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Flawed but fascinating!, October 10, 2008
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Whether you are a " philosophile" or know Descartes only for the famous "Cogito, ergo sum", you will probably find this well-told tale of the continuing legacy of Descartes' thinking fascinating and informative. I enjoyed this book so much that I almost feel guilty not giving it a 5-star rating, but it DOES have two serious flaws. As others have pointed out, the "hook" of the title, the story of Descartes' bones over the past 350 years, is not well integrated into the rest of the book and is not a big enough "hook" on which to hang the book anyway (It might make a nice magazine article.). The second big flaw is the use of the current journalistic "cliche" in which serious topics are introduced through character sketches. Descartes' Bones opens with a vignette of Philippe Mennecier, the curator at Paris' Musee de l'Homme, a vignette which is not very interesting and makes no contribution to the topic of the book. Other modern sketches intrude at other points in the book.
The reviewer in the New York Times called this an "investigative book, one that goes off on frequent philosophical, historical and forensic tangents." I hesitate to disagree with the august Times, but I believe he has it backwards, and this may be the source of the flaws. I consider this to be primarily a wonderful history of philosophy and ideas, encompassing religion, science, and political thinking and tracing the influences of Descartes through them all for 350 years. This is a tall order and a weighty topic, and the flaws in the book may come from an attempt to "lighten it up" lest it intimidate the general reader. Personally, if I used my normal heuristic of "do I like the first page enough to go on?" I would probably have stopped reading, and that would have been a mistake. The "bones" theme and the modern tangents are only a small part of the book, and the rest is worth the investment of your time.
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An Interesting Project, An Interesting Read, October 3, 2008
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I really hate to disagree with most of the previous reviewers, but I found this book to be interesting and enlightening. I admit it is not a page-turner, but it is, after all, an "intellectual" detective story and not a thriller or novel of suspense.
I was first introduced seriously to Descartes as the subject of a graduate seminar in philosophy during my first year as a graduate student in philosophy at the University of Washington way back in the ancient year of 1961. I did not then -- nor do I do now -- consider Descartes to be a "great" philosopher, even though he is considered to be the so-called father of modern philosophy. That aside, there is no question that he raised philosophical issues of great import which still haunt us today.
This book does give the reader, in my opinion, an interesting detective story, despite the fact that he roams around a lot of intellectual history; and European geography, for that matter. For those readers, however, who have never been introduced to Descartes or the real problem he created -- the so-called body-mind problem -- this could be an adventure for them much needed.
So, I have to respectfully disagree with the other reviewers of this book who are negative toward it. I found it a good, if not excellent, read and would, without hesitation, recommend it to all general readers. Granted it is not great philosophy, maybe not even great history; but it is a fascinating tale. And I think told well.
Unfortunately, I was stuck with reading an uncorrected proof of this book. There were a number of quotes I would have cited to discuss. But such is not to be done, according to the warning clearly imprinted on the back cover of the book. So what I have said above is all to be said from my standpoint. Still, considering that restraint, I do advise potential readers not to shy away from this book. There's a lot to learn here and the ever-present battle between faith and reason, which is a continuous theme throughout the book, makes for a good read in spite of some of the shortcomings.
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Not enough here to support a whole book, September 25, 2008
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On occasion there comes a book which examines some piece of history, a thing thought of as a footnote, and successfully demonstrates its importance. Shorto's last book, "The Island at the Center of the World" examined such a footnote, examining the fascinating, brief, and often neglected, history of the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam. With that work he offered a story that was not just entertaining, but gave considerable food for thought as one reconsiders American history. Shorto doubtless hoped to achieve the same illumination with Descartes' Bones, following the mystery of the disappearance of the Philosopher's remains as a vehicle for considering his central place in the development of modernity. Where "Island" sought to explore the under appreciated early history of a city which played a generally agreed upon crucial role in world history, in "Descartes' Bones" Shorto wants to take a person to whom most people have likely given little thought and make him the intellectual fulcrum of the Enlightenment.
If that sounds like a big task to you, you would be right. Worse still, Shorto not only does not succeed in accomplishing his goal, but cuts several intellectual corners to make a round peg of an idea fit into a square hole of a book.
In the first place, even used as a metaphor as Shorto wishes to, Descartes' remains and their whereabouts is just not that interesting a topic. A long essay in the Atlantic perhaps, but a better than 200 page book? In the second place, Shorto's claims regarding Descartes do not stand up to scrutiny to anyone familiar with his topic. One senses that even the author knows this as he often gives only the briefest attention to those important aspects of Cartesian philosophy which under cut his thesis.
For those who forget Philosophy 101, Descartes famously claimed he wanted to construct his understanding of the world based on nothing more than things of which he could be logically sure. To this end, he began with the question of how he could even be sure he existed, concluding he must with the famous phrase "Cogito ergo sum," or "I think therefore I am." In so much as this idea of building understanding on logic, Descartes served an important purpose in that he broke with the Aristotelian dogma of his day.
Unfortunately, contrary to Shorto's claims, in so doing Descartes not starting a movement, but joining one. At the time of Descartes birth Galilleo was in his thirties. Descarte aided this movement by giving birth to the "rationalist" school, but his efforts suffered from substantial limitations, indeed, Shorto works mightily to hide these shortcomings.
Back for a moment to philosophy 101. The problem with Descartes idea of I think therefore I am is that it leaves the "thinker" as a disembodied mind. Of course that would be quite boring, so the philosopher needs to find a bridge out. To this end, he leans on an ontological argument for the existence of god to "prove" that he can trust his senses. Here again, Shorto gives short shrift to a crucial segment of Descartes thought; while the author does wish to explore the fact that Descartes thought of himself as a very religious Catholic - particularly as it relates to the disputes between moderate and "radical" Cartesians - he does not want to focus on how that belief works as a central pillar of Descartes' work.
Shorto also seeks to put Descartes at the foundation of all later philosophers and therefore lay at the Frenchman's feet credit for what they built. Unfortunately history and those other thinkers own writing, gets very much in the way. Many found Descartes philosophy hollow - which one can understand, since it basically required a "cheat" to escape being disembodied mind - and thus another philosophical school was born. This school - empiricism - far from seeing themselves as part of a Cartesian revolution saw themselves in opposition to it. These thinkers, first Locke, but later and more significantly Hume, are far more the fathers of modern ideas of personhood, property, and ethics than Descartes. Indeed, when Immanuel Kant said that "Hume had "woke him from his dogmatic slumber" Cartesian thought was the dogma to which he referred.
Time and again Shorto papers over this great intellectual conflict. Thus he offers the American revolution vs. its French counterpart as a conflict between moderate and radical Cartesians. Unfortunately, the Founding Fathers, devoted as they were to the Empiricist school of Locke and practical politics, would have found the notion absurd.
Cartesian philosophy, existing as it does almost entirely as a function of the mind, had a powerful impact on abstract mathematics. However, Descartes' thought was not, as Shorto wants to argue, the basis for experimental science - doubting the veracity of one's senses makes gathering data difficult - here again, Hume plays the central role.
One can quibble with other aspects of Shorto's work, such as his tendency to turn all those who opposed his protagonist into villains described in Perils of Pauline fashion, with epitets such as "rat faced," but that is to quibble. For the most part, he writes very well. No, in this case his problem lies in the short comings of his topic, a deficiency one cannot easily overcome.
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