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4.0 out of 5 stars One of the best explanations of Decision Trees to be found
There is a lot to like about this book, but it has some unfortunate flaws. Note that it is part of a Data Mining trilogy. The other two books are: Data Mining Methods and Models and Data Mining the Web: Uncovering Patterns in Web Content, Structure, and Usage.

My initial reaction was more negative as I feel strongly about the issues that this book addresses...
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1.0 out of 5 stars Worst book ever
I have read many university books in my life but never saw a book that does such a lousy job in explaining the concepts. I wish my teacher chose a different book. FYI this book is used at least at davenport university Michigan. See if at all you can boycott this author.
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13 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars One of the best explanations of Decision Trees to be found, March 29, 2008
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There is a lot to like about this book, but it has some unfortunate flaws. Note that it is part of a Data Mining trilogy. The other two books are: Data Mining Methods and Models and Data Mining the Web: Uncovering Patterns in Web Content, Structure, and Usage.

My initial reaction was more negative as I feel strongly about the issues that this book addresses poorly. However, I find myself turning to this book again and again. I would endorse it highly, but with a caution or two. The very best features of the book are the exceptionally clear explanations of complicated algorithms. In particular, Chapters 6 and 7 and their explanations of Decision Trees and Neural Nets are just perfect for both new and veteran analysts who want to understand what is happening "under the hood". Those chapters are stand-outs, but all of the 80%+ part of the book that describes algorithms in detail (clear, careful, and readable detail) is uniformly excellent. For some readers, it may be the first time that the techniques really make sense to them.

Now the flaws. The three book format is, frankly, annoying. The second book and third books are much weaker, but the it was clearly designed as a trilogy, so it is hard to recommend the first to a client without at least implicitly recommending the second. Spending my reading time well is more important to me than my reading budget, but the set of three costs more than $200. Unless you plan on an entire shelf of related books, like me, I can't recommend the entire set.

The other flaw is less obvious, and is the one that concerns me the most. Although this book cites Dorian Pyle's excellent book ... it seems to miss the whole point. Data Mining data prep is quite different from data prep for statistics. Although the two areas share a lot in common, and while mastery of statistics is a good thing for data miners, this is one of the differences between the two disciplines. Data cleaning and data reduction are critical, but this book suggests that this is accomplished by the human doing all possible bivariates. Recommendations of factor analysis and log transformations abound, but never with cautions of when that is unnecessary or even a bad idea - something Pyle's book explores. Also, transformations like binning come off as something the analyst does during data exploration, getting it perfect before modeling. Sounds like statistics data prep to me - not data mining data prep. If anyone has ever completed data prep without preliminary modeling, or has modeled without having to revisit data prep, I have never heard of it. If a novice data miner were to take the advice too literally, they could get themselves into trouble. This would be especially true of a reader that is well versed in statistics - there is a predictable set of mistakes awaiting the classically trained on their first data mining project!

My advice? There is a lot to benefit from here. All of the "white box" walk through examples are great. Consider buying this book, the Pyle book Data Preparation for Data Mining (The Morgan Kaufmann Series in Data Management Systems), and Berry and Linoff Data Mining Techniques: For Marketing, Sales, and Customer Relationship Management, while skipping the other two in this trilogy. Use this book for the algorithm explanations, but be cautious otherwise.

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11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars conveys basic ideas, August 24, 2006
This review is from: Discovering Knowledge in Data: An Introduction to Data Mining (Hardcover)
The book gives a good introduction to data mining. Larose manages to cover the important techniques used to analyse data and turn it into knowledge. These include neural networks, various types of clustering. Most importantly, perhaps, he discusses how to try various models and how to evaluate the effectiveness of each model.

The book's length is insufficient for many readers to actually get enough information to apply several of the methods. The details of using neural networks, for example, can be quite voluminous. But the value of the book is in conveying the basic qualitative ideas of the methods.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Good buy., February 19, 2012
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I had a good experience in the purchasing of this book. It arrived on time, in good conditions, and ready for use.

About the book: If you're getting into Data Mining, this is a very good first read. Once read, you may consider getting a more complete book, which you can get help in finding from this book itself.

Again, this was a good buy, and I am pleased with the seller.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Worst book ever, January 25, 2011
I have read many university books in my life but never saw a book that does such a lousy job in explaining the concepts. I wish my teacher chose a different book. FYI this book is used at least at davenport university Michigan. See if at all you can boycott this author.
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