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Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems, 4th Edition [Hardcover]

Jerry B. Marion , Stephen T. Thornton
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January 17, 1995 0030973023 978-0030973024 4th
This best-selling classical mechanics text, written for the advanced undergraduate course, provides a complete account of the classical mechanics of particles, systems of particles, and rigid bodies. The author makes extensive use of vector calculus to explore topics and also includes the Langrangian formulation of mechanics. Modern notation and terminology are used throughout in support of the text's objective: to facilitate the transition to the quantum theory of physics. Features: * Many numerical calculation examples and end-of-chapter problems clearly demonstrate how to set-up and work out problems, and enhance mathematics training for physics majors. * To reinforce previously learned material, the author has based the text on Newtonian mechanics. * Ongoing emphasis is placed on mathematics with the introduction of new mathematical techniques whenever possible and ample opportunities to practice these techniques. * Chaos, a topic not generally available in comparable texts, is introduced in Chapter 4. * The author focuses on connections to modern physics keeping in mind student needs for learning quantum mechanics and relativity. New to this edition: * New Chapter 4 provides new chaos materials and expands on the nonlinear material in the third edition. * This edition features additional numerical calculation examples, a revision based largely on comments from instructors and students who used the previous edition. The use of abundant numerical calculation examples distinguishes this text from others currently available.


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  • Hardcover: 638 pages
  • Publisher: Saunders College Publications; 4th edition (January 17, 1995)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0030973023
  • ISBN-13: 978-0030973024
  • Product Dimensions: 9.4 x 6.4 x 1.3 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 2.2 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 2.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (39 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #48,887 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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13 of 15 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Dynamics newbies will need a supplementary text... January 23, 2002
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
Pros:
The Hamiltonian and Lagrangian sections were well-explained.
Good intro to mathematical formalism/style used in higher level courses. Notation a little clunky though. No use whining about the Math; just get used to it if you want your degree and graduate school.
Problems were interesting & challenging, but will kill newbies... more on that below.
Cons:
The other sections were so-so. Very often I could not see the forest for the trees. Initiates need some kind of context/background to fit the various topics together and with what they already know.
It's not readily obvious that intuition is just as important as analysis in Dynamics problem-solving--no advice given in this respect. Caused me to use up too much time trying to crack a problem when my approach was unsuitable in the first place.
Examples did not help in solving the problems; often felt like I was thrown into the deep end of the pool before I could swim.
Try Schaum's Outlines, Landau, Goldstein as well. Feynmann's Lectures give some background.
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19 of 25 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars No fuss over mathematical formalism here! June 30, 2000
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
Why is everyone complaining about the mathematical formalism in this text? While perhaps such formalism requires a certain level of mathematical maturity on the part of the reader, it does *not* detract from pedagogy. In my opinion, it is better to become used to such formalism in the context of classical dynamics, where intuition can be of great help, than later on, and please, calculus and linear algebra is all that's required! It's not *that* formal!
I'd also like to say that the Hamiltonian and Lagrangian sections present one of the more lucid explanations that I have seen.
Finally, no, the author does not give you an example problem and then ask you to do the same problem with different numbers at the end of the chapter--he assumes you could do that. If you can't read a book that doesn't have such trivial problems for you to work, perhaps you should go elsewhere. The problems in this book are often challenging, and require you to extrapolate from the previous chapters. I find such problems more interesting than ones that require you to only look back in the chapter, grab two equations, eliminate one variable, and then plug in numbers. I'm not sure why everyone has jumped on the "the problems aren't worded well" bandwagon either, as I have encountered very little ambiguity throughout this book. If you want to master classical dynamics, this isn't the only book you'll want to work through, but it certainly should be on your list.
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10 of 13 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars If I already knew the material it wouldn't be so bad. October 5, 1999
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
I'm taking physics 105 at UC Berkeley and we're using Marion and Thornton in my class. I like using the book as a reference, but I think that each chapter does a poor job of explaining how to solve the problems that appear in the end of each chapter. There are also very few simple problems in the book that allow one to become used to using new methods (like hamiltonian mechanics, and the use of lagrangians) before using them to solve difficult problems. I would reccommend another mechanics book such as "Mechanics" by Landau and Lifschitz or "Mechanics" by Symon. Unless you have an excellent instructor, Marion and Thronton is not very much fun to use.
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars WHY IS THIS TEXT SO WIDELY USED? September 2, 1999
By A Customer
Format:Hardcover
I had to use this poorly written, overpriced book for my course at Cal State L.A. There are insufficient examples, some of which are confusing, and the binding seems to have been deliberately designed to fall apart after a few months (to limit the used market?). The problems sets are sorely lacking in imagination and, as others have noted, poorly worded. I would recommend the Schaum's outline in theoretical mechanics by Murray Spiegel. It is inexpensive and contains a wealth of good examples. When you finally get to sell back Marion at the end of the course , you will still have a good reference on intermediate mechanics and won't feel as bad about the money you lost on M&T.
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7 of 9 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars such a schism! May 21, 2003
Format:Hardcover
i agree to a lesser or greater extent with many of the polar opinions expressed here. my professors, despite their continued use of the book, have a bit of distaste for it. they claim previous editions were better. i cannot attest to the quality of the earlier editions, but i can say that the current one is not a very good text. but i will concur with the others in that the book does a fantastic job of explaining lagrangian and hamiltonian dynamics.
the downside is that this was the only portion i fully understood after leaving my mechanics class. a research seminar on gravitational lensing would give me a second swing at the central-force motion chapter, which i did, in all honesty, find easier to read the second time around.
i believe a second look at many of the sections would prove to be very helpful to those that are troubled. one thing in M&T, however, is simply egregious: the problems are sloppy, poorly described, and overly complicated. if the goal is to achieve a better understanding of the material, these questions fail miserably. good exercises are lost amidst mathematics that are overly troublesome to really be useful.
having a course that discusses mathematical methods in physics before diving into this book is a great idea. i used potter and goldberg's "mathematical methods" and found it to be a very useful text, both as a teaching device and as a reference. combined with marion's text, i feel that one could certainly wade through classical mechanics.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The most comprehensive and useful classical mechanics book for non...
I have to say this is the most comprehensive classical mechanics book I had. Students and professor with affinities with theoretical physics may find this book superficial. Read more
Published 6 months ago by Cesar Luiz Da Silva
5.0 out of 5 stars Best book for classical mechanics
Well organized and clear book. Problems in each chapter are logic and very good for reviewing knowledge. I strongly recommend you to buy this .
Published 14 months ago by Phan Anh
5.0 out of 5 stars Great time delivery!
I ordered the book as a gift for a relative, it was a last minute thing, and I was flying in a few days. Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars Classical Dynamics of particles and systems
Book arrived in slightly lower condition than I expected. Other than that a good experience, would buy from same vender again.
Published on April 27, 2011 by dbrandenburg
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Intermediate book
This is an excellent mechanics book for the intermediate step between introductory mechanics like Haliday and Resnick or Young and advanced mechanics like Goldstein. Read more
Published on April 2, 2009 by athen not
1.0 out of 5 stars Utterly disgraceful! May be the worst in the physics canon.
(Disclaimer: All my criticisms are directed against Stephen Thornton, who prepared this edition when Marion died. I haven't seriously examined the earlier editions. Read more
Published on July 31, 2003
5.0 out of 5 stars Great book
This book is great for advanced undergrad mechanics. I used it first time through and thought it wonderful. Read more
Published on July 21, 2003
5.0 out of 5 stars Very Good Book
This is a good intermediate mechanics book for an upper level undergraduate physics course. One must have mastered Introductory Physics 1&2, Calculus 1,2&3, Differential... Read more
Published on June 25, 2003
1.0 out of 5 stars An awful text
I had the misfortune of taking a class that used this book. This book contains piles of mathematical expressions barely any of which are adequatelly explained. Read more
Published on April 20, 2003 by Mikas Remeika
5.0 out of 5 stars Saved my life
Take no notice of the tripe written below about this book. Having missed taking my school's graduate course in classical mechanics due to arriving late in the year, I was... Read more
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