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4.0 out of 5 stars
Introducing "Eco-zilla ", September 1, 2005
Current rage of the internet watch forums - coined a nickname - the Citizen "Eco-zilla" - now taking the watch collector world by storm. A solar powered dive watch with its own zip code!
Ok - ok - when it comes to dive watches - size does matter. Don't wanna' be caught with a puny 40mm Rolex diver? Shamed by a 44mm Breitling or TAG? Want to look like a DIVER? Make no mistake - this watch is a MONSTER - 5/8" thick - 46mm case - 51mm if one includes the crown - puts other collectable diver watches to shame. BIG and bold with a massive stainess steel bracelet- enough blue lume in the hands and off the attractive black dial to light a city block. What more could a diver ask for? Well, how about 1000 ft water resistance? Oh brother!
Let's take a tour of this big chunk of real estate: this brute is THICK - sits on some wrists like a wall clock - the weight is bearable - one can get used to it. Petite ladies and men with thin wrist diameters may have problems keeping the watch from shifting around the wrist with the stainless bracelet that is too loosely sized. Recommend an adjustable neoprene strap model with a deployment clasp for these folks. Screw down crown - massive stainless steel bezel - solid bracelet links around the brushed stainless steel case. A mixed gas (valve) diver (for serious depth)- double clasp on the bracelet- wetsuit deployment clasp - solar powered - 5 to 6 month power reserve on a full charge. OHMY GOSH will be your response when you open the box.
Things to consider:
NOT a dress watch - Wearing a long sleeve dress shirt. Not with this watch. Need to be a pirate to fit it under your cuff! Better with short sleeves - no sleeves - wetsuit, bathing suit, birthday suit (j/k) or golf shirt for land lubbers!
The solar powered quartz movement may dampen the enthusiam of watch collectors who treasure automatic mechanical movements. As a solar powered timepiece - you can do your bit to save the environment. Read about the power system and impress your eco-friends! Should never need a replacement battery - as the "capacitor/battery" holds the solar generated charge.
Eco-zillas' crystal of 6mm (thick!!!) mineral glass will be more prone to scratching than a more expensive (and desirable) sapphire cyrstal - unidirectional bezel will offer the mineral glass watch face some protection however.
For left handers - the watch has a crown on the left side - right handers may wish to ponder a watch crown digging into the flesh of your left wrist. Lefties who wear it on right wrist will be in heaven.
Do you want one? Do you like to have people staring at your watch? "Are you a diver"? Really? Right! Say anything you want - no shame in just liking a massive piece of stainless steel on the wrist. Mostly damage proof - an indestructable timepiece for the diver, adventurer, sportsman or hunter. You cannot hurt this watch! Needs no "break in" period as does a auto mechanical diver - give it a full charge - clomp it on the wetsuit - and off we go!
Short of buying a "Russian Diver" you cannot buy a larger, and more attractive dive watch.
Citizen dealers offer a 5 year warranty. Great value for a HUGE Stainless Steel Diving Watch. Can't go wrong - no way - no how - if you love this watch - BUY IT!!!
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15 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
This watch does not have a Helium valve, July 18, 2006
This review is from: Citizen Men's BJ8050-59E Eco-Drive Professional Diver Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch (Watch)
For some reason most of the descriptions of this watch talk about Helium gas release. This watch, unlike the discontinued automatic one which did have an He valve, does not. It may be helium safe (I am not sure), but it DOES NOT have a valve. The watch states "for mixed gas diving", which is merely the mixed gas the diver breathes. Duh. Helium safe is needed for about .00001% of divers who are professional divers who must live in a helium dome under the ocean for long periods to avoid constantly decompressing. They live in pressurized Helium rich environment and that is how the Helium enters the watch. the He gas molecules can enter the watch through the seals. During decomp in this dry environment if the crown isn't unscrewed the Helium gas expands and can make the crystal explode. That is why these divers need to unscrew their crown or have a Helium valve on the watch. Regular recreation divers would never encounter this. The people who wrote the marketing hype review were ignorant. Mixed gas diving is just a fancy way of saying that this watch is good for SCUBA diving. You can engineer a watch to not need a valve, if the watch is constructed specifically so that Helium molecules cannot enter the watch. Is this one like that? I do not know. Again, only a professional saturation diver would ever need this feature anyway. Its more a bragging right, kind of like "my watch can go deeper than yours". (even if we only enter a 3 foot kiddy pool) I had a guy say that to me once. My watch at the time was rated for 200m and his 300m. I told him the ill fated Russian submarine Kursk sank in about 100m of water and they couldn't rescue the crew, so what's your point? Food for thought.
Well, the bracelet model can't go over a wetsuit without an extension which almost every bracelet bound dive watch should have, but if you don't wear a wetsuit or just want a big thick tough watertight watch then that is fine. I don't dive but wear dive watches all the time. It's like driving an SUV to the grocery store. Many of us do it. ;-)
The crystal is thick mineral and the watch is steel, and HEAVY. While mineral crystal scratches easily, the bezel protects it on this watch, unless you contact it with something long and sharp.
Only one of the rubber strap models comes in Titanium. The description is WRONG. This is a heavy Steel watch. On the bracelet model there also is no wetsuit extension. The bracelet does not have this crucial feature, but the rubber strap models come with strap extensions. The bracelet model cannot take the rubber strap and the rubber strap model cannot take the bracelet. The attachments are differnet. I know I have seen how they differ when apart. Too bad they made them different in this regard as the bracelet model is not suited for wear over the sleeve of a diver wetsuit. They could have remedied this with a <.50 piece of folded sheet metal. (bracelet extender)
Other than that a great watch. Solid, Heavy, ecodrive, quartz accurate yet no battery changes needed. The night time lume glow is great and a nice blue color. This is a great watch for the price asked. Basically Citizen does this by putting their Japanese technology into a Chinese manufactured good. The manufacture is very good. Citizen must oversee the manufacture in China or Hong Kong. (which also is China)
The only issue for some is that the seconds hand doesn't always line up perfectly with the dial second markers. Mine did for about half the dial and not for the other half. Hey, its a sub $300 watch. If you want perfection go buy a $1000.+ Swiss diver. ;-) That is a joke as well because even the most expensive Swiss watches are not perfect, but they usually come with sapphire crystals. ;-)
Citizen's US customer service is top rated bar none. I have dealt with them and their 5 year warranty is the best in the business. Buy a Citizen with CONFIDENCE. The Swiss and even Seiko can take a lesson from Citizen USA.
I have a cousin who owns my old one and he likes it better than his Rolex Submariner because it is more accurate, is tougher, and gives him less trouble overall, and all for little money. (and no, he doesn't dive and he drives his SUV to the grocery store as well)
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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Serious Sized, beautiful watch!, December 6, 2006
This review is from: Citizen Men's BJ8050-59E Eco-Drive Professional Diver Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch (Watch)
This is a large watch- the actual viewing area is around 42mm but with the bezel and outer edge it is around 48mm- but this is paired with the thickness which is seriously sized mates! this watch is beautiful but large and heavy as well- the nice thing is the left placed turner so it doesnt dig into your wrist- but still it is not a watch that is comfortable in the way of a thinner sleeker watch- you will never forget you are wearing it! it performs amazingly with the eco drive you can charge it with the sun or other light and go- the quality is that of a 450-500usd watch for certain and the band is nice- it does not interchange however witht he rubber one- a shame in my mind-
it does appear to be antimagnetic which is nice and a feature usually foiund in pricier BALL watch etc- all told check out the aqualand as well as the calibre 2100 as other options but this one is a keeper for me!
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