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A Course in Miracles and Christianity: A Dialogue [Paperback]

Kenneth Wapnick (Author), W. Norris Clarke (Author)
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May 1, 1995
'The essential characteristic of A Course in Miracles that lies at the core of our differences is that it is a non-dualistic spirituality. Christianity, as Judaism before it, is a dualistic thought system in which God and the world, spirit and matter, co-exist as separate states, both of which are real. Reality is thus seen to be a dimension of opposites as with good and evil in marked distinction from the Course's understanding of reality as being only perfect unity in which there are no opposites.' (Adapted from "Summary and Conclusions") Many students of 'A Course in Miracles' have been tempted to call it the 'Third Testament,' thereby expressing their belief that it represents the same basic theology of the Bible, although in a more "purified," i.e., less ego-dominated, or more spiritually evolved form. Kenneth Wapnick and Rev. W. Norris Clarke, S.J., priest, philosopher, theologian, and Professor Emeritus from Fordham University, engage in this dialogue in order to identify the radical differences, as well as the similarities, between the thought systems of A Course in Miracles and biblical Christianity. Fr. Clarke, a Catholic priest, frames his remarks so as to represent the main theological doctrines of most Protestant churches as well. Reflecting the view of 'A Course in Miracles' that 'a universal theology is impossible, but a universal experience [love] is not only possible but necessary,' The dialogue makes abundantly clear, in the spirit of friends agreeing to disagree, that A Course in Miracles and biblical Christianity reflect entirely different and mutually exclusive theologies that can never be integrated into one coherent spirituality. The dialogue is divided into an Introduction and five chapters: The Origin of the World, Jesus (Nature and Role; The Meaning of the Crucifixion and the Resurrection), The Eucharist, Living in the World, and Summary and Conclusions. The Appendix includes a Glossary, the Nicene Creed, and a summary of the origin and principles of A Course in Miracles.

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About the Author

Kenneth Wapnick, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist and one of the foremost teachers of A Course in Miracles, which he has been working with since 1973, when he joined Dr. Helen Schucman, scribe of the Course, and Dr. William Thetford at the Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center in New York. He has written more than 25 books on the Course, including Love Does Not Condemn, Absence from Felicity: The Story of Helen Schucman and Her Scribing of 'A Course in Miracles,' The Message of 'A Course in Miracles,' and many others. He has also produced over 150 audio and video titles discussing the principles of the Course. He is President and co-founder, with his wife Gloria, of the Foundation for A Course in Miracles in Temecula, California.

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From the Introduction by Kenneth Wapnick:

For approximately 2,000 years, the Bible has had an incredible hold on Western civilization, and has clearly dominated all other forms of religious thought. Moreover, it has exerted the most powerful influence over the course of Western political, economic, social, moral, and artistic history. The reason for such a hold, when one examines the Bible from the perspective of A Course in Miracles, is the clear expression its theology gives to the ego thought system, justifying for its believers their own needs to be special. (By the same token, biblical believers would draw similar conclusions about the Course's current popularity.) Incidentally, for the purposes of this dialogue, the focus was more on the New Testament, although as the discussion will show, the Old and New Testaments together reflect a common theological orientation.

Many students of A Course in Miracles have been tempted to call the Course the "Third Testament," expressing their belief that it represents the same basic theology of the Bible, although in a more "purified" (i.e., less ego-dominated) or more spiritually evolved form. As will be clear from the dialogue between Fr. Clarke and me, this grossly distorts what A Course in Miracles teaches, and is a real disservice to both the Course and the Bible. In fact, the Course and the Bible reflect entirely different and mutually exclusive theologies that can never be integrated into one coherent spirituality.

This crucial difference can be summarized in the statement that for Christians the Bible is the Word of God (Christians differing only to the degree of literalness the various Churches ascribe to it), while from the perspective of A Course in Miracles, the Bible would be seen as just one among many religious documents that reflect the consciousness of the time and culture in which they were written. Based upon the important distinction the Course draws between form and content, the Bible would be understood as merely the form in which a people expressed its view of the world and of God, no different therefore from the works of the great Western poets such as Homer, the Greek tragedians, Dante, Shakespeare, and Goethe, among countless other poets and artists.

The shared content of all inspired works is the desire to express what is true for their authors, regardless of the form of artistic expression in which it comes. Understood from this point of view, Christianity's mistake has been to elevate the Bible's historical and theological statements into absolute truths, no different from a lover of Shakespeare asserting that his great history plays render an accurate account of English history.

Therefore, to attempt such a reconciliation between these two spiritual paths -- A Course in Miracles and traditional Christianity -- must inevitably lead to frustration at best, and severe distortion at worst. Indeed, Fr. Clarke has commented, as I mention at the end of the dialogue, that to speak of the Course as a "correction" for Christianity (as I myself had occasionally spoken of it in the past) is misleading. To correct something implies that you are still retaining the basic framework of what you are correcting. A Course in Miracles, on the other hand, directly refutes the very basis of the Christian faith, leaving nothing on which Christians can base their beliefs.

In summary, therefore, we can conclude that there is no way one can reconcile the God or theology of the Bible with the theology found in A Course in Miracles. Moreover, the figure of Jesus in the Bible is totally incompatible with the Jesus who authored A Course in Miracles. In fact, Jesus himself states in the Course, in obvious reference to the historical images that were drawn from the biblical ones, that bitter idols were made of him "who would be only brother to the world" (C-5.5:7). It is a continual source of amazement -- given the clear distinctions between the biblical and Course figures -- for one to observe how frequently this reconciliation is attempted. In fact, Fr. Clarke makes this observation in the course of the dialogue.

I have frequently made the public comment that one of the most important lessons a student of A Course in Miracles can learn is how to disagree with someone (whether that person be on another spiritual path, or a student of the Course) without it being an attack. In our world of multiplicity, where personal projections and perceptions rule, it is almost impossible for people to agree when it comes to systems of thought, or on almost anything else for that matter. My father in fact used to say about people holding differences of opinion: "That's what makes horse races." It is also what makes the ego's universe, reflecting the original ego thought that the Son is separate and different in kind from his Creator. Jesus himself comments in A Course in Miracles, as I quote below in the dialogue: "A universal theology is impossible, but a universal experience is not only possible but necessary" (C-in.2:5). The universal experience is love, and the dialogue with Fr. Clarke was held in the loving spirit of respecting differences, agreeing to disagree as it were, thus offering an example of differing without judgment or attack.

Therefore, it is our hope that this book will contribute to a better understanding of the thought systems of A Course in Miracles and biblical Christianity. It was neither Fr. Clarke's nor my purpose to debate the clear differences which I identified briefly above, and will be discussed more fully in the dialogue. Rather, our purpose was to state them simply, defining the differences (and similarities where they occur) as clearly as possible. Thus, the spirit in which this dialogue has been entered is also meant to reflect theCourse's view of itself: that it is only one among many thousands of spiritual paths (M-1.4:1-2).For in the end, it is the non-judgmental experience of our oneness with God and His creation,rather than the mere acceptance of A Course in Miracles' theology as opposed to that of anotherspiritual system, that constitutes the aim of the Course's curriculum.


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  • Paperback: 108 pages
  • Publisher: Foundation for a Course in Miracles (May 1, 1995)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0933291183
  • ISBN-13: 978-0933291188
  • Product Dimensions: 8.3 x 5.5 x 0.3 inches
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Kenneth Wapnick, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist and one of the foremost teachers of "A Course in Miracles," which he has been working with since 1973, when he joined Dr. Helen Schucman, scribe of the Course, and Dr. William Thetford at the Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center in New York. He has written more than 25 books on the Course, including "Love Does Not Condemn," "Absence from Felicity: The Story of Helen Schucman and Her Scribing of 'A Course in Miracles,'" "The Message of 'A Course in Miracles,'" and many others. He has also produced over 150 audio and video titles discussing the principles of the Course. He is President and co-founder, with his wife Gloria, of the Foundation for "A Course in Miracles" in Temecula, California. Website: www.facim.org

 

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5.0 out of 5 stars A helpful contrast of two spiritual paths, November 28, 2002
This review is from: A Course in Miracles and Christianity: A Dialogue (Paperback)
A COURSE IN MIRACLES AND CHRISTIANITY: A DIALOGUE is a conversation between Kenneth Wapnick, Ph.D., and W. Norris Clarke, S.J., Ph.D. on the differences between A COURSE IN MIRACLES (a self-study book about spiritual psychotherapy) and Christianity. Such a dialogue is appropriate since A COURSE IN MIRACLES claims Jesus as its author. As the two men make quickly apparent, however, the "Course" and Christianity are mutually exclusive paths.

I found A COURSE IN MIRACLES AND CHRISTIANITY: A DIALOGUE very helpful because I come from a Catholic background, but left Catholicism for the Course. It is interesting that comparing and contrasting these two paths makes their respective positions even more clear and understandable. I learned things in this book about Catholicism that I had not known (it's interesting to note that Mr. Wapnick had, at one time, studied to become a Catholic priest). Another interesting thing is that it is thanks to W. Norris Clarke that Mr. Wapnick no longer describes A COURSE IN MIRACLES as being a "correction" of Catholicism; as Norris notes, in order for the Course to be a correction of Catholicism and Christianity, the Course would have to retain the same basic framework. A COURSE IN MIRACLES contradicts Christianity on almost every count: the Bible says God created the world; A COURSE IN MIRACLES says the world was made by the ego as an attack *on* God (and that God doesn't even know about the world because for God to know about the physical world would be to make it real). The Jesus of A COURSE IN MIRACLES teaches that death, the body, and suffering have no meaning, that there is no sin, and that his name and very identity is ultimately just symbolic (as is everyone else's); the Jesus of the Bible is a very real individual personal identity who teaches that pain is very real and that he suffered and died for our sins.

The extraordinary thing about A COURSE IN MIRACLES AND CHRISTIANITY: A DIALOGUE is that these two men are able to openly state that their paths are mutually exclusive and disagree on about every issue, and yet they never get hostile toward one another. They even come across as friends. The book buyer may be interested to know that A COURSE IN MIRACLES AND CHRISTIANITY: A DIALOGUE is a transcript of a conversation between the two authors (it had originally been intended to be an audio program). The conversation format provides this book with an accessibility that it may not have had otherwise, due to the fact that the theological points tackled are very, very "heady" at times.

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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars explains differences well, February 25, 2009
This review is from: A Course in Miracles and Christianity: A Dialogue (Paperback)
The book is an intelligent discourse between two religious experts. Ken and the priest debate politely on the differences between Catholicism and A Course In Miracles and boy what a difference. Nevertheless they emerge with respect and new found knowledge. Catholicism teaches exclusivity and specialness as well as an angry God.The course teaches that we are all Sons of God and that God is Unconditional love and ultimately there has never been a separation from God. The book is well worth reading.

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16 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Wapnick's theology and Christianity might be a better title., June 23, 2002
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There are some fine things in this book, but also some serious problems. Most of the latter stem from the fact that Clarke seems to have taken what he knows of the Course from Wapnick, in the form of a six-hour workshop. The result is that at times they discuss not so much the differences between Christianity and the Course as between Christianity and the idiosyncratic interpretations which Dr. Wapnick brings to the Course. This tends to make the teachings of the Course and of Christianity seem to differ more than they actually do. Since this suits both of them down to the ground, they are happy with the result, but it needs to be taken with a degree of skepticism.

For instance, they discuss the difference between what the Course says about the origin of the material world and what Christianity says, without acknowledgment that in the so-called Urtext we find a flat-footed statement that the material world was created by God as a means of undoing the separation. The whole question of what the Course actually teaches on this issue is a very difficult one, and hardly something we can oppose to traditional Christian thought quite so readily. Certainly, however, you will not find a collective ego as the creator of the world, since the Course knows nothing of that concept. It does not state that our various selves were created by a process like cellular mitosis, as the supposed "one false self" divided over and over. Rather, the Course teaches that each of us individually is a soul, spirit, or thought directly created by God.

The Course also does not teach that Jesus does not concern himself with our bodies or our behavior, and again, the original dictation proves the opposite to be the case. This supposed difference between Christianity and the Course is simply an aspect of Wapnick's theology, arrived at by a process of reasoning which he gives in this book, and not a teaching of the Course. The Course likewise does not teach that the disciples projected their inner experience of Jesus and thus hallucinated a bodily resurrection-and Dr. Wapnick really ought to know better than this, since he was there when Helen heard her Voice explain that Jesus did appear to them in a body as real as any body ever is.

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