Customer Reviews

Cyborg Gaming Keyboard with Tri-Color Backlighting

5 star:		(30)
4 star:		(13)
3 star:		(5)
2 star:		(7)
1 star:		(19)

 

 

PREFACE

When I decided to replace my old standard Dell keyboard, I opted for an illuminated one. I settled on a choice of three, reading virtually every rating on the Cyborg P17UK and Logitech's G11 & G15 on several sites before finally selecting the Cyborg.

I use the Windows XP- 32 bit operating system. I am not a gamer anymore; but am an extensive user of productivity software and developer of sophisticated macros including using VBA and SQL, especially for MircoSoft Office products. I also use PhotoShop & Corel Draw as well as some audio editing software, and do some web programming with Java and HTML. I am not a touch typist, but no slouch either, and I do a lot of writing. So understand, my recommendations are from this perspective.

RECOMMENDATION:

In my opinion (IMAO), this is a sturdy, high quality board. Like many, I was torn between the G11, G15 and the Cyborg. All are roughly equivalent and, depending upon your needs, will work well. I chose the Cyborg because I didn't need or think the G15's LCD panel useful, and perhaps a bit fragile; and because I'm not impressed with Logitech- ok equipment, but not certainly top-of-the-line. However, you should be satisfied with any of these. I also found the non-gaming boards seem not to be as durable as these three.

The four star rating is based on poor documentation, navigation on the website is somewhat confusing, other reviewers report support problems with Saitek (although I have found this not to be the case), and because I think many will find installation and programming a bit sophisticated- not hard for anyone with any savvy at all, but certainly more difficult than it needs to be. Note Saitek has updated their on-line manuals and software which makes installation much easier and less time consuming.

SPECIFICATIONS:

Quality of Construction: (Excellent)- The Cyborg is made of the same extruded plastic material as most, if not all keyboards. The WASD and arrow keys are aluminum clad for extra wear, and all keys are laser etched.

System Requirements: Windows XP, XP 64-bit or Vista

Dimensions: 21.5" W x 9.5" D x 1.5"H

Connection: one USB 2.0 port

Ports: Microphone, audio, and one USB- all are pass-through; that is, the ports are really extension connectors that plug into your computer

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Keyboard Design: Gaming Series

Illuminated: Yes- white, green, amber, red, & dark red; no blue

Illumination levels: 4- Off, Dim, Medium, Bright, Intense; the specs say only three but perhaps I have a newer model with a brighter intensity

Keys (Number of): 118 (including a standard 104 layout with keypad)

Multimedia Keys: Yes

Internet Keys: No

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Programmable Keys: (Cyborg or "C" keys)

Physical: 12, each with three possible shiftstates: Unshifted, Shift +, and a third shiftstate using one of the "C" keys (instead of Alt+ or Ctrl+) as a state shifter

Virtual: 33 (12 keys x 3 states = 36 less 3 lost for the "C" key used as the third shiftstate shifter)

Program Code: SST (Saitek Smart Technology)
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Cordless/Wireless: No

Mouse Included: No

Warranty Terms: Parts and Labor- 2 years

CONSIDERATIONS:

Installation isn't simple; there will most likely be issues and it will take some time. Note this can be made substantially easier by following the advice provided below.

This keyboard uses a USB port; the on-board port will use a second (but since its pass-through, there's only a net use of 1 port)

The USB version is whatever it is plugged into on the computer (most probably 2.0); Logitech's G11/15 uses 1.1 (much slower)

Keyboard is wider (21.5") than the 18" `standard'; you may want to check your physical space.

Keys are a bit smaller than standard- most notably the Escape & "F" keys-but I don't find this to be a problem at all.

The keys are quiet but not silent- see advice below if you want or need key-click.

This may be a newer model as I have noticed some different features than those listed or mentioned by other reviewers. Certainly the programming software has been updated, much easier to use, and includes a new SST programming help manual.

There are two types of software used by the keyboard: Drivers (there are 4), and the programming software (Optional- used to program the "C" keys).

Programming the "C" keys requires a little knowledge of macros.

The "C" keys are keystroke not, strictly speaking, command programmable keys. However, you can program hotkeys and emulate commands in many cases.

ADVICE:

If you follow the advice below, you should have few problems in installing and using the Cyborg keyboard, at least on the Windows XP Pro 32 bit operating platform.
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After ordering the Cyborg, register for the Saitek online forum [..]. The process will take a day or so as Saitek checks for a legitimate e-mail address and sends you an activation code (they report having porn spamming problems). Registration is free.

Once registered on the forum, download the following:

Updated drivers and software [Beta 2]([..]). Do not install, just save for future installation once you receive your keyboard. Install this updated software instead of that which comes with the keyboard.

The user manual that will come with your new keyboard[..]

A better user manual albeit for a different keyboard (but the setup is essentially the same) that includes a troubleshooting section. [..]

SST (Saitek Smart Technology) Guide if you plan to program the "C" keys [..]
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When installing the keyboard & software:

Disable USB Power Management- refer to [..], Post #1, Solution 1.

Make sure you logged on with administrator's rights or the drivers/software will not install (the manual omits this).

Follow the installation guide precisely- ALL drivers are required (including the "magic mouse"), but you don't need the software unless you are going to program the "C" keys (installation will give you a choice).

Use the newer (Beta 2) version of the software/drivers downloaded previously instead of the CD that comes with the keyboard.

I would advise against a USB/PS2 (keyboard port) adapter since the keyboard needs power from the USB port to operate.

If you want to program commands, download a hotkey manager utility such as EvoKey. I find HotKey Manager from [..] simpler to use (both are freeware).

If the keys are too quiet for you, install a utility that will give them a sound such as Noisy Keyboard (freeware from:[..])

You could use this from your lap, but I'd remove the wrist pad.

RESPONSE TO CRITICISMS:

Be sure to remove the protective clear plastic covering over the touchpad and "C" keys. This isn't mentioned in the manual but should be.

Slippery keys: I haven't noticed my fingers slipping off the keys.

Shoddy workmanship: Sounds to me like a quality control (QC) issue; especially when a customer receives 2 "B" keys and no "V". I have had no hardware issues.

No blue or white light: Mine has white light; is it a deal breaker that there's no blue hue?

Illumination not bright enough: I find it plenty bright, especially on white and light amber. Dark red isn't as intense (but looks meaner), but then it's a dark color. Also, I have four intensities.

Key Wear: This has been reported in several different places; but the keys are extruded plastic and shouldn't wear through any more than wearing the letters off a regular key. One reviewer reports the keys were reengineered in response to this difficulty (I haven't experienced this).

Only 12 Programmable Keys and 36 possible functions: Well, actually only 33 but I can't imagine anyone needing more than that. If you really need 18 physical keys & 54 functions, get the other keyboard.

Gapped Wrist Pad: I don't know why Saitek designed a gap in their wrist pad, but its no problem for me; probably because I learned typing the old way (wrists-up).

Cord to short: its a standard size cord- you could get a USB extension if that's a problem.

Too Pricy: maybe, but its within market prices of competitors and you know this up front.

Overall I am quite happy with this keyboard in comparison with the "new" g15. The keys are easier to press and light up far more brightly than the g15. Being able to change the color scheme in the gaming mode really looks awesome. One point I do not like but most would is that in gaming mode the windows key press is cut from the keyboard meaning even if you have it disabled via your registry you cannot press the windows key which I use for skype, ventrilo and teamspeak. Some may complain of the spacebar but it feels fine except it feels as if it could become a sticky press down the line but overall not a significant problem. I can also press more than 3 keys at once and all the keystrokes will register in comparison with the eclipse 2. Great for gamers and for people who type frequently.

This keyboard is unbelievably cool.

This is a standard US keyboard, with the key layout being familiar to most. The keys are a standard height with a solid feel, as opposed to low profile scissor keys which some say have a faster response. In the end it is a matter of taste. This keyboard responds well, and has a low noise level, which makes for a wonderful typing experience.

This keyboard is bright, even in a well lighted room. Cyborg is unique in the the ability to switch colors, zones and brightness level. Of course, if you like blue, you might want a different keyboard, since blue is not an option.

Having metal keys seems to be a good idea, and while the keys wont break, more of the typing force should transfer itself more easily to the plastic keyboard underneath the keys, which could conceivably cause some damage. Of course, when or if that damage does occur, I will either would have died of old age, or would have bought a new keyboard, so I am not too worried about that.

There are a few nice auxilliary features worth mentioning. The keyboard has a mic/headphone input, and a usb port, which might come in handy for a few folks. The standoffs, or "feet" as I like to call them are the best I have seen on a keyboard, with feet in the front and the back, and the back ones have two levels of height adjustment.

The optional (as in non attached) handrest is an interesting feature. The keyboard without the handrest is almost unusable, since the front of the keyboard has a slope similar to Mount Everest. The handrest itself is very functional, being able to slide it out to two different levels to lay flatter or stick tighter to the keyboard. The problem I have with the handrest (and the reason for the four star rating) is the little gap in the middle. While this makes it look quite cool, your poor right has to suspend itself over this gap, while your left hand types in comfort. You would think this wouldn't make a difference but it does. You can tell by sliding your right hand over to the number pad. It's a big difference.

Now, sure this is a "gaming" keyboard, so the bulk of the handrest is situated around the "gaming" areas of the 'arrow keys' and the 'wasd keys' but certainly even gamers need to type like a regular person every now and then. I think I would have sacrificed the slightly cooler appearance of a "notched" handrest for one that functioned as a handrest should.

Now, there are a few things that could have been improved and might even be considered goofy... like the stupid looking 'cyborg' icon, and the inability to select an entirely 'monochromatic' lighting scheme. While the keyboard itself lights up in the colors you choose, they touch panel at the top stays green and red regardless. While this scheme looks fine in some settings, it increases the gaudiness of a keyboard that already has a striking design, and it would have looked kinda classy to have all red or all green lights as an option.

The cyborg icon makes me feel as if I have bought a control panel to a toy laser gun. To go along with the icon they need a button which spoke something in a mechanical voice if pressed like "Cyborg patrol officer reporting for duty, sir..."

This keyboard might not be the best keyboard for the heavy duty typist. But, if you are looking for something cool looking to go with your cool computer, this keyboard is even cooler than the pictures suggest. Try it out. You're left hand is gunna love it.

As a gamer, I'm pretty hand on 'boards. So when I first heard about this one through a friend of mine, I was rather impressed with the over all look of the thing. For one, I liked the idea of illuminated keys (as I like to play my games in low lighting to let the better half sleep), for two, re-enforced keys made sence, and metal meant it'd be hard for me to do much damage to it (On my wolfclaw board the AWSD had worn off).
As you can imagine, I was pretty excited when it showed up.
It does live up to the hype-however...
The keys are slightly smaller, the interface for programming macros leaves a lot to be desired, and the driver software installed drivers for stuff I don't even own!
Another downside: The lack of a blue color-while not a breaker, most of my system (Fan, general illumination) are blue. Again, not a big deal, but most other illuminated boards (including Saitek's own) have that option. This is merely a personal opinion-it's still a great keyboard.

I've not noticed any stiffness in the space bar as was previously mentioned in a previous review, and the ability to ride several keys at once is a definate plus. While I've only had it a few days, it seems robust and very quiet when typing. Another great thing about this board is that it's a standard size-you won't need to jerry rig anything unlike a few other gamer boards I've had, and the controls for hue, brightness and scheme are very intuitive. In other words, easy enough to figure out w/o the instruction booklet.

All in all, an excellent buy in my opinion. You'd do well to buy this one.

Great keyboard. Paid $59. Gamers and even nongamers will love it. Very stury and nice looking. It is a longer keyboard so if you have a slide out keyboard station you will have to keep your mouse on the tabletop. Not an issue for me since that is where mine is all the time. Just a great keyboard so far.

Four reviewers who gave 2 or less complained about stuff that is puzzling to me and seems either too nitpicky or just plain ignorance on the part of the users. The best one is this:

The sticker that is on the touchpad faceplate is NOT a sticker or faceplate cover guys, its put on there so the interface bezzle does not get scratched during shipping. This is the same type of material they put on watch faces, microwave clock faces, etc. etc. during shipping. It was to be taken off. TWO reviewers had this as a major complaint sayig the plastic covering is coming lose on the touchpad. LOL,LOL

Here are some more puzzling complaints I have seen here by those reviewers.

-"software issues" you may need to update some stuff on your computers to get it to work properly. Again patience and knowledge is required to set it up properly. I had to update one thing and the software let me know what it was. Took 2 minutes.

-"Hard to press spacebar."LOL The spacebar is not hard too press whatsoever. Its perfect. The reviewer who said this either has a brokern keyboard or is not very strong. Its feels no diffrent is regards to pressure used than any other spacebar I have used in the last 25 years.

-"Key lag." There is none that I can see. I am a fast typer and see no lag at all.

-"Unplugging keyboard wipes away memory setup on keyboard." Not for me. I unplugged mine and it worked perfect after. All my color setting were still there.

All in all dont listen to those complaints. Unless you are new to computers (or buying stuff with protective plastic shipping material.LOLOLOLOL)you should have no imediate problems with this keyboard.

I have tried a number of gaming keyboards and currently own a Razer Lycosa, Logitech G-15, I had a G-11 and my favorite by far, this Cyborg Tri-Color. This is my second one as I spilled a cup of coffee on my first. At that time being an admitted electronics junkie who likes trying new things, I decided to try some other gaming keyboards. And purchased first the Lycosa, which to me is a nice keyboard but not for at least an old time gamer (I was playing when graphics did not exist - the old go N, go S, open door type) who possibly due to habit prefer keyboards with a good tactile feel; well spaced keys which you know have been pressed.

While the G-15's keyboard's tactile feel is excellent (the Lycosa is nice but the lack of key travel causes too many mishits so to speak.

So at least in my mind at present for the money this is the best gaming keyboard I have tried based on the tactile feel of the keys, layout and the BEST LIGHTING SYSTEM IN THE BUSINESS. Bottom line you can assign different colors to different areas of the keyboard (I like the WASD keys to stand out as I play at night and I can set all surrounding keys to light up red and the WASD keys a bright green.

After weeks of unreturned emails and being on hold i finally got my first one replaced. The second one went bad just like the first one. Never buying anothr cyborg / mad catz product again.

for 80$ i would exspect to get ore than four months out of each keyboard before it oes bad.

Edit: My opinion has changed, significantly. I have gone through not 1, no 2, but THREE of these keyboards from August 2009 to March 2010. Each one has died. Saitek has "replaced" them, with a keyboard that is worse than the previous each time. The third one stopped working right after 3 days. I will never, ever buy a cheap, PoS saitek product again. And will tell everyone I know the same. If I could give it less than 1 star, I would.


Old obsolete review:
When my old G15 v1 keyboard *cough* died (so I spilled some soda on it.. it should toughen up!), I was heartbroken to look at the newer models of G15. Stationary LCD, color I didn't particularly like, and many less programmable keys. While I never utilized all of them, I liked the option, so I went gaming keyboard hunting.

One review mentioned the placement of the keys, how they're split half and half, and inconvenient. I find it quite the opposite. I use my mobile macros (things to do while moving with the number pad) on the right, and my action macros (stationary) on the left. Yes, I'm a keyboard turner.

It is very comfortable to type with, and while in the dark, very easy to use. Only thing I wish it had was a LCD like the G19 keyboards. But then again, the reason I didn't go with that one, is because it was twice the price, and required another power outlet(or so I read). So, give or take, I give this keyboard 2 thumbs up.

I bought this mostly for the light effects which exceeded my expectations. I use this keyboard for a mixture of light gaming, internet, and general communication which it works very well for. I don't care about gaming macros so I programmed the C-keys for other uses such as doc flip, zoom in and out, and volume controls. The keys have a good solid feel to them that is adequate for everyday use. I don't completely trust the top touch controls for volume and multimedia because they occasionally don't respond which is why I use the C-keys for those features. As far as seeing the lit up keys in the dark, I have tried several keyboards from Saitek, Microsoft and Logitech. This is the only one I can briefly glance at in complete dark and clearly distinguish all of the keys. The software is adequate but you need to read the directions as it is not very intuitive. As I stated I don't use the touch controls. If you're one of those people that get's frustrated and takes it out on the mouse or keyboard this probably would not be a good choice due to the sensitive electronics inside. So that's it, get it for the lights, and understand that this keyboard is limited in other areas.

When I started looking for a new keyboard I was split between this and the Logitech one with the LCD screen (the 100+ dollar one). After reading reviews on both I opted for this as I can just get an external LCD from [...] and make it do whatever I want with some C#. Anyway I've had this keyboard for 3 days now and its absolutely the best keyboard I've ever had. The strange size (21 1/2 inches in width) is a slight problem for my desk but I knew this going into the commitment and doesn't rate me dropping a star. The back light is great, I thought I would use red most as it would match my tower but Green is much better. The keys are so smooth in operation and I don't have the Clack-Clack that my old keyboard had. The "chrome" buttons feel like they will out last my computer. As for the software, after installing it and following the manual that came with the keyboard and some fiddling I had no problem programing the C keys. I'd like to note here the media keys WILL WORK with Winamp. You just have to enable Global Hotkeys in the settings of winamp. The massive hole in the wrist-rest is annoying but I've gotten used to it.

So for those of you that tl;dr; THIS KEYBOARD IS THE BOMB AND YOU SHOULD BUY IT!