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Civil War II: The Coming Breakup Of America

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Thomas Chittum's "Civil War II" is not for the weak minded or squemish. Chittum, a retired special forces veteran and freedom fighter, paints a horrfiying, but probable future for the United States as a nation state.

Chittum starts out by asking the reader to figure out which "tier" you belong to in the new order. If you are a member of the white working class you will immediatly understand what Chittum means. The "International Bureaucratic Elite" are the ones destroying America and creating an empire for their own purposes,power and greed. To do this the white working class must be degraded to third class citizens. This will be done through "racist affimative action",politcal correctness, and outright tyranny. Since whites are the economic and racial backbone of America, they must go.

Chittum further relates how illegal immigration, racial politics, and cowardly and devious politicians , are exploiting the ethnic tensions already present from "multiculturalism" The Mexican "reconquista" of the American Southwest is happening at lightning speed and within 20 years whites will no longer be the majority in those states. A revolution in Mexico is predicted within 15-20 years which will be a spark for a "Aztlan republic" and outright secession. Along with this will come a brutal race war between whites and blacks in the America south.

Chittum draws a map of new America showing the probable breakdown of the new ethnic nations: the Northwest and Midwest a white European nation, the South a black one, and the Southwest hispanic. He also describes how black and hispanic street gangs( the Gangster Disciples of Chicago 50,000 strong) will be the new ethnic militias along with white militias forming for self defense. He reccomends white Americans, when the time comes, form Committees of Correspondence with other white communities for self-defense and cooperation. He also advises any whites living in the South or Southwest to get their affairs in order and move out the Northwest before the shooting starts.

If this books sounds pessimistic, it is. It is also a warning to America and the International Elite who are creating the conditions for this race war: affirmative action, racial politics, blatant discrimination against the majority whites,
destruction of the white working class, gun control, and the feudalisation of society through ethnic "tiering" and annhilation of the Bill of Rights. Chittum predicts this to begin about 2020 or so. He believes ethnic riots in Los Angeles or a city with a large black population during the summer will be the spark. The USA will degenerate into anarchy shortly after this as the Federal government seeks to regain order. Not a pretty picture.

This book is a warning, so prepare yourself.

The topic is very deserving of discussion. Those who try to dismiss it as silly are either closed-minded or uncomfortable about the topic for hidden political reasons. The concept of a turmoil-ridden America is indeed legitimate and possible.

Chittum recognizes that racial identification & racial wars are an absolute. It's not about racial superiority, nor about 'hatred' or lack of interest in one another, it's about differing ideologies and few societies will not dismiss their beliefs without a fight (except perhaps the currently passive white American population). Walk into any multi-ethnic city, look closer beyond just the exotic restaurants and giddy commercialism and you will see there is indeed racial division, businesses and institutions regularly are heavily weighed with one culture and one ideology and those not of the same skin color must always succomb to conformity; neighborhoods are often the same and voting trends are noticeably xenophobic; local-based newspapers especially newsletters also focus on only one or a few very similar races of people and act as political voice (i.e. AsianWeek in San Francisco), and the topics of their discussion are seemingly of antipathy towards other differing cultures and groups and the survival, pride & betterment of their own race. A group culture -- a race -- forms automatically and race-groups do indeed war with each other. Racial conflict and violence based on one race against another is and always has been a fact of life -- different skin colors, different histories, and differing ideologies lead to conflict and war, and this is the reasoning behind Mr. Chittum's literature. The idea that the actual determinant of human collaboration is 'class' or 'wealth' and not race is an absolute hoax -- one need only look at their own workplace or group gathering and ask, "do the various ethnic workers who are all in the same level positions really see eye-to-eye? Can they really let their guard down and speak their minds without hesitation in the same way two people of the same race can?" The answer is obviously "no." Further asking the question "does it usually seem that a conversation between two people of different races is almost always superficial?" Yes. Thus we have the simplest of explanations of human & societal emotions, and when tensions rise which they always do, race-groups war with each other unless one group decides to back down and towards extinction (current white society). Chittum recognizes racial wars far beyond the average person and his book will not let it escape you.

In my opinion America is held together because the white population is remaining politically submissive and being taken advantage of, but compromise will only last so long before the races reach war.

Mr. Chittum is a smart man but his book is not commercial and he is not a fluffy PhD academic -- he doesn't take any sides, he wholly admits for example that whites did indeed drive indians into near extinction until compromise was reached, and his focus is always on the reality of such ruthlessness. Interestingly he discusses almost no contemporary politics (except cleverly how affirmative action would bloom into racial preference and divide many institutions in America such as law enforcement), Bill Clinton's name not mentioned once, and focuses his thesis on: the development and reason of war tensions, some historians and military leaders' explanation for battle, the danger a disorganized Mexico poses, other nations and empires both recent and past and their experiences which coincidently mirrors each others' and how history always does repeat itself. He explains militias, gangs, and guerilla tribes.

I think his reasoning was very fair, I learned that indeed guerilla tribes are much more savage and fight-till-death than 'orderly' government military branches, that our current military bases are designed more for international war and not domestic and are only guarded by a few security guards which could easily be overthrown in the middle of the night by a band of 20 savages who have nothing to lose; furthermore he discusses how he actually witnessed this in Yugoslavia. I agree with him that there is a steady rise of untrained young males in America who would find nihilistic uprising as their only path to happiness, especially as opportunity and economy wither significantly. He does well to explain direct evidence showing even blatant racial division inside the US military.

I was overwhelmed by his incredible command of knowledge of the depth of corruption in Mexico and how it is a disfunctional govenment. I learned well from his section of "Mao-Tse Tung's three conditions for revolution." One must agree that police are often biased towards the majority population in their region and often let crimes go, as well police departments growing towards the same skin color and ideology of the population to the point of corruption, all learned from reading Mr. Chittum's book that the government will be in a complete bind when at war with it's own citizens because if the government decides to obliterate a large segment of the rebellion they would be viewed negatively, thus increasing political turmoil, but if not using such massive weapons the large uprising would be out of control.

Chittum proposes that America will continue to grow into disorder because of numerous races, immigrants, and ideologies like that of an empire, and unlike the first Civil War which was mainly North-whites against South-whites, the second Civil War will be about races against each other, and against the government.

Mr. Chittum gives numerous checklists to keep 'watch' for, as well as discussion of what regions will experience what. His book is only about 200 pages, is quite unorthodox in nature, and is primarily focused on battle and war related tensions, as he served in the militaries of three different countries, all of them during wartimes. The only problem I have with the book is that he did not discuss how a Civil War 2 will put America at risk of international attack, otherwise it is useful. A real life homework task.

I received a copy of this little paperback as a "loaner" from a friend who wanted my opinion of it. As a professional scientist,I approached this volume as objectively as possible,looking for flaws in reasoning and logical failures. I found none.

I am sure that political "Liberals" and those who choose to be thought"Politically Correct" will uniformly hate this work,since it pretty well dumps on one of their sacred cows:diversity. Mr. Chittum has compiled some pretty interesting statistics on political/social stability in a number of different countries and sets up a model for analysis;i.e. Nation vs. Empire. In a logical sense,one needs to examine the premises that are stated;are they correct or not? If the premises are not flawed and the reasoning sound,then it is pretty hard to dispute the conclusion.

Mr. Chittum's main premise is that the racial demographics of the U.S.A. are changing. Fact or Fiction? The most recent census figures show this a FACT.

Another premise is that as the demographics change,the various groups involved become more polarized and militant. Mr. Chittum publishes an impressive list of racially concious militant groups, and not very many of which are "white-power" groups.

The Conclusion arrived at by the author,based on comparisons with other countries, is that some form of open conflict is inevetible in the future.

I found this book to be very thought-provoking and rather disturbing;I would rather be "disturbed" than blind sided. Ignore this book "at your own risk". Although I do not agree with the author on a few of his suggestions on what to do in preparation for Civil War II, I give him 5 stars for effort and 4 stars for presentation.Highly recommended.

Mr. Chittum's book deserves as wide an audience as possible, but it will not receive it because of the unpleasant feelings it would arouse in the "normally" socialized American. Quite simply, the book points out the obvious: the new immigration of the late 20th century is an importation into the US not of foreign nationals, but of foreign nations. In the past 30 years a number of Hispanics larger than the population of Canada have entered this country. They possess a vast infrastructure of their own, are supported from outside our borders by Latin American governments, and from within by the leftist Washington establishment and by the "conservative" corporate elite which craves their cheap labor. Their avowed goal is to transform America, not to assimilate into it. They are, compared to their white counterparts, shockingly criminal and profligate. In the past few years, for example, they have managed to achieve an illegitimacy rate higher than that of native-born American blacks - which takes some doing. This book's thesis is simple: in an environment where there is no longer an unspoken loyalty to cultural and behavioral norms on a basic level, abstract concepts like adherence to the rule of law and respect for centralized authority will disappear. Mr. Chittum demonstrates how this has already begun to happen. If anything, the passage of time since publication only serves to reinforce his views - recently, for example, the town of Cenizo, TX quasiofficially seceded from the Union and joined Mexico. It abolished English as its official language and declared its denizens immune from federal law. This is directly in keeping with Mr. Chittum's analysis of the coming breakup of the US.

The facts are clearly in support of Mr. Chittum's thesis and he marshals them admirably. Leftist critics can fulminate and rage, calling his book hateful or paranoid or extremist - but they cannot call it factually inaccurate, historically erroneous or poorly reasoned. You will note that the left will make emotional appeals of this kind against the author's thesis - this is because they are unable to make an effective logical argument against it. Note the one piece of mindless liberal drivel below. It supports my point.

Despite Mr. Chittum's excellent analysis of the current situation, I feel he makes far too many assumptions about the future. We can only extrapolate the end result of our current situation by stating an incontrovertible historical fact - no multiethnic society has ever survived. In the short term there are no guarantees as to how long this situation can continue. Mr. Chittum fails to address one important social issue: economics. This is the key driver which will regulate the speed of America's inevitable decline into demographic anarchy. A book which ignores this factor remains in some sense incomplete. Thus the 3 stars.

Author Thomas Chittum has written a scary account of civil war that might break out in America. He has been a soldier of fortune in various conflicts and looks at social events from a military perspective. He has a sweeping knowledge of ethnic conflict and revolutions around the globe and uses such examples of conflict to prove his point that America may soon face an ethnic civil war.

One of his main points is that most countries that are multi-ethnic usually have ethnic-based civil wars. Countries that are almost mono-ethnic do not. He gives examples of such countries. Once a country's majority ethnic group dips below 70 percent serious ethnic troubles begin. He gives warning signs of what these ethnic troubles will be and how they signal a coming civil war.

According to Chittum, America is fast turning into an undemocratic, multi-ethnic empire that is inherently unstable, unlike mono-ethnic nations. The elite upper class intends to break the power of the white working class in America and make them serfs in a multi-ethnic empire by using what he calls "racist" affirmative action, gun confiscation, and uncontrolled immigration and its attendant wage deterioration. He believes that this elite plan to control America in such a way will not work and eventually America will have a civil war.

Chittum shows the areas in which he thinks that the multi-ethnic empire will split into and advises people to go to where their ethnic group will be. He gives other survivalist tips for the coming civil war. He has some great quotes about human nature and the nature of war and has some gallows humor sprinkled throughout the book. The coming civil war will be vicious, he says, given the vast differences between the combatants and inability to give land away peacefully because of the mixing of ethnic groups in the same territory. He says it will be a lot like the war in the Balkans.

Ben Klassen wrote "be suspicious of any idea, never automatically accept anyone on their word." I happen to agree with him. Considering the way Thomas Chittum backs up every fact in Civil War II through it's source in the mass media I can only assume that he encourages suspicion as well.

Mr. Chittum makes several predictions and scenarios, and then explains why he thinks this way through facts and statistics.

If you are unaware of the fact that the urban army known as the "Gangster Disciples" which runs 50,000 men deep and has killed over 1,000 people int the last twenty years, is now funding candidates to run for city council in Chicago... then you NEED to read Civil War II. If you think that the 554,000 police officers in America can save you, when there are 100,000 better armed, better paid and more motivated gang members in the city of LA alone, you need a dope slap.

If you're thinking of moving, Civil War II is an excellent (and possibly the only honest) real estate guide.

If you live somewhere in which you depend upon other people to live or you place your trust in the authorities to live, you should consider moving.

If you think that another Civil War will not effect you, if you think that a fence and a couple of mickey-mouse security guards are sufficient protection for our nation's armories refer to Civil War II.

The military branches of the US will either begin to kill themselves because of ethnic differences or they will segragate troops - proving that their cause is a sham. You will be caught with your pants down, unless you begin thinking like Mr.Chittum. A good head-start would be to put down the beer pick up your wallet and invest the relatively minor $...

If you like Civil War II you should read Ben Klassen's "The White Man's Bible" which you can buy from amazon.com as well. Although it's quite different it is equally as important.

If you are unaware of the fact that the gang/army known as "the Ganster Disciples" which runs 50,000 men deep and has killed over 1,000 people has candidates openly running for city council in Chicago...you need to read Civil War II. Mr. Chittum took that fact from the April 6, 1995 edition of "The New York Times"

Chittum talks about phases of Civil War II: 1. Tribalization, or the undermining of the concept of citizenship. 2. The creeping loss of democracy to private, governmental institutions and international bodies. 3. Gradually falling wages. 4. The slow decay of infrastructure in our cities and the abandonment by Americans and their replacement by minorities wedded to welfare and affirmative action. 5. Growing legal and illegal immigration to transform America into a typical Third World country. 6. Massive drive for gun control to cripple military potential from the working class. 7. Cooperation of the mass media to dumb down the population.

Near the end of the book he makes projections that you can see happening right now:

1.Shrinking hourly wage. 2. More immigrants than Americans. 3. Foreigners hold most Federal Debt. 4. Twenty million Third World slums on our borders known as `colonias'. 5. Manufacturing jobs moved out of the USA making it impossible for us to make or sell anything to the world. 6. Republican and Democratic politicians refusing to deal with the immigration crisis. Worse, both parties aid and abet it. 7. Growing power of advocates of Aztlan or the reconquest of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas by Mexico.

Thomas Chittum has written a fascinating, though in some parts flawed work, that none-the-less deserves serious attention, not merely dissmissive rebuke.

Chittum, a '65 - '67 Vietnam vet, then a mercenary in Rhodesia in the seventies and Croatia through 1992, bases his viewpoint on the fact that "all multi-ethnic empires are innately unstable." He mentions the former USSR which broke up as its Muslim and Asian populations were growing and seeking their own autonomy out from under white Russian rule. He notes, accurately, that the nation state of Russis is now over 80% white Russian.

The problem is that many Americans view any justification of racial or ethnic identity as threatening, when they are, in fact, innately natural...humans are tribal beings. People naturally divide themselves up...religiously, ethnically, etc.

Chittum's experiences in Rhodesia where a brutal, repressive black government has been engaged in a deliberate campaign to eradicate the white farmers of the country, have, no doubt fueled some of his more dire predicitions...and that situation must be looked at dispassionately, the way Chittum does here.

Still, there are a few things that Chittum's premise overlooks about America, for one, our unified culture, our common language (English), coupled with a strong, stable government and a vibrant and diverse economy.

The question is, will these things be maintained if America's demographics continue along their current non-white, largely Third World path?

If whites are reduced to the projected 50% of the population by 2050, will largely Hispanic and black areas seek independence from what they may well perceive as "white rule?"

One thing's for sure, after reading the likely effects of such a Civil conflict, no one in their right mind would look forward to it.

The question left unanswered is, "What can be done to make sure we don't head down the same disastrous path the former USSR took?" Sadly, Chittum never really deals with that question. What he does offer is one frightening potential reality.

"Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America" is both fascinating and disturbing at the same time...and well worth reading.

There's lies, goddam lies, and statistics. However, Tom has it pegged. The probability is very high that this will happen. Now we have the facts in on the NWO from what they did to Serbia, this gives his analysis all the more credence. This book is a must as it is also from the mind of someone very human.

I read through this book in 2 days. It was both interesting and intelligenly written. Unlike many other books that discuss such subjects, this one is very well refferenced.

Plus, unlike many others who discuss this subject, the author is not one of those really extreme right wingers who hates everyone thats not white or something like that. He does not toss out hateful slogans against any race, he merely points out facts. The facts are that no great nation has ever been multi-cultural and stayed together without brutal enforcement of "equality" by the government-such as happened in the former U.S.S.R., or as probably will happen here to some extent. We aren't all going to just "get along". The establishment keeps pushing multi-culturalism more and more, thinking it will somehow help matters. Yet things just keep getting worse and worse. The main opposing philosophy to books like these is that they don't sound nice. But the critics of such literature canno attack it with logical or substansiated arguements, so instead, they just shut their ears and eyes and yell "racist! Exremist! Hate monger!". Well, I think this book is correct in showing how the liberal establishment will someday have to open their eyes and face reality. I would like it if a multi-cultural society could succeed, but its not, it never has, and probably never will. This book helps to elaborate on the factors of such things rather well.

However, the problems with this cannot be ignored.

First off, he completely fails to adress the situation in the Northwest. This place is ripe with militias and right-wingers, it will surely become an area of great conflict when Civil War II breaks out. Yet the author does not speak at all of this.

Secondly, while reading his book, I came away with the feeling that he over-hyped certain things. For example, he claims that black revolts and mass riots in the South will turn into small wars that will be equally as large as those which will happen in the Southwest. This is somewhat ridiculous. Blacks are not increasing in numbers anywhere near as much as hispanics, nor do they show many of the militant signs of "taking back" the South as hispanics seem to show in the Southwest. Also, I think the estimated time of Civil War II's ignition is a little early. This book seems to put forth the overall claim that it will happen in 50 years or less. I suppose you have to give all those out there who are waiting eagerly for everything to collapse (the para-military extremist types) a reason to buy the book; so that they can get excited about a SOON to come all out war. However, I'd say that Civil War II won't break out for another 40-70 years.

All in all, despite the flaws, this is still an excellent book, and well worth the price. If you have an open mind, you won't regret buying it.