Clouds (Hackett Publishing Co.) [Library Binding]

Aristophanes (Author), Peter Meineck (Author)

Book Description

ISBN-10: 0872205177 | ISBN-13: 978-0872205178 | Publication Date: March 2000

This line-for-line translation of Aristophanes' best-known comedy features an introduction on Old Comedy, and the place of Clouds and Aristophanic comedy within it. Footnotes and more detailed endnotes further distinguished this edition of a play famous for its caricature of Socrates and of the 'new learning'.

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"The translation is straightforward and idiomatic, as well as well-paced and funny. . . Ian Storey's Introduction is perfect for undergraduates." -- Max Nelson, Bryn Mawr Classical Review

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Text: English (translation)
Original Language: Greek

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Product Details

• Library Binding: 160 pages
• Publisher: Hackett Pub Co Inc (March 2000)
• Language: English
• ISBN-10: 0872205177
• ISBN-13: 978-0872205178
• Product Dimensions: 8.5 x 5.8 x 0.6 inches
• Shipping Weight: 9.1 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
• Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (6 customer reviews)
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:

2.0 out of 5 stars Disappointed, December 5, 2010

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This review is from: Aristophanes : Clouds (Translated With Notes and Introduction) (Focus Classical Library) (Paperback)

This book was difficult to read. It was filled with mechanical errors. words were spelled wrong, the grammar was off, and several parts of the book were switched.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Aristophanes attacks Socrates the sophist as a Sophist, May 12, 2004

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This review is from: Aristophanes : Clouds (Translated With Notes and Introduction) (Focus Classical Library) (Paperback)

The legend is that when Aristophanes' comedy "The Clouds" was first performed in Athens in 423 B.C., his target, Socrates, stood throughout the performance so that everyone in the audience was aware that he was there and hearing what was said of him. The portrait of Socrates clearly satirical and most critics consider it to be inaccurate. But Aristophanes is making fun of Athens' renowned "Think-tank" the "Phrontisterion," the school where the rich young men of Athens were taught the fine art of rhetoric. Instead of anything lofty the comic poet suggests the primary purpose of such an education is to be clever and out-reason greedy creditors. This is an especially good translation of the play, which includes insightful notes and essays on both Old Comedy and the Theater of Dionysus that helps readers understand the conventions of staged comedy at the time of Aristophanes.

In this comedy Socrates is consulted by an old rogue, Strepsiades (sometimes translated as "Twisterson"), who is upset with the mountain of debts his playboy son Phidippides, who loves fast horses and fast living. Phidippides agrees to go to Socrates' school of logic where he can learn to make a wrong argument sound right. After graduation is able to use the system of "unjust logic" to outwit his father and kick him out of the family home. The Chorus of Clouds comments on the proceedings and in the end the Phrontisterion is burned to the ground by Strepsiades.

The flaw of the play is Aristophanes is trying to satirize the Sophists, who were popularizing a new philosophy that denied the possibility of ever reaching objective truth, he picked the wrong target. The Sophists were mostly teachers who were not native to Athens, such as Isocartes and Gorgias. "Sophist" basically meant teacher, so while Socrates was a "sophist" he was not a "Sophist." Twenty-four years later, when Socrates was condemned to death for "corrupting the youth of Athens," the only accuser he said he could name was a certain "comic poet." For contemporary audiences who are untutored in the traditions of classical Greek philosophy it is easy to see Socrates as the prototype for the absent-minded professor, but historically that is, of course, far from the truth. Ironically, even today, Socrates is still one of the few "sophists" that a contemporary audience would recognize by name if not by reputation.

The version of "The Clouds" that has passed down to us is not the original version, which was defeated by Cratinus' "Wine Flask" at a comedy competition during the Great Dionysia celebrations. We know this is a revised version because the Chorus complains about Aristophanes finishing third in that competition. However, critics assume it is essentially the same play, albeit a more polished version. Once you forgive Aristophanes for his unfair characterization of Socrates, "The Clouds" is a great comedy employing all of his standard tricks of the trade from fantasy and ribaldry to funny songs and obscene words.

8 of 12 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Don't Like Greek Stuff? Read this anyway--you might like it!, December 5, 1998

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This review is from: Clouds (Clarendon Paperbacks) (Paperback)

I'm in a humanities program at the University of Vermont, and this book was like watching "Roseanne" after a marathon of "The McGlocklin Group" (or however one spells that). It's not humoruous in the way that many fine Shakespere funny--Aristoph. actually made me laugh out loud! Read this when you're in the mood for something witty, but not too pretentious.