Most likely a Director's Cut of ST:TMP will never happen on blu-ray. The new visual effects for the DC were created in standard definition and not HD. They would need to go back and re-do all of the new visuals in HD and I don't see that happening anytime soon since TMP isn't regarded as highly as some of the other trek films. But here's to hoping.....
Considering how they treated the fans with the "Into Darkness" fiasco by spreading all the bonus material around to three different retailers, I have very little faith in Paramount gracing us with the alternate cuts. I suppose we should be happy that they are on DVD at all.
CBS is treating Star Trek's TV franchise like the new toy it is to them and lavishing quite a bit of love and coin on its Blu Rays and merchandising. Paramount is treating the films the way it always has the franchise - like a cash cow that can be re-milked over and over again with limited effort on their part. This set is just a nice case for the previously-released Blu Rays which themselves are of varying quality (mostly up-resolutions) with a majority of their special features cribbed from the Special Edition DVDs (sans TMP which may never get HD love for its Director's Cut) which themselves followed a slew of vanilla DVDs Par released in order to be able to re-release them in the first place. The UK version of this at least has a few glossy collectible trinkets and the original artwork for the films inside (I hate looking at the cheap and lazy designs for the current US Blu Ray cases and discs).
Hi, DAW. On a slightly-off-topic note: most of the visual effects for the first two seasons of "Star Trek: Enterprise" were created in standard definition as well and were carefully upconverted to 1080p high definition for the Blu-ray releases.
Still holding off for a Director's Cut set. I like TMP DC waaaay too much to go back now. It's a wonderful film that I watched 2 weeks ago for the first time in a few years. It's so underrated. I see no reason to go back to what is in this set. I'll continue with my DVDs instead.
RE: Still holding off for a Director's Cut set. I like TMP DC waaaay too much to go back now. It's a wonderful film that I watched 2 weeks ago for the first time in a few years. It's so underrated. I see no reason to go back to what is in this set. I'll continue with my DVDs instead.
"TMP DC = ??????
Trying to wade thru what is in each of the sets for sale on Amazon, debating DVD, vs BlueRay...
What is TMP DC? Additionally, what DVD's are you saying you're going to stick with? (What set are you referring to?)
EDIT: TMP DC = STAR TREK, THE MOTION PICTURE DIRECTORS CUT
So, No directors cut.... what's the best set to get? I am viewing on 60 inch 1080p HDTV so BlueRay would make things look nicer if source material is BlueRay, 16x9 friendly
What discourages me from purchasing BlueRay media is I'm sort of old school and would like make a backup copy of media, store the originals and use the backups for everyday use which sort of leaves BlueRay out right? .
TMP DC = Star Trek The Motion Picture Director's Cut.
Robert Wise recut and had the effects finished for his director's cut. It is a vastly superior film over the rushed into cinema's original cut released in 1979. Problem is the new effects were done in SD so it is unlikely we'll ever see the DC as a blu-ray release as it just doesn't exist in HD.
I love how Wise had the new effects completed to look as if they were what was possible for optical effects from 1979.....they fit in seamlessly with the original effects and footage. The DC is the version to see.
Sorry about that. I should have put ST:TMP. Thanks Quentin.
The visual quality of the DVD isn't great, and I only have a 42" Plasma and panny blu ray player. Watchable, and actually quite gorgeous in spite of the less than pristine grainy picture. I'd be a little worried that effects would suffer if it was too clear. Kirk/Scotty's ride to the Enterprise is spectacular and I sure wouldn't want it to look lesser. Several times I was thinking to myself, hard to believe the effects are so old. Most holds up beautifully. There's a few things it wouldn't bother me that much if they fixed, like a shot or 2 of the Enterprise in the distance while inside the V'ger area. But most of that is still awesome.
The blu rays for the original series, with both the original version and the enhanced, are the way to go. I was stunned at how much I liked the revamped effects. Never thought I'd want anything but original. But I was wrong. I watched the enhanced for the first time just recently, from mid season 2 (where I left off with my old DVDs) up the end of the series. Then started the films. I haven't watched Trek this much since I was a kid. The enhanced made me watch it daily for a long while. Can't wait to go back and see the rest from season 1 and on. I plan to watch the films all the way up to Into Darkness. I still need to get the 3D version of that to watch but I have all the rest.
@monkeycatt, that's definitely a personal preference. For me, I'm way more excited about seeing TNG on blu. I missed so many of those. Next for me is DS9. I've never seen an episode of Enterprise before. But I plan on getting all blu ray ST series when the prices are manageable. Worth the wait for sure.
Just y'all wait, I can assure you the Director's Editions of TMP and TWOK and who know's perhaps Bill will finally get the funding to re-do TFF will all be coming, along with the TNG and current abomination for the 50th Anniversary. CashCow Indeed!
This is why Star Wars has become so popular. Because fans can make what they want, without getting a letter saying to stop what they are doing. I tried to make a website to enjoy JUST the LCARS interface from Star Trek and we got a letter saying to take the site down. No money was ever involved, not even a donation button. It's no wonder people hate on the Television Networks now days. I personally threw my TV out. I only watch Netflix now. I was working on an operating system from scratch that actually boots up into an LCARS interface, but since it even LOOKS like an LCARS interface, I'm not allowed to show it. That is how bad CBS has gotten. So I agree 100% with all of you, CBS is only interested in the money and they are screwing over their fan base because of it. It's a reason more and more people are hating on Trek now. Roddenberry would turn over in his grave if he knew about this. Why do you think Doctor Who franchise has become so "Vibrant" lately ? Because they are not screwing over their fans, neither is the Star Wars franchise ( yet since Disney now owns it ). I bought the Star Trek 1 - 6 set, I never bought the rest because honestly I have lost interest in it now since the CBS network is not FAN friendly.
It is a double edged sword. What happened to you is unfortunate, but you could argue that CBS is giving more attention to its newly-acquired Trek properties than Paramount was going to. I don't know if we'd have ever gotten TNG on blu ray at all, let alone as lovingly curated an experience as CBS is giving us. You have every right to complain about how zealously they protect intellectual property, but it's an overstatement to say fans are hating on the franchise because of their greed. If anything, fans are upset because they've not yet greenlit DS9 for HD transfers and made plans for a new TV series. I'm also not sure which company you should be complaining about though - since the Viacom split, CBS owns Star Trek on TV and Paramount still controls the movies. Your not buying Star Treks 7-11 doesn't affect CBS at all.
" let alone as lovingly curated an experience as CBS is giving us."
Yea that is what we are not getting. They do not care about their fans. There is no love from them. As for BR, again, its about the money. But the fans are not allowed to have websites or anything if they choose to go up against you, and I'm not talking about any money involved. So again, I don't see the love from them. I grew up a fan of trek, but now I have no love for it. They shown their true colors to myself and my friends. At least I could make a Doctor Who fan site or a Star Wars fan site with no issues. But be aware if you try to make a trek site. You could get sued.
"I'm also not sure which company you should be complaining about though"
It's CBS. They own full rights. And they are the ones a lot of us got letters of cease and desist from.
EDIT UPDATE : I just did a search and Wow you are correct that Paramount pictures owns exclusive rights. But why CBS, who only owns the TV rights, is after everyone on the net, is a mystery. Apparently, Paramount can't even put it on TV because CBS is blocking them from doing so. AGAIN, CBS is the monster here. I'll say this, if LCARS comes back strong and without worry of getting sued, then I can finally show people my Operating System with full mouse and keyboard support. ( I have been studying how to make one, and working on it, since 2000. )