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152 of 155 people found the following review helpful:
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Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student,
By Ouida MacGregor (Santa Fe NM) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
For 35 years I have guarded with my life, my copy of Edward Corbett's book, Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student, thinking it was out of print. To my delight, when I was about to recommend it for a writing class I was going to teach, I found it on Amazon.com. Since the Back to Basics education movement of the 1970's the fundimentals of logic and expository writing are seldom taught in the public schools, resulting in a generation of adults with marginal communication skills. Edward Corbett's book fills a void, offering serious writers a set of guidelines for reasoned discourse. Corbett reviews rules of logic begining with Aristotle's syllogism, that device which permits the writer to examine the premises of his or her arguments and thus test their logical validity. He further examines the common fallacies of deductive and inductive reasoning, and gives the writer practical exercises to improve his logical skills. Corbett outlines the various approaches a writer might make to win an audience over, explains how to most effectively arrange the material, and suggests methods for selecting the most appropriate style and tone. Readings of classical and modern writers illustrate the principles Corbett presents. In short, this is a serious book for serious writers. It is a book to be treasured, a reference book for a lifetime. Thank heavens it is not out of print!
132 of 137 people found the following review helpful:
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An Excellent Tome,
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This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
Make no mistake. This is a textbook, not a leisurely "how to" book on how to write more creatively. The author is clearly oriented towards the classical rhetorical styles of ancient Greece and Rome, resurrected in the Renaissance, and largely a lost art after the Victorians. Despite the textbook orientation, it is a book the unschooled student of rhetoric can pick up and "study." I emphasize "study." One cannot breeze through this book. And, while many of the issues addressed apply to both writing and speaking, clearly this is a rhetorician's skillbook, not a grammarian's. The book is divided into three parts: Part I develops a strategy for speaking/writing as a cohesive whole; Part II develops the modes of argumentation, particularly the syllogism; and Part III, perhaps the least important in today's universe of knowledge, develops the tropes particular to rhetoric. There are better books on each of these three parts, but no book that incorporates all three any better. Take notes. Study. And you'll be richly rewarded.
89 of 95 people found the following review helpful:
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Principles of Powerful Persuasion,
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This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
Rhetoric has come to be seen as a discipline for frauds and charlatans. It has the connotation of artful trickery and deception. No matter what you may think of rhetoric, you engage in it each and every time you try to prevail upon someone to see things your way. Rhetoric is the art of persuasion. Any artform practiced by mortals can be (and is) misused by unscrupulous villains. Those who decry rhetoric for its susceptibility to misuse overlook this point: Rhetoric, properly understood and applied, is the best defense against misused rhetoric.For a good grounding in the basics of rhetoric, the student need look no farther than this textbook. It is not easy reading, but diligent study will equip the reader well for the tasks of analyzing, defending, and making arguments. The book aims at the written word, but the principles apply as well to the spoken. The book divides itself into six chapters:
49 of 63 people found the following review helpful:
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Not for freshmen,
By Heather Lord (Auburn, AL USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
I bought this book after reading several articles written by Corbett. As a GTA, I hoped it might be useful in teaching freshman composition. Although I found it helpful, it is certainly not written for most of today's college freshmen. Although Corbett uses fairly simple language, the text fails to use principles of document design to present the information effectively. Although this text was originally intended to be used in teaching freshman composition, I do not believe that it will be as useful to me in the classroom as I had hoped. I would not, for example, be able to assign readings from directly from this text and expect my students to grasp the material. Today's college students appear to be far less willing to work to get the information they need from a text, and this text definitely requires work.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
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The path to mastery,
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This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
It took me a while to get round to reading this book properly, its paedagogical heft being somewhat daunting, but I am glad I did so. For a person coming from a technical background, and lacking a classical grounding, it may not even be that clear what classical rhetoric really is. (Unless one has already taken a hobbyist's interest in Aristotelian philosophy or law.) This book will rectify that deficit very effectively, and I daresay it amounts to a full foundational course even for a professional rhetorician.
Rhetoric has tended to come into bad odour in the last century or so, partly because it fell out of favour in teaching for decades, and partly because it has attracted an evil-smelling resonance with politicians in the public mind. What this book makes clear is that rhetoric, in fact, has both an antique and an honourable heritage dating back to Socrates and Cicero and further, and that part of this heritage is the Greeks' search for the Good. To persuade, it is in some degree necessary to lead by example; the man of unimpeachable integrity can better stand before a crowd and ask for their allegiance than the known crook. How are the mighty fallen! It is surprising just what a vocabulary has accumulated around rhetoric, starting with Aristotle's meticulous classifications. There are technical terms for more figures of speech than one might dare to imagine. The creation of material has also benefited from an analytical approach. All of this is covered in the book, which finishes with a fairly thorough review of the history of rhetoric since antiquity. There is also copious study material, including Churchill, Rachel Carson, Madison and the glorious prose of Martin Luther King, who I have come to regard as the master in the modern world of this field. Study these people well, because they have put in the years of effort and achieved transcendance, in many cases truly changing their world with their words. A brief grounding in formal logic is provided, which it is necessary to understand in order to form sound arguments but which does not actually provide many persuasive ones. It is a source of some pain to me as a professional logician, or software engineer, but it has to be admitted that logic does not sway people in arguments. For that, you need rhetoric. I have not done the exercises in the book, and it has to be said that this is not good enough. Style comes with application, and to get the best out of this work one needs to apply oneself assiduously, over a period. I hope to remedy this with time, but having just read it thoroughly now is the time for a review. The exercises include hand-transcription of notable rhetoricians' texts that one might pay them proper attention, analysis of texts and creative writing. This is not an NLP-style, facile "modelling" but a process of hard analyis and development. You need to think about writing and speaking, and you need to keep thinking about them. Rhetors such as Churchill and King invested decades developing their unique voice. If you are up for the work, I would judge that this is an excellent place to get a grounding in rhetoric and to acquire excellence in writing or speaking style. It is probably insufficient in its own right. I would recommend getting lessons on speaking technique or acting if you wish to address crowds, and if you want to be a good writer to read and write about everything you can get your hands on. The best foundation for accomplished rhetoric is a good, liberal education and a sense of curiosity about the world, and the book makes that clear. I might recommend a copy of A Handlist of Rhetorical Terms as a companion to expand your mastery of the rhetorical toolkit. Otherwise this book supplies copious suggestions for source and resource material.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
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A pedagogical tour de force,
By Denis Da Rocha Xavier "Bookish Brazilian Bloke" (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil) - See all my reviews (REAL NAME)
This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
This book is a must-have for all those who wish and need to grasp the essentials of rhetoric and logic. Corbett and Connors allied erudition and teaching experience to guide readers through the maze of terminology and concepts that would elude even the most hard-working, self-taught students. But they practice what they preach: they are clear, simple, thorough and convincing, and they provide you with exercises as well. Now I think I will go back to Sister Miriam Joseph's The Trivium better equiped to understand what she was talking about. Enjoy!
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
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Great introductory text on Rhetoric,
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This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
I'm writing this review as a high schooler who wanted to learn more about this fascinating topic, but was not given the opportunity in school to learn it. I studied rhetoric using a dozen or so books on the topic, with this book as my main staple. The book is 'comprehensive', meaning it covers the basics and the theory, but not the actual application, although a few sections within this book intends to do just that. So if your English teacher is doing a great job on making your essay sound better, you might not want to trouble yourself with 80% of this book's content, although the section on exemplary works and figures of speech may be a great boon to your writing style. Certainly the best way to learn rhetoric is to read exemplary works by many different authors and learn from their different styles. However, if you want to learn rhetoric, but don't know where to begin, I would strongly recomment this book.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
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Classical for modern times,
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This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
This book is filled with commentary on classical understandings of rhetoric. The use of language is shown to be bound in the logical strength of the argument. Critical thinkers, educators, and writers of all genres will find value in these pages.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
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Great book,
By Regmo (Alameda CA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
In spite of the fact that I have a bachelor's degree, I never learned how to write until after college. This book opened up a whole new world to me that I didn't know existed. This book could have been a little better if the author included commentary along with some of the very long essays he used for examples.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
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Nice Indeed,
By A Reader (California USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (Hardcover)
I've looked through so many writing guides, from ones on usage to style to advanced grammar. Finally after a long, long search I stumbled across this one. It's really, really amazing. It presents the methods designed 2000 years ago to transmit the knowledge and experience of any skilled speaker. It works for those of then and those of today.
So check it out. It's pretty straightforward. The only thing is, you still need to practice in speech and in writing. Lord knows the interactive speech part I have had far fewer opportunities than I would need to really grow. Still, the useful abstractions are here. |
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Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student by Edward P. J. Corbett (Hardcover - August 6, 1998)
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