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DNA vs. The Book of Mormon [VHS]
 
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DNA vs. The Book of Mormon [VHS]

Thomas W. Murphy , Simon Southerton , Joel P. Kramer  |  VHS Tape
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  • Actors: Thomas W. Murphy, Simon Southerton
  • Directors: Joel P. Kramer
  • Format: Closed-captioned, Color, Full Screen, NTSC
  • Language: English
  • Number of tapes: 1
  • Studio: Living Hope Ministries
  • VHS Release Date: March 1, 2003
  • Run Time: 49 minutes
  • Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (20 customer reviews)
  • ASIN: 0974478709
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5.0 out of 5 stars A Very Important Documentary, March 14, 2010
This review is from: DNA vs. The Book of Mormon (DVD)
This is an excellent presentation of the information related to the Mormon claim that a lost tribe of Israelites are the "principle ancestors" of the Native American peoples. The interview with the former bishop who left the Mormon church after reviewing the DNA evidence against the Mormon powerfully drives home the force of the case against the Book of Mormon. The DVD makes effective use of graphics to describe more difficult points, and it helpfully explains, some of the basic information related to DNA research. I had not realized, for example, that mitochondrial DNA comes from the mother, while the father's DNA has it's own unique fingerprint. I actually wished that there had been a little more scientific detail, but I realize that the producers wanted to stay focused on the main point, which they certainly did. Finally I should mention that several reviewers have claimed that a certain Rod Meldrum has presented evidence refuting this DVD. It is important to note, however, not only that Mr. Meldrum lacks any relevant credentials related to DNA research, but also, his presentation has actually been criticized by LDS apologists at FAIR. If you are willing to listen to a discredited 'researcher' with no training in the field, but not to the many recognized experts in this documentary, you may wish to examine your bias.
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14 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Good science. The other side simply has no weight., January 31, 2010
This review is from: DNA vs. The Book of Mormon (DVD)
Good science. In spite of the protestations by LDS advocates below, this video holds up. The opposition's thin arguments do not.

What is clear from genetics is that Native Americans are not of Jewish origin. Most interestingly, other groups in the world who have claimed descent from diaspora Jews, even when somewhat mixed with local populations (in India, and Ethiopia, for example) do indeed carry those markers. Native Americans, on the otherhand, do not (except the few resulting intermarriage since Colonial times).

One point the video does not cover is that at least into the 1980's, Mormon baptism ritual featured "prophecying" which what tribe of Israel the newly baptized was from...no matter their family background. The were generally informed that they were either of the tribe of Ephriam or the tribe of Menasseh. According to the missionaries I had spoken to at the time (who had checked with their bishop), this was a prophecy regarding literal (not spiritual) familial descent. Likewise, Native American converts in the past were told they were originally Jews. Needless to say, that has not proven out genetically either. I do not know if they have foregone the practice as a result of this embarassing evidence.

It should be remembered that the Bering Strait land bridge disappeared long before the migration of Jews alleged in the Book of Mormon (who supposedly grew to utterly fill the land). So, we should be able to see genetic markers for people of Jewish descent throughout the Native American population. Of course, we do not. Thus trans-Siberian immigration across the Bering Strait (and/or back) does not change do anything to negate the evidence put forth in this video. The Native Americans-are-really-Jews thing (supposed lost tribes of Israel-though all were at Pentecost) was a popular theory in Joseph Smith's time (an American myth mixing 'the noble savage' with Anglo-Israelism of the old world). However, he made it the cornerstone of his new religion.

Of course, any thin excuse will be good enough for people who cannot admit that Joseph Smith's supposed translation of "The Joseph Smith Papyri" (which is just another copy of an Egyptian magical funerary text known as "The Book of the Dead") is a farce which proves him to be a false prophet. --- Smith claimed it was a text written in Abraham's own hand (which would also be difficult because the text was in Egyptian, though Abraham was Chaldean) including the near sacrifice of his son Isaac (which is not at all what the pictograph on the papyri portrays). At any rate, he had a habit of seeing what he wanted to see in anything he thought could justify his new teachings (such as polytheism, "God" was once a man, polygamous marraige in heaven, and that man can become a God over his own world).
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars The book and DVD that fueled the discussion, March 9, 2010
This review is from: DNA vs. The Book of Mormon (DVD)
of whether the history of Native Americans was accurately described in the Book of Mormon from a genetic perspective. When the Book of Mormon was written, in the early 19th century by Joseph Smith, Jr., it was commonly thought that Native Americans were of Jewish descent. Due to the evidence collected as modern science advanced, this idea has been discounted by most but Mormons.

The book that formed the starting point for the discussion is 'Losing a Lost Tribe: Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church' by Simon Southerton (whom the Mormon Church excommunicated for adultry though he says it was because of his work in genetics regarding the Book of Mormon) and this DVD popularized the discussion.

The Mormon Church and mormon organizations (notably the Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies (FARMS) and Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research (FAIR)) have represented the Mormon side of the discussion while a host of traditional Christian anti-cult and apologetic organizations have combined with various non-Mormon scientists and researchers to continue the argument on the side of Southerton.

Emotions run high but the discussion is fascinating. Watch the DVD and read the book.
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