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The Collapse of Complex Societies (New Studies in Archaeology) [Paperback]

Joseph A. Tainter
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March 30, 1990 052138673X 978-0521386739 1st Paperback Edition, 1990
Political disintegration is a persistent feature of world history. The Collapse of Complex Societies, though written by an archaeologist, will therefore strike a chord throughout the social sciences. Any explanation of societal collapse carries lessons not just for the study of ancient societies, but for the members of all such societies in both the present and future. Dr. Tainter describes nearly two dozen cases of collapse and reviews more than 2000 years of explanations. He then develops a new and far-reaching theory that accounts for collapse among diverse kinds of societies, evaluating his model and clarifying the processes of disintegration by detailed studies of the Roman, Mayan and Chacoan collapses.

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"While the theoretical part of the book is quite remarkable and based on exceptional erudition, I also found the accumulation of the supporting data to be interesting reading . . . The merit of the book is that it is interesting. It modifies some of our views about early states and their collapse mainly by using data. It also shows how archaeology in alliance with social sciences opens the way for a comparative analysis of change in political and other cultural institutions." European Cultural Heritage

"Tainter's is an attractive and compelling thesis of a genre which is nearly extinct among domestic historians." History Today

"This is a lucid and stimulating book. Tainter does provide a framework for organizing and evaluating the evidence of collapse. One of the strengths of his framework is the broadness of its terms of reference...Tainter's model accomodates all levels of complexity and all kinds of evidence, from fiscal policy to the acquisition of raw materials. It deserves to be widely read." Antiquity

"Tainter has provided copious grist for the intellectual mill in this remarkable piece of scholarship. The breadth of its coverage is given order by a model that qualifies, I believe, as one of the covering laws archaeologists have sought. In addition, Old World and New World scholars alike can profit from a reading of this book." P. Nick Kardulias, American Journal of Archaeology

"The Collapse of Complex Societies contains much useful historical and archeological information on empires that have abruptly disappeared." James B. Rule, SUNY, Stony Brook, in Population and Environment

"The book is thought-provoking, engaging, and often witty, and well illustrates the relevancy of classical antiquity to contemporary concerns." Classical World

Book Description

Twenty-four examples of societal collapse help develop a new theory to account for their breakdown. Detailed studies of the Roman, Mayan and Cacoan collapses clarify the processes of disintegration.

Product Details

  • Paperback: 264 pages
  • Publisher: Cambridge University Press; 1st Paperback Edition, 1990 edition (March 30, 1990)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 052138673X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0521386739
  • Product Dimensions: 6.8 x 0.6 x 9.7 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.2 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (42 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #148,683 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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I highly recommend this book which is a much easier read than I expected. sonofasailor  |  7 reviewers made a similar statement
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451 of 454 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating and deeply disturbing May 29, 2004
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Tainter's project here is to articulate his grand unifying theory to explain the strange and disturbing fact that every complex civilisation the world has ever seen has collapsed.

Tainter first elegantly disposes of the usual theories of social decline (disappearance of natural resources, invasions of barbarians, etc). He then lays out his theory of decline: as societies become more complex, the costs of meeting new challenges increase, until there comes a point where extra resources devoted to meeting new challenges produce diminihsing and then negative returns. At this point, societies become less complex (they collapse into smaller societies). For Tainter, social problems are always (ultimately) a problem of recruiting enough energy to "fuel" the increasing social complexity which is necessary to solve ever-newer problems.

Complexity, writes Tainter, describes a variety of characteristics in a number of societies. SOm aspects of complexity include many differentiated social roles, a large class of administrators not involved in the production of primary resources, energy devoted to different kinds of communication, centralised government, etc. Societies become more complex in order to solve problems. Complexity, for Tainter, is quantifiable. Where, for example, the Cherokee natives of the U.S. had about 5,000 cultural artifacts (things ranging from recipes to tools to tents) which were integral to their culture, the Allied troops landing on the Normandy coast in 1944 had about 40,000.

Herein, however, lies the rub. Since, as Tainter writes, the "number of challenges with which the Universe can confront a society is, for practical purposes, infinite," complex societies need to keep on increasing their level of complexity in order to survive new challenges.
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182 of 186 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A Landmark Study in Why Societies Collapse January 22, 2006
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To get an idea of the impact this book has had both among scholars and on the general public one has only to look at its publishing record. It was written by an academic for academics and published by a university press (Cambridge no less) yet it is now in its fourteenth printing since its initial release in 1988.

Tainter argues that human societies exist to solve problems. He looks at a score of societal collapses, focusing on three: Rome, the Maya, and the Chacoan Indians of the American Southwest. As these societies solved problems - food production, security, public works - they became increasingly complex. Complexity however carries with it overhead costs, e.g. administration, maintaining an army, tax collection, infrastructure maintenance, etc. As the society confronts new problems additional complexity is required to solve them. Eventually a point is reached where the overhead costs that are generated result in diminishing returns in terms of effectiveness. The society wastefully expends its resources trying to maintain its bloated condition until it finally collapses into smaller, simpler, more efficient units. (Does this sound like any contemporary societies we know?)

One of the powerful attractions of this book is that, although written by an academic for a scholarly audience, the author is fully aware of his theory's relevance to the future of our own society, comments upon which he reserves for the final chapter. While Tainter states explicitly (writing in 1988) that he does not believe the collapse of our civilization is imminent, in a remarkably candid passage he characterizes the survivalist movement in the U.S. (excluding the lunatic fringe element) as being a rational response to concerns about the viability of our current political system.
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69 of 70 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Scholarly but gripping March 30, 2006
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In contrast to Jered Diamond's "Collapse," this volume does not just focus on one theory of why societies collapse--depletion of natural resources--but presents in summary several different theories. In academic style, Tainter examines the pros and cons of each, offering a cornucopia of references that would be an invaluable source for future research.

While he sees some merit to most theories, one he holds in complete contempt, while another he tends to prefer. Tainter has no patience for "mystical" notions that societies collapse because their moral fiber has degenerated, a theory made famous by Gibbon, Spengler and Toynbee. What he does believe is that complex societies always at some point reach a stage where they become too complex, where the costs to citizens and elites alike begin to outweigh the benefits of keeping the society together. At that point, the society is vulnerable to breaking up.

This is what happened to the Western Roman Empire in the fifth century. The burden of inflation and taxes became so heavy on the populace that even the Italians began to yearn for "liberation" by barbarian tribes. And collapse is not always a bad thing: tribes like the Vandals actually governed their sections of the old empire more effectively.

So, what about us? Because of globalization, any collapse would affect all industrialized countries together. So, the US cannot collapse without either being taken over by a competitor or bringing everyone else down with us. Oil running out might be the end of our era of complexity, an anomaly in human history, but we still have time to make changes that could forestall collapse. Overall, a fresh view of history key to understanding the present.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Essential reading for students of history
As an earth scientist I was immensely impressed with Tainter's work. His quantitative and qualitative analyses of the reasons these societies rose and fell make his book essential... Read more
Published 1 day ago by Charles Corry
3.0 out of 5 stars Content fascinating, printing awful
Executive summary: Content is interesting and well written, but printing is awful. Let me explain.

Chapter 1: I don't understand why people post-collapse would live in... Read more
Published 9 days ago by D. Berleant
5.0 out of 5 stars Critical to the Understanding of the Collapse of Civilizations
It is difficult to emphasize the sheer amount of semantic maps this book helped to connect in my brain. I suspect that most readers of this book will have this experience. Read more
Published 10 days ago by Cat Maclachlan
5.0 out of 5 stars Systematic consideration of why complex societies collapse
This may be the first theoretical treatment of complex society collapse across multiple geographies and ethnicities; certainly it is one of the most well known. Read more
Published 1 month ago by etymologik
4.0 out of 5 stars I am Convinced!
Tainter has done an incredible amount of research to support his thesis that complex societies fail because they ultimately bankrupt the system trying to maintain it in a climate... Read more
Published 1 month ago by Larry Hoffman
1.0 out of 5 stars This an abrivated version of the origional book. Not very readable,...
I have been wanting this book for five plus years. I read part of it in book stores.
I did not want to pay the price. The hard cover is 400 or 500 pages book. Read more
Published 2 months ago by Puri
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Book
This is a compelling account of how societies in the past have collapsed due to increasing complexity. Read more
Published 3 months ago by Roman Nykolyshyn
4.0 out of 5 stars Lots of interesting arguments, but inconclusive
This book was definitely worth the Kindle Price.

The first thing is that the Table of contexts (and index) were beautifully organized so that the reader can go back and... Read more
Published 3 months ago by Lemas Mitchell
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent.
Excellent. How many more words must I write to be polite? Seriously, if one is satisfied
stop with the word requirements!
Published 4 months ago by Brian Glubish
4.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating but not easy reading.
The book is fascinating and I really enjoy the ideas put forth. The analysis is very comprehensive, almost too much so at some times. Read more
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