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ISBN-13: 978-0763772062 ISBN-10: 0763772062 Edition: 3rd

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  • Hardcover: 1009 pages
  • Publisher: Jones & Bartlett Learning; 3 edition (February 25, 2009)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0763772062
  • ISBN-13: 978-0763772062
  • Product Dimensions: 1.8 x 7.8 x 9.2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 3.5 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (21 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #124,291 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful By Christian J. Figueroa on November 7, 2010
Format: Hardcover
I'm a student and beginner at discrete math and all related to this book. The book fails to teach in plain English and requiers you to come back to read over and over again what you failed to understand the first, second and third time.

The problems in each section are increadibily higher skilled than the examples and almost impossible to get the right answers. Some problems are even leagues away of what the examples imply and you would have never guessed where the answers on the back of the book came from.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful By Troy Cartmill on February 20, 2011
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This book can get you more lost than a first grader walking home from school. The exercise problems are terrible. It gives you the answers to all the easy problems and the hard problems which the chapters dont explain anything well will have you frustrated and confused. The chapters give you examples, but are not clear of how to work each example out. It just gives you the solution to the problem without giving an explanation. I have yet to find a solutions manual for this book. The book is not organized very well. If you have to have this book for a class, I suggest doing all the problems in each exercise, and the ones you cant figure out ask your teacher. I'm on my last two semesters in my CS degree and I have good programming skills, I would not recommend this book.
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At Portland State, this book is used for beginning DS but it's a very unfortunate book to use, especially since the professor teaching it uses the same examples and notes based on the book to teach the subject in class. I actually went online and found Vladlen Koltun's lecture notes from Stanford University. He goes over the same subject matter, actually explains a good proof structure and the more basic assumptions being made, and frankly made a lot more sense. Only buy it if it's required.
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful By R. C. Tash on November 7, 2010
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This book is required for two classes at Portland State. I honestly agree with a few reviewers here when they say it is better used as a door stop. The common chapter will briefly explain the subject matter, never in great detail. It includes graphs and pictures that most people won't understand, unless you sit and study it for longer than you should. Finally, the reader is then expected to complete exercises that are far more complex than anything the book has shown, most of which the book hasn't even taught or even mentioned.

Unless you are required to take this book, my opinion is to find a completely different book. One where the subject matter is actually taught, not simply briefly explained.

Also, as to the teacher here calling people average for not understanding this book... You're a douche.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful By Joseph M Millenbach on May 9, 2011
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I'm required to use this book as I go to Portland State University where Hein taught for a while. The examples are helpful, but often I find the formal definitions hard to follow. I'm not the only one who has mentioned this about the book in my classes...we use it for 3 quarters.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful By Chris on October 20, 2014
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Obviously this is a required book for most so a rating does little help in deciding if you should get this or not. But at least don't pay full price for this book, rent it or buy used and get rid of it.

The examples and overall wording of the book is horrible. It is for entry level classes in this area and the reading is now where near that level. The content is hardly skimmed over and examples and exercises leave you confused on where the answers even came from. Most examples skip from problem to solution with no middle steps and variables/symbols that appear from nowhere.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful By Chris W on September 13, 2014
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It has been said that a teacher who has mastered teaching can teach any concept so that a child can understand it. From the ground up this book is written in a complex manner. When I you tube some of the topics I find that the seemingly complex ideas that are covered are really quite simple. This book needlessly complicates most topics. Expect to read the same sentences over and over again and still wonder what exactly is being said.
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By Kiarash Torkian on January 21, 2014
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So this book has 3 editions, each released at years of 1995, 2001, and 2010. As I did some readings, this book is mostly used here at Portland State University because it is the required textbook for any of the beginner Discrete classes. The author, James L. Hein is also a professor at PSU. Coincidence? I don't know, but the book is just terrible. For starters, other reviews talking about this book being completely inappropriate for a beginner are right. Also, it is the third edition and yet the book contains typos and mistakes in the examples to the point that the professors have to go out of their way and remind students about it. Why is this thing published?
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