Ching. But this 'Jungian' perspective is exaggerated, affecting the way the material is approached. My chief reservation here, is the way the translation was kept semantically vague, in the hope that it would somehow reflect something of the open-ended quality of the Chinese text. In this respect, the authors try - perhaps too hard, to do their readers work for them, unpacking bits of line symbolism piecemeal, without making their intrin- sic connection clear. I suppose this was meant to widen the psychological parameters - presenting a kind of larger 'Rorcharch' ink-blot to look out, as it were. It was an interesting experiment - which has its applicability, but at times, the readings seem needlessly obscure. For example, in
# 7 Shih: The Army - why be so literal, putting 'Left' - when it is clear that 'Left' means to be in 'retreat' - and 'right,' to advance. Again, it seems arbitrary to translate 'chang-tzu' as 'Longer-lived brother' - when it clearly means 'elder-brother' - in contrast to the Ti-tzu, or younger brother. Why this excessive thirst for unpacking detail? - when the primary symbols - from the Chinese point of view, are the 'kua' (i.e. trigram relationships). Although the authors noted the 'inner' and 'outer' trigrams etc., their relevance is almost displaced, by the focus on breaking down line texts. When it comes to a 'Jungian' type approach to the Yi-Ching, I don't think anyone has bettered Carol Anthony's books -summing up the archetypal situations reflected in the kua/hexagrams, without all this semantic obfuscation. @
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
inscrutable yet strikingly direct,
This review is from: I Ching (Hardcover)
The I Ching is a tool, or a formalized framework, for accessing your own intuition. Most versions of it have commentaries that lead you through the meaning of your answer in a very friendly and accessible way. This book takes a different approach: It leaves the original text in a verse form adhering as closely as possible to the Chinese original, word-for-word. Then it gives a range of possible meanings for each word from the verse. The result is something less verbose, and more directly reaching my feelings and intuitions -- which has allowed me, over the years, to get far more out of the I Ching, as a bold and clear window into life, than I might have otherwise had.
I have the hardbound edition, and have been using it since it came out -- about ten years ago I even had to have it rebound. It's fantastic, and an esthetically pleasing book as well. Its only shortcoming is that it doesn't use the newer pinyin system of transcribing Chinese words.
3 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The whole package listed is a work-together package,
By A Customer
This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
I have used together all of the listed books, Wilhelm, R.-K., and so on, in a personally directed self-development program for my current life-cylce, i.e., middle-aged and in Crisis, haha, {who among you has not hit the Turning Point and had to examine your life to date and what you wanted to do with what you have left?} and have found that by referrring back and forth to interpret the hexagrams I get, I have "grown up" quite a bit.
4 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
most readable,
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This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
The most readable of the translations I've used. My friends ordered it after they saw my copy.
2 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
the best text i'v used ever on the subject - digestive!!!,
By A Customer
This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
i have used the chou for years - but since 1995 - my students, co-users and other practical people concerned - we all share the sheer appreciation of those who can choose and understand. nevertheless, beginners must be led some way a-head.
0 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent,
By Eniale "Eniale" (Los Angeles, California) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
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2 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Best I-Ching translation,
By A Customer
This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
Is the best translation i have worked with. As is very difficult would be better to accompany it with a more traditional translation. I would appreciate now a smaller version which puts all terms translated together (as a vocabolary) after the text to minimize redundancy
2 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
the best i ching out there,
By trygve johnson (scottsdale, az USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
i love it, it is far superior to any other i ching i've ever looked at. my friends are constantly asking to borrow it because their i ching's suck. i use it all the time.
2 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
PRACTICAL, CONCLUSIVE,NON-"MYSTICAL" AND EXACT,
By A Customer
This review is from: I Ching: The Classic Chinese Oracle of Change : The First Complete Translation With Concordance (Paperback)
An exelent translation! It is the freedom of mind and choise encorporated here that is important: Keeping one's symbolic patterns autonomous in growth when useing the text is an oppurtunity of mind-enhansment in tactic/stategic action on one hand, while keeping a critical-historical bottumline on the other. even with scarce chinese (if at all) background but whit just some phylological trainning in the Classics and Hebrew and judeo-christian culture, and as an eager practical-western-modern "divinator" - I'VE FOUND THE USE OF THIS BOOK A GUIDE IN WIDDEING THE HORIZONS OF MY INSIGHTS EVEN AS A TEACHER AND CONSULTANT IN OTHER AREAS OF SYNCHRONISTIC PRACTICE (SUCH AS ASTROLOGY). IT SHOULD BE A MUST FOR ANYONE PLANNING A PROJECT OF TRANSLATION OR EXCHANGE OF CULTURAL CANONS ONTO A UNIVERSAL ARENA. Nevertheless, The most blessed of Barriers, the one of NON-DETERMINIZM present therein, ENTAILING A GREAT DEAL OF PRACTICE IN ANNIHILATING "DEAD-END UNDRSTANDING" OF THE TEXT. Thus, it could take some time until this book is regarded as it should be: A UNIVERSAL SOLUTION FOR AN ALMOST "RELIGIOUS" CANON. READ AND USE GRADUALY; COMPARE IT WITH ANY OTHER TRANSLATION IN THE PROCESS. YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF TRANSFORMED! |
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