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Demonic Males: Apes and the Origins of Human Violence [Paperback]

Dale Peterson , Richard Wrangham
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November 14, 1997
Whatever their virtues, men are more violent than women. Why do men kill, rape, and wage war, and what can we do about it? Drawing on the latest discoveries about human evolution and about our closest living relatives, the great apes, Demonic Males offers some startling new answers. Dramatic, vivid, and firmly grounded in meticulous research, this book will change the way you see the world. As the San Francisco Chronicle said, it "dares to dig for the roots of a contentious and complicated subject that makes up much of our daily news."

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If you harbor a sneaking suspicion that men are a herd of ignoble savages, then this book is for you. Authors Wrangham and Peterson will confirm your instincts. It turns out that hyperviolent social behavior is deeply rooted in male human genes and common among our closest male primate relatives. Rapes, beatings and killings are as much a part of life among the great apes as they are among us. The authors try to conclude on some upbeat notes that ring hollow, but their science reveals much about the dark side of human nature. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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Contradicting the common belief that chimpanzees in the wild are gentle creatures, Harvard anthropologist Wrangham and science writer Peterson have witnessed, since 1971, male African chimpanzees carry out rape, border raids, brutal beatings and warfare among rival territorial gangs. In a startling, beautifully written, riveting, provocative inquiry, they suggest that chimpanzee-like violence preceded and paved the way for human warfare?which would make modern humans the dazed survivors of a continuous, five-million-year habit of lethal aggression. They buttress their thesis with an examination of the ubiquitous rape among orangutans, gorilla infanticide and male-initiated violence and hyenas' territorial feuds, drawing parallels to the lethal raiding among the Yanomamo people of Brazil's Amazon forests and other so-called primitive tribes, as well as to modern "civilized" mass slaughter. In their analysis, patriotism ("stripped to its essence... male defense of the community") breeds aggression, yet, from an evolutionary standpoint, they reject the presumed inevitability of male violence and male dominance over women.
Copyright 1996 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

Product Details

  • Paperback: 350 pages
  • Publisher: Mariner Books (November 14, 1997)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0395877431
  • ISBN-13: 978-0395877432
  • Product Dimensions: 5.8 x 0.9 x 8.5 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 14.1 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (39 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #111,625 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Demonic males explains this question well. Shane Levine  |  4 reviewers made a similar statement
Aside from content, this book was written well enough that it became hard to put down at times. Joel Brown  |  8 reviewers made a similar statement
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24 of 24 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars humans are bellicose apes January 22, 2011
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Fact: human males are extremely violent. Fact: our ape relatives are similarly extremely violent. Highly plausible: humans, along with our ape cousins, have a strong evolutionary disposition towards violence. This prospect is troubling, a tough pill for many people to swallow. Yet the data on ape behavior that are beautifully presented in this book, a simple consideration of the savagely violent nature of human history (and prehistory), as well as the many psychological studies that reveal how quickly humans form hostile coalitions (in some studies due to a coin toss), combine to make the idea that humans are evolutionarily violent difficult to ignore. The primate data also strongly challenge the notion that humans are violent because their culture has made them violent. If violence is based on "culture," then why are all the other apes so violent? And why has essentially every human culture ever documented exhibited patriarchy and male violence? The far more parsimonious explanation is that humans have a long evolutionary history of violence in which violent behavior led to reproductive benefits. The pacifists got killed or out-competed by their pugnacious peers.

OK, but why did evolution choose violence? Why was violence necessary? Demonic males explains this question well. There is a broad trend among mammals for males to be the more violent of the two sexes. This is because males can have a gigantic number of offspring. All a male needs to do is have sex. Women, on the other hand, need to grow the child inside them, so their reproductive prospects are much more limited. This leads to ferocious competition between males in the rat-race to reproduce as much as possible. Yet Demonic Males explains that "violence" isn't simply a general purpose behavioral imperative that resides within all apes. Rather, each species of ape (as well as every other violent animal) uses aggression and violence in different ways that are appropriate to its context. Case in point: bonobos. In bonobo societies, females form alliances that effectively stop males from abusing females. The males are still violent, and there is still violence between different groups, yet female alliances have greatly reduced the male violence that rages within and without chimpanzee groups. A similar process has occurred in human history: the advent of democracy. In both instances, power has been diffused from elite individuals to many members of society, which reduces the violence that ape elites inevitably use when there is no effective resistance. In this light, Demonic Males offers hope. Yes, we have a violent nature--but it is not set in stone. Circumstances alter behavior, and humans have the intelligence to alter their circumstances for the better.

I disagree with most of the reviewers that say the authors extrapolate too liberally. In most cases they make sound generalizations. The Emotional Brain by Joseph Ledoux argues that emotional mechanisms are conserved across species. Considering how closely related we are to the other apes, there is definitely a strong case to be made for similar mechanisms creating violence in all the apes. They argue that neither apes nor humans act violently based on conscious calculation. Rather, we apes are guided by powerful emotional mechanisms that are designed to attain and preserve status. When status is threatened, or when it is up for grabs (or punches), the neural gears start turning and apes get violent. These emotions are geared towards achieving reproductive success, regardless of whether we are consciously thinking about reproduction. The authors label this emotion pride. Is pride even an emotion? It is probably a mixture of more elemental emotions, but they make a fine point. The Emotional Brain supports it on every level. The idea that nation states go to war due to pride is a bit more difficult to accept. They cite the Peloponnesian War as an example of this. But Thucydides himself says that fear is what made the war inevitable. I think fear plays an enormous role in large scale warfare as well as smaller acts of aggression. It is surprising that the authors didn't mention that. Nevertheless, this book is extremely insightful, well-written, and engaging. Definitely 5 stars. I recommend reading it in addition to War Before Civilization by Lawrence Keeley, which tells the frighteningly violent story of pre-civilized war.

And as a final note, this book definitely does not engage in "male bashing." The authors explicitly state that women play an essential role in male aggression, that is, by rewarding aggression with reproductive benefits. In some cases the agrressive male forces a woman to copulate, but in many other cases it is the woman who goes after the bad boy. This is so in modern human society, as well as in lion and gorilla groups--albiet in more extreme form--where marauding males who slaughter a female's cute little offspring often succeed in seducing the very same female. Thus, anyone who engages in male bashing simply does not understand the real ethological problem. Males don't consciously choose violence, and females aren't just passive victims of it. There is a larger force at work, which the authors of this book are well aware of. That force, of course, is evolution, which is the ultimate explanation for any act of violence. Luckily, we humans can distance ourselves from evolutionary constraints, but we can never be fully free from those constraints. We can mitigate violence, but, to the dismay of idealists everywhere, we will never eliminate it.
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5.0 out of 5 stars This Book is Epic October 17, 2001
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This is among the best books I have read. I originally heard Wrangham on an NPR show discussing some facets of this book & quickly sought it out. It provides an excellent evolutionary background and discussions of humans' closest relatives- especially our closest, the chimpanzee and bonobo, whose life patterns are distinctly different from one another and provide some insight into human behavior and possibilities. The book is very well-written and highly readable regardless of a reader's background on the topic.
I had to write after reading some of the negative reviews and misinformation on the book- especially the first editorial review. The book is hardly as dark and disillusioning as it leads one to believe- quite the contrary. I finished the book a few months ago and am still pondering it. Highly recommended!
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Ape Within Us October 16, 1998
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Wrangham presents some fundamental insights. Why do female gorillas stay close to their reigning silverback? Because only he can protect their babies from being killed by other silverbacks. Why do adolescent male chimpanzees intimidate every female in their group? So the youngersters will not be refused when it comes time for sex. Why do bonobos, physically similar to chimpanzees, behave in a much less violent manner? Because they evolved in a place where there were no gorillas to preempt an important food source. There are two kinds of male orang-utans, small ones that must rape to reproduce and large one that have no such need. These, and other insights, are carefully reasoned from the most recent field data. Perhaps not all of his explanations of ape behavior will stand the test of time but each of them is interesting and worth further research. The reader, male and female, is challenged into introspection: how much of the modern apes lies within our modern selves?
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5.0 out of 5 stars Enough monkeying around, lets talk theory
I originally purchased this book after reading Richard Wrangham's "Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human" and was so impressed with the overall experience that i had to explore... Read more
Published 3 months ago by BruceB33
5.0 out of 5 stars Outstanding work.
Brilliant research and honest compilation of facts, answering many crucial and seemingly puzzling questions. Very pleased to have found this book.
Published on May 17, 2011 by L. Robertson
3.0 out of 5 stars Too many leaps in the wrong direction
I have to admit having picked up this book with reluctance, having read quite a few articles and papers by Wrangham that betrayed a mind all too eager to make huge assumptions... Read more
Published on February 20, 2011 by Carmi Turchick
4.0 out of 5 stars Readable and packed with useful information, with feminist Utopian...
So many "scientific" books about people written for a general audience turn out to be ideological propaganda with a sprinkle of "science. Read more
Published on February 11, 2011 by Jack Donovan
5.0 out of 5 stars A celebration of evolution, if you really think about it
This book describes behaviors that appear in most mammalian species- dominance hierarchies, sexual rivalry, threat displays, alliance building, and violence toward males, females... Read more
Published on February 3, 2011 by Loretta G. Breuning
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This book may change your mind about your friends and family. It is not user friendly but rather a wake up call. If we are better it is time to prove it.
Published on October 7, 2010 by Songplayerman
3.0 out of 5 stars Good book for feminists & self-hating males
Don't get me wrong. There is some interesting information in this book, but I didn't like the authors' slant. Read more
Published on May 8, 2010 by P.K. Ryan
5.0 out of 5 stars A thirst-quenching (for me) summary of what's known.
For those with a curiosity about what is really biological in our behavior, this book is very satisfying. Read more
Published on January 30, 2010 by Jennifer M. Lynn
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After spending some time postulating theories which might help explain the motives and actions of school shooters, I gathered a list of relevant keywords such as aggression,... Read more
Published on August 13, 2007 by Seth Thomas
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This one provides a quasi-sociobiological and evolutionary historical look at why people are so fond of raping and murdering each other. Read more
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