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The Devil's Final Battle

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I really would like to recommend reading this book. It has answered so many questions for me about the Church. i.e. why the Vatican does nothing when Bishops are actually condoning evil, for one thing. I couldn't put this book down. It deals in facts and allows the reader to see how the problems in the Church start at the top. I also was very grateful for the attitude of respect for our leadership, but willingness to be honest about what has been occuring at the same time. Very well written. It gave me food for thought and prayer. I felt like I finally took the blinders off and became willing to face the truth.

As an avid reader, this is one of the best books I've read in many years. A true eye-opener on many subjects, not just the Catholic Church. "As goes the Church, so goes the world." This book is worth it to send out as a gifts to all. I've done further research since reading this book, and it all corrobates to the courageous indictment Fr Kramer and Fr Gruner bring against the rot of the modern Catholic Church. God Bless them for sharing the true story of Fatima and the blatant cover-up of the Third Secret.

I read this book in early 2005 after pushing it around my collection of to be read books. As soon as I started I couldn't put it down although it was repetitve at times, hence the taking away of one star. I think Father Kramer wanted to be sure you got the message of our Lady of Fatima and the coverup of the mysterious Third Message in case you were just browsing the book! The essential theme is that the current rejection of the message of Fatima causes the present crisis in the(Catholic) Church and the world. The crisis in the Church manifests itself in many ways, most visibly and troublesome with the pedophile and coverup scandal plauging the rectories of America. The crisis in the world is most notably revealed through acts of terrorism and general decay of societies in moral terms. On the inside cover of the book is a picture if the Twin Towers standing with thick , black smoke bellowing from the top floors; the image speaks for itself but the accompanying caption states that unless the Blessed Virgin Mary of Fatimas wishes are heeded many more disasters both natural and man made will occurr. The events concerning the appearances of Our Lady of Fatima are well documented, including the miraculous Miracle of the Sun in 1917 and the messages relayed to Sister Lucy. Although thisis the premise for the book the bulk of the book concerns the coverup and the opposition in revealing the Third Message in it's entirety. The good Father Kramer goes in great detail to chronicle the problems within the Church have a storied history that includes infiltration by less than holy men. The historical role in Portugal of the freemasons is analyzed. The rise of liberal Catholicism, it's condemnation and the perpetuation by Neo-Modernists in Vatican II is examined. Cardinal Ratzinger's(the current Pope) role in the suppression of the Third Message with the support of other high ranking Vatican Cardinals and Archbishops is also discussed. So what is the Third Message you might ask? Controversy aside, essentially it has to do with prayer, the praying of the Rosary and the consecration of Russia. Theologians have been at odds over this later issue and here wherein lies much of the controversy. The interpretations by thevarious theologians over the facts surrounding Sister Lucy's exact words as given by our Lady of Fatima is the crux of debate. Many think the true words were never revealed, the Church dismisses it as being revealed. In the meantime the Great Apostasy continues to flourish and cataclysmic events abound in our existence. There are enough suspicious circumstances and shady goings on to make this some kind of mystery novel; unfoutunately this is no novel but rather an inquiry into why the real Third Secret has never been revealed to the satisfaction of many priests, bishops etc. and of course, lay persons. The book reads like some spy drama and is fascinating. Many issues are raised,in fact too many to dissect in this brief review. However, if you are even the slightest bit curious you will find this book extremely interesting. There are believers and there are non-believers. Read for yourself to see what the fuss is all about. I would definitely recommend this book for Catholics, as well as people from all denominations and even people without religious faith.

This book is about a dramatic conspiracy theory which surrounds the Vatican and the Third Secret of Fatima. It brings forth a lot of evidences to support the following aspects to the theory: 1. The miracle of Fatima was authentic 2. The Third Secret prophecied apostasy in the Church 3. The Church is in apostasy now, resulting from a long-planned infiltration by freemasons and communists 4. The Church has distorted the true meaning of Fatima via a Party Line interpretation of its messages 5. The Church has covered-up the true Third Secret in the past and continues to do so in various ways and 6. The proof of all of this is clear by the state of our current world, 9/11 being clear evidence of the failure of the Vatican to heed the messages of Fatima. The implication by the title of the book is that we are in the last days and Satan is exerting an overwhelming influence in the modern-day Catholic Church, starting at the top. These are strong assertions which, if true, should be taken seriously by all people.

I have reviewed the book in great detail. On the positive side, it does a very good job of providing the evidences to support its theory. It presents its case in a logical order, with historical background information providing a plausible sounding development of events from Vatican II onward, as they pertain to Fatima and its messages. It is chock full of information and though a bit repetitive, it is written with passion and persuasiveness.

HOWEVER, this book greatly misrepresents the facts, and distorts the historical account. I have analyzed just about every evidence provided in the book, and done some independant research to help hone in on the TRUTH regarding 'proven' points. I found a lot of critical evidence that should have been included and discussed in the book IMO, but was not.

More specifically, regarding the claims, what I discovered is the following:

Regarding THE VISITATION: It doesn't talk about the many different viewpoints of eyewitnesses to the sun event of October 13, 1917. It doesn't talk about the various contradictions in testimonies by the three seers, or the evolution of the messages over time. I see the authority of the event as inconclusive without further research, but as definitely questionable given a more complete understanding of the issues. It is hard for me to understand why if it was authentic it is subject to so many items which detract from its authenticity. Why wouldn't the message have truly been unmistakably authentic as the book claims it is?

Regarding THE PROPHECIES: It quickly dismisses the fact that the events in the 2nd message were publically written down after the took place. It doesn't analyze the implications of the specific consecration of Russia in 1952. It doesn't tell the reader that one of the books main witnesses to the secret also wrote that Sister Lucia didn't tell the secret to anyone. It misleads the reader by quoting from a false interview to further their point. I see little evidence that the content of the message was known to be about apostasy.

Regarding THE SMOKE OF SATAN: It doesn't tell the reader that Alta Vendita movement had no evidence of continuing within the last 100 years. It doesn't tell the reader that existing evidence for communist infiltration does not agree with the statements by Belle Dodd. It doesn't tell the reader that there were issues related to salvation that required clarification from the Vatican. It doesn't tell the reader that the Church underwent numerous changes which show that the celebration of the Mass prior to Vatican II was not a mirror of the teachings of the apostles--from the earliest Roman liturgies being in Greek, not Latin, to changes in the liturgy regarding the Eucharist, to the addition of singing in the 7th century, and so many more. I don't know enough to claim any expert opinion with regard to whether the Church is in apostasy, but from what I looked at I can see why some might see certain aspects of the changes to be questionable. I think a good Catholic should be very careful to understand all of the answers to objections one might have before just determining that they are in apostasy, especially in light of the history of change in the Church.

Regarding the PARTY LINE: It doesn't tell the reader that Sister Lucia was nodding her approval of the comments by Sodano on the third secret and the Popes assassination. It doesn't tell the reader that the commentary states clearly that the visions were not fantasy. It discusses very little the Vatican viewpoint which draws parallels between the 2nd and 3rd parts of the message. It doesn't talk about the claims some make of signs of spiritual renewal in Russia. I think the Church interpretation is reasonable, but that there are some interpretations which favor the Church's new reluctance to condemn Russia. There are definite signs that some in the Vatican may not accept all of the messages as authentic. However I don't see that as a change in the official Vatican position toward Fatima as much as a response to new information from the continued unveiling of messages.

Regarding the COVER-UP: It doesn't talk about the fear of nuclear disaster that was prevalent in 1960. It doesn't talk about the lack of any testimony by Father Alonso and others that supports the idea that the Third Secret came in two parts. It distracts the reader with its conclusions about the 1982 letter from Sister Lucia, but misses the main point: Sister Lucias comments about the third part being a symbolic revelation are very much in sinc with the vision that was revealed as the third part. It doesn't discuss the many alternative viewpoints regarding her silencing by the Vatican. It misleads the reader with regard to the 2001 interview of Sister Lucia. And it misleads the reader into thinking that Father Gruner was more important to the Vatican than the 9/11 attack, which the evidence clearly disputes. I think that even though it is easy to suspect a cover-up, the evidence points to there being no unrevealed Third Secret. Other actions likely reflect the Vatican sensitivity to the many believers in Fatima.


In the end, it is a fascinating theory. Secrets by people in power are the makings of books like these because they turn on our imaginations in an exciting way. But, I tried to stick to the evidences for the theory. And I agree with certain aspects of the theory. But, my most honest attempt at being unbiased leads me to believe that this theory is full of holes which the book doesn't even try to fill. My search for truth has led me to believe that the theory lacks strong, consistent, evidence in every primary aspect: from the authenticity of the message, to the witnesses of a predicted apostasy, to an actual apostasy fueled by freemasonry and communist infiltration, to the absurdity of the Vatican party line, to the cover-up of the true secret, and finally, to the proof. Despite what the book claims, strong evidence is simply lacking.

To find my full review with footnotes, do a google search for Fatima devils final battle peoplepc.

Fr. Paul Kramer wrote a great book with cited evidence on the cover-up on the Message of Our Lady of Fatima. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger who is now Pope Benedict XVI does not believe in the Message of Fatima like Fr. Edouard Dhanis, a Modernist priest---both of them believe that Sister Lucy had made up the Fatima apparition with her own imagination using pious spiritual books! For more information read the book!!

It also shows how the Vatican and the Conciliar Church rather please men and not offend "different religions" or "our separated brethren" that they don't have to convert to the Catholic Faith in order to save their souls. Proper documentation exposes Cardinal Walter Kasper told an Orthodox bishop not to convert to the Catholic Faith in the name of Ecumenism!!

It also talks about the role modern heretics for infiltrating the Church and introducing their heretical teachings that today affect our Church such as Fr. Hans Urs Von Balthassar, Cardinal Yves Congar, Cardinal Henri Lubac, Fr. Hans Kung, Fr. Karl Rahner, and others as well. Shocking enough they were associates and friends of our new Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI (Cardinal Joseph Alois Ratzinger)!!!

The Devil's Final Battle is a must for all Catholics, in fact, even people of other Faiths should read it too. It is not fiction. This book is a compilation of facts, and was edited and compiled by Father Paul Kramer. The book tells that there was a 3rd secret of Fatima that Sister Lucy received. I know the Vatican claimed that the secret was revealed, but I, like many others said, "What? That can't be the true secret." This book shows how the withholding of the 3rd secret has caused the crisis in the Church and the rest of the world.
Never in my life did I ever write comments in a book I was reading. That changed when I read this book. Page after page I have underlined and made my own comments in the margins. Read this for yourself, regardless of denomination, and you will agree that this is a totally absorbing, and mind boggling book. I have also given this book to other Christians to read and pass along. It is necessary reading, especially in today's world.

This book tells the story of the last 100 years of the planned and systematic hostile takeover of the catholic church by internal and external enemies. It references its sources and tells a story the official hierarchy kept quiet about until today. It explains the actual state of the church and gives the reader in a nutshell the heart of the problems of the church of today.

Very, VERY, informative... sometimes to a fault. Very dogmatic in it's acceptance of evidence on faith, but still very informative to anyone researching the fatima scandal from either side of the debate...