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19 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent analysis of Darwinism
In the first chapters (ch.2-5) Cornilius Hunter discusses some arguments for and against Darwinian evolution. He shows that there are countless of examples of what appears to be design on the biochemical level, that Darwinism doesn't have any idea of how to explain. And when Hunter looks at the positive evidence that is often cited, for example comparative anatomy, he...
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I think it is important to read what dissenters have to say even if their views aren't popular (in the scientific community in this case). So I read the book and found it overall that it presents a pretty weak case that basically can be summed up as "Evolution seems really complex and hard so God must have done it instead".

The author picks out the most...
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19 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent analysis of Darwinism, October 25, 2005
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Anders Nissen (Uppsala, Sweden, Europe) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Darwin's Proof: The Triumph of Religion over Science (Hardcover)
In the first chapters (ch.2-5) Cornilius Hunter discusses some arguments for and against Darwinian evolution. He shows that there are countless of examples of what appears to be design on the biochemical level, that Darwinism doesn't have any idea of how to explain. And when Hunter looks at the positive evidence that is often cited, for example comparative anatomy, he finds that a closer look reveals these evidences to be rather weak and often difficult to explain from the darwinian point of view.

So why is evolution accepted as a "fact"? What gives the evidences their strength as arguments? In chapter 6 Hunter looks at evidence for evolution again, and shows how they are used not as direct evidence for naturalistic evolution, but as indirect evidence: as arguments *against* creation. The argument is "God wouldn't have created this way". In the case of comparative anatomy, the argument is not that it's in accord with the Darwinian predictions (it's not), but that if God created the species separetely, He wouldn't have made them so similar. Hunter shows how evolutionists not only resort at times to this argument, but how it is an underlying assumption in their entire argumentation. And that makes the situation a bit paradoxical, since evolutionists on the one hand claim to be depending solely on the facts of nature and on the other have to assume a certain view of God to make their arguments work. In chapter 7 Hunter shows what kind of God is assumed, and how this concept was nourished in Darwin's times and before. The God of Darwinism is a God whose primary concern is the pleasure of his creation, and who is preferred to be distant rather than having anything to do with the unpleasentness of this world. Hunter goes on to show that the biblical concept of God is quite different in a chapter dealing with God, the nature of creation, and the fall in the Bible. The Bible portrays God as sovereign, creating at His own pleasure, and the things we cannot understand may be due to God as Creator being infinitely superior to us, or to the sin in the world that causes things to be bad. So Darwinists are not only depending on theology to make their arguments work, but on bad theology. (To the Darwinists defence it must be said - as Hunter also notes - that this same bad theology is often accepted in Churches. So Christians should pay special attention to the chapter on the biblical view of God and creation.)

The last two chapters deal with the Intelligent Design (ID) theory, and why it is so strongly opposed, and with design more generally. The problem with ID, says Hunter, is not that it assumes a religios basis for its arguments, but that it argues against the evolutionists religious commitments. Finding examples of design in nature is unacceptable for Darwinism, sonce it goes against their concept of God. In the chapter on design Hunter shows how the designs in nature often follow the same principles as human design (or, it's rather the latter mimicing the former...).

A very clear and insightful book. I recommend it to anyone interested in Darwinism's strengths and weaknesses. And of an alternative view that is both theologically and scientifically superior. As Hunter puts it in the end of the last chapter:
"In Darwinism, religion triumphed over science to the detriment of both. We need to recognize and remedy this situation. Let us now fix our religion and our science." Begin by reading this book, and learn what the situation is!
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32 of 42 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Poof, July 30, 2003
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Dan Schobert (Plover, Wisconsin) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Darwin's Proof: The Triumph of Religion over Science (Hardcover)
PROOF

The campaign against the nonsense of evolutionary thinking continues with a new book. Darwin's Proof by Cornelius G. Hunter has recently been released by Brazos Press, a division of Baker Book House of Grand Rapids. This work is subtitled: "The Triumph of Religion over Science." Hunter is the author of Darwin's God which came out several years ago.

Hunter points out that the evidence so often cited in support of
evolution is not evidence at all. In a way, perhaps the book should be Darwin's Poof! It isn't that evidence isn't presented but when viewed closely, these evidences don't stand up.

The main thrust of this work is to review the historical context into which Charles Darwin appeared. Hunter helps his readers appreciate the various popular ideas of the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries, ideas which made the thoughts of Darwin acceptable. One of these ides is what Hunter calls the paradigm of perfection. It is the thought that God created all things "very good." Since we can see less than perfect things in nature,
it follows that God must not have created. What this amounts to is to create God in our own image and when that image doesn't fit what is thought to exist in nature, this god can be rejected.

The problem here is that those who hold to this view neglect to
understand the effects of the Fall. This failure tends to blame God for imperfections and since God would not do anything less than perfect, He must not be much of a God.

It is an interesting thing, says Hunter, to realize that the idea of evolution, though said to be non religious, actually rests on religion. "Darwinists claim religion plays no role in their theory," he says, "but religion lies at its very foundation. It is the constant thread running
throughout Darwinism. Evolutionists reject a particular religious explanation, but in doing so they proclaim their own religion. Declaring what or how God may not create is just as religious as declaring what or how he does create."

This concept of creating their own God is nothing new among those who would reject the Gospel's message. Hunter takes his readers back to a cross outside Jerusalem. There men taunted Jesus by demanding that `if He is really the savior, He should get down from the cross.' These men had made up their own minds as to what a saviour would look like. They hadn't taken the time to read the scriptures and to understand that the saviour would not be one to rescue them from Roman rule but one who would
lead the way back to God. They could not envision themselves in need of such a savior so they missed the point of what was taking place on that hill.

Much the same thing can be seen occurring in the evolutionary camp. Instead of reading what God has said about things, people have used their tainted imaginations to make up stories about the past and stories about God. In general these have pushed God farther and farther away from any involvement in creation. "Darwinism is really all about God," says
Hunter. "God wouldn't have created this world, say the evolutionists. But Darwinists have a false god in mind."

Hunter concludes this short book, of some 150 pages, by reminding his readers that evolution is a religious idea. "Darwin's theory of evolution," he says, "has had a profound impact on society. Its claim that God is not needed to explain the origin of species has influenced many, and it certainly seems reasonable to say that evolution is
antireligious or atheistic. For example, evolution always opts for naturalistic explanations, no matter how unlikely, rather than admit any possibility of God. ....The problem with this argument is that it misses the historical roots and underlying motivation of Darwinism. The motivation behind Darwinsim is religious, not antireligious, and this makes a tremendous difference in how one understands the theory. Darwinism is the product of a long tradition of religious doctrine.
Though not biblical, this doctrine has always been popular in the church.

This non-Christian thought can be found in many influential figures leading up to Darwin and it remains popular today. It involves a nonbiblical version of God, who is distanced from the world. The divine attributes of wisdom and goodness are emphasized over those of providence, immanence and judgment."

When this is understood, a reader can appreciate how the religion of Darwin has been such a powerful tool to lead men and women away from science into a dark world of myth and imaginations.

The book has several pages of end notes which is a good source for those wishing to do additional study. This work should be read by anyone involved in the Origins issue.

July 2003

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14 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Well thought out critique of Evotheism, November 28, 2004
This review is from: Darwin's Proof: The Triumph of Religion over Science (Hardcover)
Cornelius Hunter does a very good job of describing how Darwinism is truly a naturalistic religion. In debates with Darwinists, I always use the term evotheism and it is extremely effective. Hunter has given me more tools as an apologist.

The strongest part of the book is his discussion of evil and the impact of sin. He forcefully points out that Evotheists use the problem of pain and evil to further their doctrine that no God would have created species that would die out or be subjected to imperfections. Most readers should find his point of view extremely compelling.

My complaint about the book is that it is too short and I felt as if I were always waiting for just a little more information. He really should build a textbook citing examples of how evotheists use specious materials to promote their religion.
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26 of 37 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Evolution: It Isn't Just for Science Anymore, June 13, 2003
This review is from: Darwin's Proof: The Triumph of Religion over Science (Hardcover)
"Darwin's Proof" is the follow-up to Cornelius Hunter's successful first book, "Darwin's God: Evolution and the Problem of Evil" (Brazos Books, 2002). In that book, he exposed the theological underpinnings of the evolutionary argument as put forth by Charles Darwin. According to Hunter, beginning with Darwin, and carried through to the present, runs a strong thread of theological argument. Hunter illuminates that argument in "Darwin's God".

In "Darwin's Proof", Hunter offers several fresh insights and juxtaposes his original ideas against some of the more common arguments and examples that evolutionary Biology uses to defend evolution. In so doing, the strength of Hunter's underlying argument - that at root evolution is built on a theological premise - becomes readily apparent. Indeed, after reading Darwin's Proof, it is difficult to see how to formulate a deductively valid argument that concludes evolution must have occurred without resorting to a theological premise. That insight, drawn from Hunter's obviously in-depth study of both the scientific and theological historical roots and influences of evolution, will add a new and valuable dimension to the ongoing debates regarding the scientific status of both evolution and Intelligent Design.

"Darwin's Proof" is a very readable, understandable, and clear book. Hunter writes in a brisk, crisp style that keeps the reader interested in the material. Thanks to that, there was no place in the book where I felt I had to "scratch my head" to figure out where he was taking his argument. For people not that familiar with this debate, that clarity will be very helpful.

As difficult as it must have been, Hunter managed to keep most of the text jargon free. Introductory readers won't have to scramble to their Oxford Dictionary of Biology in order to figure out what the author is talking about. Where he does use jargon, he manages to clearly describe exactly what the jargon refers to. For example, on pages 72-74 he engages a discussion on pseudogenes making reference to the L-gulono-gamma-lactone oxidase pseudogene. Often books of this nature get jargon laden and those unfamiliar with the territory will have their eyes glaze over when they encounter such terms. Hunter takes the extra pains to explain exactly to what such terms refer, and thus helps his readers appreciate the true nature of his argument. Would that all writers on this subject would take such pains when writing for a popular audience.

There were two fresh insights that I personally found to be especially illuminating. The first was that in establishing the theological arguments used by evolution, he provides several useful counter-arguments based on Biblical theology drawn from several scriptural sources, and not just the book of Genesis. So often, it seems, the argument lies in science versus, not the Biblical view of creation as a whole, but only the book of Genesis. By drawing on several references that go beyond just Genesis, Hunter demonstrates the non-Biblical, non-orthodox theological view that serves as the foundation for the entire evolutionary argument. In so doing, Hunter makes clear his view that evolution is not so much atheism in disguise, as so many have claimed, but a theological heresy in disguise -- a heresy at considerable odds with orthodox Christian theology. This takes much of the starch out the oft heard claim that evolution is "just science".

The second insight that Hunter provides is that, yes indeed, we can admit that there is a mountain of evidence for evolution. However, absent the non-Biblical, non-orthodox theological underpinning of the evolutionary argument, the mountain of evidence not-with-standing, the power of the evidence is greatly reduced if not made outright negligible. In other words, it's not the quantity, but the quality of the evidence. Stripped of the theological foundation, the quality diminishes rapidly. This insight should provide the basis for healthy and fruitful discussions in the ongoing debates in the whole area of origins.

Hunter also added a very useful appendix that includes summaries of the strong and weak arguments for both Darwinism and Creation with appropriate responses and challenges to those arguments. This should prove helpful to those less familiar with the subject as well as provide some good "talking points" for those engaged in ongoing discussions on these matters from opposing points of view.

For those already familiar with the nuances of the ongoing debates between evolution and intelligent design, this book will offer some additional and useful insights. For those not that familiar with the nature of these debates or the subjects at issue, this book offers some good foundational perspectives that can supplement further study. Either way, Hunter has made another positive contribution to the discussion and one that should be taken seriously.

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Lacking, February 19, 2010
This review is from: Darwin's Proof: The Triumph of Religion over Science (Hardcover)
I think it is important to read what dissenters have to say even if their views aren't popular (in the scientific community in this case). So I read the book and found it overall that it presents a pretty weak case that basically can be summed up as "Evolution seems really complex and hard so God must have done it instead".

The author picks out the most difficult parts of evolution and claims "see the odds of this happening are really low therefore it must not have happened" while completely ignoring the evidence that indicates that it did in fact happen. Undoubtably, this will appeal to anyone who hasn't studied the evidence for evolution on their own and to anyone who doesn't want to give it a fair shake to begin with (which I would suspect is the author's intent).

I would challenge anyone who reads this book to also read Why Evolution Is True by Coyne to give yourself a balanced perspective on evolution. At that point you will at least have seen both sides of the argument and can decide for yourself.
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10 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An astutely reasoned Christian scrutiny, November 14, 2003
This review is from: Darwin's Proof: The Triumph of Religion over Science (Hardcover)
Written by Cornelius G. Hunter (a researcher in molecular biophysics), Darwin's Proof: The Triumph Of Religion Over Science is a critical and intelligent dissection of the scientific, philosophical, and theological weaknesses in Darwin's theory of evolution. Studying traditional fundamentalist arguments against evolution, surveying the scientific evidence in favor of evolution, examining the "Intelligent Design" theory, and more, Darwin's Proof offers the reader an astutely reasoned Christian scrutiny of a complex and controversial issue. Also very highly recommended reading in this subject area is Thomas Woodward's Doubts About Darwin: A History Of Intelligent Design (0801064430, $19.99).
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12 of 50 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Sneaky attempt to discredit genuine science!, February 25, 2005
This review is from: Darwin's Proof: The Triumph of Religion over Science (Hardcover)
Embryology is seemingly never tackled in this book. Apparently, author Hunter feels he cannot whip up a doubletalking creationist excuse for why embryos (even those of humans) look quite a bit alike. The book tries a new strategy against evolution. Several.The archaopteryx is not mentioned. Neither is homo erecus or Nebraska Man or Neaderthals. Just lots of confusing double talk. Look all---- we have dna to shw all lifeforms of humans, apes, and other vertebrates are related. Skip doubleatalking crap like this!
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