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9 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Thorough and concise summary of the Chinese challenge,
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This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
_The Coming Conflict with China_ by Richard Bernstein and Ross H. Munro is a relatively brief (at 221 pages) but thorough assessment of the possible threat of and (to a lesser extent) the possible solutions to an emerging China in the early years of the 21st century. While not condemning China in any manner I would describe as hateful or racist and indeed acknowledging that there is a distinct possibility China may one day grow more democratic and develop close ties to the United States in the future, the authors contended that American policy makers need to be aware of the real threat to American vital interests posed by the Chinese, the disparity between stated Chinese goals and actual Chinese policy, and the ineffectiveness if not downright naivety of past American policy dating from the late 1980s, when China and the United States no longer had the Soviet Union as a common enemy and thus no longer had much in the way of common ground on strategic issues. Chinese policy has changed markedly since then thanks to events beginning in the late 1980s, notably with the brutal crackdown of the Tiananmen Square student occupation in 1989 (the Chinese saw this and other actions as a real threat to their Communist Party), the consequences of Mikhail Gorbachev's political reforms (which the Chinese interpreted as diluting the Soviet Communist Party's power and leading to their ousting), and the 1991 Gulf War (a display of very advanced military technology and planning that stunned the Chinese, showing to them how far behind the Americans they were and technology they would have to begin to master in order to achieve territorial goals in the South China Sea and any possible future military actions against Taiwan).
The leadership in China has been working towards a goal of domination over Asia by a four-pronged strategy. First, and foremost, to gain sovereignty and control over Taiwan (the authors described in detail the Chinese naval, air, and army build up in the last decade or so), second, to expand Chinese military presence in and take control of the South China Sea (in large part by annexing small islands and island groups such as the Spratly Islands and Mischief Reef, illustrated in a map in the front of the book), third, to reduce the American military presence in East Asia (particularly if possible on the Korean peninsula, done by encouraging the collapse of North Korea and the reunification of the peninsula under South Korea, ending the need for a large American military presence there), and third, paradoxically, to maintain a high American troop presence in Japan to keep it from rearming and becoming more assertive in international affairs. The latter point is one the authors stressed several times, as the growing power of China will require a more powerful, skilled, and assertive Japanese military, as the Americans alone cannot hope to counterbalance China, to keep Taiwan safe and free, and to keep the sea lanes open (in the face of Chinese dominance in the South China Sea and any possible future actions in the waters around Taiwan such a blockade). In addition to being on the road to becoming a hostile hegemon in Asia - a direct threat to American vital interests, as such a hegemon could coerce American allies, threaten vital trade routes and sea lanes, and counteract or otherwise threaten American military deployments in the region - China is already an economic threat to American economic interests and furthermore is using its unfair trade practices to aid it in its military buildup by amassing large foreign cash reserves and acquiring advanced technology by coercion, deception, theft, or simply strong arm tactics (additionally many companies that do business in the United States are actually owned or are subsidiaries of the People's Liberation Army). China has been added in this endeavor by something the authors called the New China Lobby, a loose organization of businesses, investors, and economic advisors that have a large financial stake in China; eager to do business there, they either follow direct Chinese suggestions and orders or act in ways they generally believe Beijing will like in order to curtail or abolish American policy designed to end Chinese tariff and non-tariff barriers (as well as any linking of economic and regulatory benefits such as Most Favored Nation Status to human right issues within China), and by companies based in our European allies, who China turns to from time to time to punish some American firm for failing to hand over high tech or proprietary technology or for Washington for passing some legislation or making a statement that Beijing disagreed with. Bernstein and Munro stated that the U.S. should have three goals with regards to China, namely to ensure peace in Asia by maintaining a stable balance of power there, to encourage China to become a responsible state committed to non-proliferation, peaceful resolution of disputes, and honest free trade, and third, to induce China to become more democratic and respectful of human rights. To achieve those goals they suggest that Washington push for a 5% annual reduction in the trade-deficit ratio, fully and loudly support all international forums to decry Chinese human rights abuses, and be "cool and correct" but not lavish and celebratory in Chinese-American diplomatic relations (summits should not be "occasions for tyrants to bask in glory"). Americans should be realistic about Tibet, as while there is virtually no chance that it will become an independent country and too much "sentimental nonsense" has been written about some idyllic Tibetan past, Washington should nonetheless maintain a respectful and public relationship with those who represent Tibetan cultural and religious aspirations and as with human rights issues in general unapologetically point out Chinese excesses in that area. Additionally, America should seek to maintain the technological edge it has over China, deter Chinese nuclear buildups, maintain Taiwanese defenses as a credible deterrent, and to encourage and strengthen Japan militarily and politically, ending its internationally abnormal military weakness and "diplomatic pariah-hood."
13 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A realistic look at an uncomforable subject,
By A Customer
This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
As my profession is that of a US Navy officer, I have more than a passing interest in foreign affairs. I spotted this book at the store, and in light of recent world events (i.e. the sentencing of Chinese democracy dissidents to years at hard labor for the Orwellian charge of 'spreading counterrevolutionary information' and the recent sale of missile technology to the Chinese govt) I bought it. It is a definite 'must-read' for anyone with an interest in this area. The authors show how greedy US businessmen, ex-government officials, and Chinese apologists are selling out both the American soldier and American consumer in the name of the quick buck. The authors use the Chinese government's own words to show the enmity held towards the United States, not by the Chinese citizen, but by the Communist ruling elite, intent on ruthlessly crushing any opposition. It is amazing to me that people will refuse to believe that China's leaders will not hesitate to crush a weakened neighbor when daily we see evidence of their complete disregard for the basic rights of their own citizens. If the authors are as right as they appear to be, the scenes seem eerily reminiscent of Europe in the 1930's. The question is, are we going to continue to 'appease' China much like Chamberlain tried to 'appease' Hitler? Or, are we going to find the Churchillian courage to remain firm in the face of evil? This book makes for an excellent, thought-provoking read. I wish that I could make it required reading for every Western military officer and national legislator.
35 of 51 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
It worthes not even one star,
By A Customer
This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Hardcover)
The authors claim that China is an aggressive country seeking hegemony and is going to dominate Asia. Their argument is based on the two biases: 1. ``what is good for America is good for the World", needless to say, it is as absurd as ``what is good for General Motor is good for America". 2. Stealthy change of concept.The authors make the conclusion that China's promise that ``we will never seek hegemony" is suspicious by the following three ``good" reasons (page 53), ``One is that China is now beginning the passage into a new phase of its history what might be called an era of restored national greatness. Two, China is so big and so naturally powerful that it will tend to dominate its region even if it does not intend to do so as a matter of national policy. Three, and most important, China has pursued initiatives and framed strategic goals that belie its claims of modest Third World status." The first two reasons have nothing to do with hegemony unless you substitute ``hegemony" by ``developing and modernization", but has China claimed that ``we will never seek developing and modernization"? Examine the authors' argument we will see that almost all actions taken by China which are set to substantiate the last and the ``mostimportant" reason, turn out to be only normal actions of a ``normal" nation which ``has the sovereign right to determine its security needs and to build the armed forces required to meet those needs." The quoted words and sentences are the authors', see page 171, where the authors accuse that China denies Japan those rights. But the whole book is based on denying China such rights. What is the authors' logic? Only when we apply the ``principle" that ``What is good for America, it is good for the World" then we can understand the hidden logic of the authors. That is, to maintain the status quo in Asia, (the authors assume that is in America's interest), no country is allowed to be strong enough to have the potential to compete with America. So a country as China has no right to develop. A China that using its ``sovereign right to determine its security needs and to build the armed forces required to meet those needs" and to develop its economy is a danger to America's hegemony in Asia, therefore, a danger to the World. But the authors have misidentified America's interest. When a nation like China ``is now beginning the passage into a new phase of its history what might be called an era of restored national greatness", how to protect America's interest? Of course, if America can stop this trend, stop it and continuing enjoy the domination of Asia, and the World. But if China cannot be stopped, which is certainly the case, does where lie America's interest? We only know that conflict is not in interest of any country and basic game theory tells us that the best situation to all sides might be the win-win situation. To justify that China should not have the sovereign right as the authors think that every nation should have, the authors call the help of ideology. The authors delude themselves by claiming that once China becomes a democratic nation, then everything will be OK. But as long as China keeps as one nation (that is, not be divided), democratic or not, it will use its sovereign right to determine its security needs and to build the armed forces required to meet those needs and to develop its economy. Then to cooperate or to conflict? You cannot escape the problem. Examples of some main flaws in the book: 1. Repeat an accusation many times without proof, then finally, the repeating itself is a proof. For example, the authors repeatly state that China's foreign policy is ``irresponsible", ``China's goal is to become the paramount power in Asia", but never give any detail to substantiate them. And by repeating it many times, later the authors just use these claims as facts. 2. Twist facts. For example, to establish that China is aggressive, the authors claim that the dispute about islands in South China Sea is all China's fault, redardless of history. The only reason the authors given is that all those island are farther away from China than other claiming countries. Using distance to judge island's belonging is an absurd concept, one look at the world map will show you how many American islands are actually nearer other countries than America. 3. Paint China as a demon, then whatever a demon does is evil. For the authors, even China's policy of pursuing peaceful coexistence with her neighbours is a threaten to Japan, a designed America ally by the authors. 4. Omit important information. The authors adimit that in all but one regional conflicts of China with its neighbours, China was actually in defensive position. The only exception is the war to Vietnam in 1979. But the authors forget to tell readers that America encouraged China in that war. Finally, it should be pointed out that ``Dongfeng" in Chinese means ``East Wind", not ``East Is Red" as the authors explained on page 76.
11 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
A Pan-American counterpoise to CHINA CAN SAY NO,
By KK (U.S.A.) - See all my reviews
This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Hardcover)
I have read THE COMING CONFLICT WITH CHINA side by side with CHINA CAN SAY NO (in Chinese). (It's far more than a coincidence that the two books were published one after another within a year.) Disturbingly enough, both are masterpieces of demagoguery. Admittedly, inasmuch as I am impressed by the empirical research both Berstein and Munro put into this book, I am exasperated by the way they systematically ignore countervailing evidence in order to sell their "China Threat" pop theory. Both of these two books are meant to rouse nationalistic sentiments, in the one case, American and in the other, Chinese. But THE COMING CONFLICT WITH CHINA is even worse, because in the case of China, they are, understandably, still struggling against postcolonialist forms of domination, but THE COMING CONFLICT WITH CHINA inexcusably advocates and rationalizes a kind of Pan-Americanism in a world that is fast becoming multi-polar, not to mention in a region that has a growing sense of its own identity and independence. Concluding reflections. The world is already fraught with conflicts and violence. We don't need any more of this kind of stuff to generate further distrust, xenophobia and paranoia. Rather, we have to learn to treat each other with equal respect and to resolve our conflicts through reasoned deliberation and dialogue. There is much more to say about this. But that's all for now regarding this book.
14 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Competent, short, but timely treatment of a difficult topic,
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This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
This is not the most scholarly book you will ever read. Let that be said right away. Also, as has been mentioned before, this book takes all of its cues from Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations." However, for any devotees of Huntington's theories (of which I am one) this is an interesting investigation of the one area of the world where the U.S. has the greatest potential for conflict in the near future. Bernstein and Munro write each chapter about what they feel is a potentially important issue concerning U.S.-China relations. However the best, most interesting ones are those regarding Taiwan and the "New China Lobby." Most of you have probabaly never heard of the New China Lobby before and they are undoubtedly happy to hear that. The New China Lobby is in effect an organization of American and Chinese businesses which use their money and power to influence political decisions in the United States and to a much lesser extent in China. The number of despicable actions which have been instigated by this lobby is staggering and you will inevitably shake your head in disgust as you read how spineless many of our politicians are, and how ruthless businesses in both countries are. Many of the actions taken by the U.S. government were done in order to protect American business in China, the best example given by the authors is in regards to the Boeing/Airbus struggle for the Chinese market. Yet there are numerous others which simply smack of greed. If you are interested in reading more evidence of how big business has hijacked American politics the New China Lobby chapter of this book will be of particular interest. The rest of the book is well informed and clearly written. It does not, as other reviewers have implied, treat the Chinese strictly in a stereotypically racist manner. What it does do is attempt to talk about the issues rather than around them. It is also worth mentioning that the chapter on Taiwan is written mostly in a narrative format detailing a possible sequence of events which could lead to American involvement in a conflict in the Taiwan Strait. Lastly, lest you fear that this book is all doom and gloom... fear not. Bernstein and Munro have a mostly positive outlook for the future and sincerely believe that it is more likely we will continue on without any armed conflict, they merely point out the circumstances that might lead to it.
14 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A must read for the 21st century's geo-politcal setting.,
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This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
A well-written and researched book. The authors take a realistic geo-political view of the relationship between China and the United States. Their focus on the regional hegemony that drives China's foreign policy is eye opening. There are definitely problems ahead for the U.S., if for no other reason than this nation's economic investment in the Pacific Rim. But obviously there are other reasons, not the least of which are our security interest with Japan and Taiwan.Perhaps the most intriguing and, clearly, the most troubling assertions from the authors are their detailed explorations of the China Lobby. If true, it is a disaster in the making. The highlights of which can be glimpsed in the Clinton administrations potential betrayal of this nation's security interest. The careless and cavalier manner in which technology has been transferred to the Chinese reflects the unrealistic representation of the Chinese government, their goals, and their interest, as portrayed by this country's most distinguished statesmen acting as a China Lobby. A must read to understand the 21st century's geo-political world.
8 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A realistic if uncomfortable view of US-China relations,
By A Customer
This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
Overall, a well-written, well-researched book. I found it more-or-less balanced, perhaps leaning a bit to the sensationalist side. However, it does open eyes to the ugly realities of China's military expansion and expansionist agenda in the SE Asian region. It also brings to light China's practice of selling weapons of mass destruction to nations which are decidedly not on friendly terms with the US. I certainly recommend an open eyed reading of this text, especially in light of such "can't we all just get along" drivel as "The Great Wall and the Empty Fortress" - the basic premise of such books is foundationally flawed in that it refuses to take into consideration the realities of US-China relations, especially concerning military expansion. Time will tell the truth about China's intentions in SE Asia, but as one who has been in both China and Taiwan in the last 2 years, as one who has had several conversations with citizens of both countries, ! I regard "The Coming Conflict" as a generally realistic book, certainly worth the read. As far as it being just another "China scare" book, if the people who said such things knew what was really happening in China, they might think twice before dismissing such reports.
20 of 31 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
Huntington's children on the march,
This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
Not at all informative, this book seems to have taken its cue from Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" theory: the authors construct a model for the future U.S.-China confrontation that they almost seem to hope will come about. Although nestled in scholarly language and presented as the views of experts on China, most of the argument seems based more on stereotypes and American paranoia than any actual fact. Also annoying is the authors' assumption of the general benignity of U.S. policy in Asia; it never occurs to them to question the designs of U.S. policy-makers and businesses in the region...
27 of 42 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
An Alarmist View of Sino-American Relations,
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This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
I was assigned this book for a class in East Asian-World Politics, so I read it thoroughly and was thoroughly disappointed. The assumptions that this book is based on are fallacious and misguided, and the authors seem to have no understanding of either Chinese political culture or the nature of international relations. To begin with, the book spends most of its time highlighting and exaggerating sources of tension between the two countries, and seems to assume that every tension between two states will inevitably lead to full-scale war. This assumption is sadly mistaken. In fact, the United States and Canada have outstanding disagreements on a number of issues, yet experience close relations and have the longest unguarded border in the world. The book relies mostly on provacative statements made by members of the Chinese Communist Party to support its thesis. It ignores the fact that it is common practice in Chinese politics to speak loudly and negatively about whomever China currently disagrees with. Just because a member of the National People's Congress says war with the United States is inevitable over human rights doesn't mean it will happen. Have the authors ever heard Jesse Helms (or many other senators, for that matter) speak? Note their reluctance to use force to settle the Taiwan issue. The entire book comes off as a heavily-biased college paper on US-Chinese relations. The fact that they use virtually no primary-source material or Chinese-language material not already translated adds to this perception. It appears that the authors decided the hypothesis of the book beforehand, and simply searched for information to support their theory. As flawed and biased a book as I have come across in a long time.
14 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent Study of this topic!,
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This review is from: The Coming Conflict with China (Paperback)
Contrary to what many people here have stated, this is an excellent study of Sino-American Relations. This book uses information from official Chinese sources, history, and other sources to weave a tight and well reasoned thesis about China and China's relation to America. This is well worth reading and buying.
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