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Bob Dylan: "At last I was here, in New York City... I was there to find singers, the ones I'd heard on record--Dave Van Ronk, Peggy Seeger, Ed McCurdy, Brownie McGhee and Sonny Terry, Josh White, the New Lost City Ramblers, Reverend Gary Davis... most of all to find Woody Guthrie." Read more musical excerpts from Chronicles, Vol. 1 on our Music You Should Hear page.
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22 of 25 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
Down in the Groove is a special album for me because this was the first Dylan CD I ever bought. Certainly, it's not one of his better albums, typifying the Dylan doldrums of the early 1980s, but it does have a few bright spots amid its many faults. A significant problem with this CD is the absence of any type of flow; it sounds like 10 songs thrown together somewhat haphazardly. "Let's Stick Together" is a kicking opening song that gets the juices flowing. It is followed by the slow yet meaningful "When Did You Leave Heaven?" Then we shift back to a faster tune in "Sally Sue Brown," only to slip into the slowest song on the album, the simply poignant "Death is Not the End." Then it's back to a rocking beat with "Had A Dream About You Baby" (with Eric Clapton on guitar) and the conspicuously interesting "Ugliest Girl in the World," a song which I myself actually like. "Silvio" is the only possibly recognizable song on the album and is the only song I remember hearing Dylan perform live in concert soon after this CD's release. "Ninety Miles An Hour (Down a Dead End Street)" is one of the more meaningful songs found here, as is the strangely beautiful dirge "Rank Strangers To Me," but even these tracks are rather forgettable.
The overall weakness of Down in the Groove can be traced to a simple source--most of these songs were not written by Bob Dylan. The backup singers on this album just don't seem to suit Dylan, either, lending a strange R&B sound to several tunes. It is interesting to note that the 80s group Full Force (which few people besides me probably remember) performed the backup vocals on "Death is Not the End." All in all, this is really an uninspired album. Although it was my first Dylan CD, I would not recommend this for Dylan newbies. It's not as bad as the critics make it out to be, but its lack of focus and short length (less than 35 minutes) make it a low priority for those trying to build a Bob Dylan CD collection.
29 of 34 people found the following review helpful
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I never gave two hoots for Bob Dylan. Not two hoots! Then I moved into a new home, and, by golly, the previous occupant (could it have been God?) left behind several items from his record collection. And I do mean "record" collection. These were good old-fashioned American made vinyl LPs, not them fancy, schmancy little made in Japan or China or anywhere but the U.S. Christmas tree ornaments known as compact discs. The other records were by Lawrence Welk (whose rendition of "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right" was the only version of a Dylan song I found tolerable) and the Lennon Sisters. I love 'em both, but because I love 'em, I already had those records. So, with my own record collection still packed away in boxes, but with a real need to hear some music, I slapped Bob Dylan's "Down in the Groove" on the stereo, expecting to be bored or possibly irritated out of my mind. Well, what can I say? One fine song followed another, building to an orgy of musical satisfaction that left me wondering where in God's heck I had been! Did I really live 62 years without "Silvio" rocking in my ears day and night? Did I really choose alcohol, and lots of it, to ease the burden of my loneliness rather than listen to Dylan mournfully moan through the bleak aural landscape of "Rank Strangers to Me"? Had my life truly been an empty shell all these years?
Listening to "Down in the Groove" was a revelation, an epiphany! For the first time in my life, my ears were rocked clean of all their deafening wax, and my eyes, blind for so long, were suddenly freed from their scales and I could see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles, oh yeah! (I have since discovered The Who, as well). Well, I never did bother to unpack those Lawrence Welk, Lennon Sisters, and Don Ho albums from their boxes. Instead I took them down to Half Price Books--7000 albums--where they gave me five dollars (their usual rate no matter what you bring in) for the whole lot of 'em. I went out and bought two McDonalds BBQ chicken sandwiches and a cup of coffee, and still had some change left over. I may have been poor, but I was happy. Thank you, Mr. Down in the Groove. Yes, I mean you, Mr. Dylan.
68 of 86 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars
Easily Dylan's worst studio album (but even at the bottom of the barrel there's a couple of gems)
October 10, 2007
Format:Audio CD
By the late 1980s, the once sacrosanct Bob Dylan had reached the lowest point of his career. During the mid 1960s, he was untouchable, a critical darling, and on a creative roll that has not been seen since. Things had changed drastically in twenty years. By the end of the 1980s, before the release of OH MERCY, many people thought he finally gave up the ghost creatively. While in some respects Dylan's 80s material is unjustly crucified, in other respects the critical assault was totally accurate about how bad he really got during that decade.
DOWN IN THE GROOVE is one of the prime examples of how badly Dylan's art had decayed. DOWN bears the dubious distinction as being the worst studio album in Dylan's catalogue. While Columbia's revenge album DYLAN from 1973 is arguably worst, at least Dylan didn't sanction that release. This album, however, is truly the bottom of the barrel. Dylan lost all artistic direction during this era of his career.
Just for a little context, by 1988 a lot of people had lost faith in Dylan. He hadn't released a decent record in years. Critics and fans overall found EB, his album from 1985, guilty of glitzy production and bad, dated arrangements, a consensus that has only grown stronger in the ensuing (though for my money, EB is as good as anything he's recorded post 1975). Critics panned his 1986 album, KNOCKED OUT LOADED, which barely dented the charts . In 1987, he started in a movie that was so bad it was never released stateside ("Hearts of Fire"), though the soundtrack had some decent songs. That same year, he did a notoriously bad tour with the Grateful Dead. Then in 1988, he released this dismal album. Things were looking pretty bleak for the Dylan faithful.
DOWN IN THE GROOVE is something of a sequel to the other critically reviled studio record Dylan released two years earlier, the aforementioned KNOCKED OUT LOADED. Unlike KOL, DOWN never raises above mediocrity. If anything, DOWN proves that KOL's methodology was not random. KOL pulled songs from several different recording sessions spread out over several years, with each track having a different backing band and filled with collaborators. The only real difference in this regard is DOWN's recording sessions were closer together, but still spread out with different backing bands.
DOWN, unlike its predecessor KOL, which had a number of highlights, is almost entirely bad. KOL has a number of songs that are just engaging, even though there are a couple that are flat out bad. While nothing on DOWN matches the horror of the worst moments of KOL, almost nothing on DOWN reaches the high, or even the enjoyable, moments on KOL either.
DOWN is just filled with simplistic, generic music and obscure covers from Dylan's life. Mostly, though, these covers are uninspiring and forgettable. The first half of the album fares the worst, filled with boring, generic arrangments that are never grating on the ears, but also never truly memorable. The second half plays better than the first half, with a few nice tracks sprinkled throughout. The entire album is filled with boring, generic synths, guitars, drums, and basic, run of the mill instrumentation.
There are only two Dylan originals here. "Death is not the End," an INFIDELS outtake, is very simple and a mildly pleasant song, though never one of my favorite. The song is a 1983 recording with some backup vocals overdubbed in 1988. "Had a Dream About You Baby," like the rest of the album, has that distasteful 1980s aura of Dylan being truly out of ideas. First recorded and released for the "Hearts of Fire" soundtrack, Dylan used an alternate recording for DOWN.
The other two Dylan songs, cowritten with Robert Hunter, The Grateful Dead's official lyricist, are "Silvio" and "Ugliest Girl in the World." Brent Mydland, Weir, and Garcia do backup vocals on "Silvio," easily the best song on the album. "Ugliest Girl in the World," like most novelity tracks, may be funny the first couple of times but there's nothing to return too. "Ugliest Girl" isn't even that funny to begin with, and sounds so bad that maybe even the Dead rejected it.
Despite how damning this review is, there are some bright spots to DOWN. For one, "Shenendoah" ranks among his best interpretations of traditional songs he ever recorded. "Rank Strangers to Me" is a nice little number. "Let's Stick Together" sounds like a companion to KOL's "You Wanna Ramble," if not nearly as memorable.
What's really sad is while DOWN sounds truly uninspired, there are several songs recorded during this era which would not only strengthen the album, but redeem it from being truly despicable to at least a "below average" Dylan album, a step up, in this instance. There are a number of outtakes that would change the entire record. "The Usual" and "Night After Night," both appearing on the "Hearts of Fire" soundtrack, are pretty good songs, better than eight of the ten songs on this record. "Who Loves You More", a fantastic outtake from EB, would have fit in well here, as would the other EB outtake "Freedom For the Stallion." "Important Words", which was released accidentally on the Argentina version of DOWN, was set to be released but was removed, and would have assisted the record.
The real sadness, to me anyway, is the three best songs Dylan recorded during 1986-1987 are almost wholly unknown to the general record buying public, and all three should have been on here. The first is "Band of the Hand," a 1986 song which appears on a soundtrack to the movie of the same name. The song recalls SHOT OF LOVE's "Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar," is one of the most hard-rocking, memorable songs Dylan wrote in the last thirty five years. It should not be consigned to a forgotten soundtrack to a forgotten movie. The second song is the very obscure "Hearts of Fire" outtake "To Fall In Love With You," a five minute gut wrenching work that is better than anything on DOWN or KOL, with maybe the exception of "Brownsville Girl." That song ranks among Dylan's best unreleased material. The third outtake is the Solomon Burke cover "Sidewalks, Fences, and Walls", an outtake that began circulating in February 2007. It blows KOL and DOWN covers out of the water.
Ultimately, DOWN shows us that even our heroes are only human after all. While Dylan purposefully designed the 1970 release SELF-PORTRAIT as a dovetail to get his radical fans off his back, by 1988, it's clear that he's simply running out of steam. With Dylan flooding the market with so many subpar records and products, it's clear he had no audience he needed to shed anyway, because by 1988 a lot of people stopped caring about Dylan. While nothing is absolutely horrible about DOWN, there is hardly anything good to say, which is a shocking statement in and of itself about a Dylan album.
This is a depressing album. A really depressing album. How the mighty have fallen.
DOWN IN THE GROOVE is one of the prime examples of how badly Dylan's art had decayed. DOWN bears the dubious distinction as being the worst studio album in Dylan's catalogue. While Columbia's revenge album DYLAN from 1973 is arguably worst, at least Dylan didn't sanction that release. This album, however, is truly the bottom of the barrel. Dylan lost all artistic direction during this era of his career.
Just for a little context, by 1988 a lot of people had lost faith in Dylan. He hadn't released a decent record in years. Critics and fans overall found EB, his album from 1985, guilty of glitzy production and bad, dated arrangements, a consensus that has only grown stronger in the ensuing (though for my money, EB is as good as anything he's recorded post 1975). Critics panned his 1986 album, KNOCKED OUT LOADED, which barely dented the charts . In 1987, he started in a movie that was so bad it was never released stateside ("Hearts of Fire"), though the soundtrack had some decent songs. That same year, he did a notoriously bad tour with the Grateful Dead. Then in 1988, he released this dismal album. Things were looking pretty bleak for the Dylan faithful.
DOWN IN THE GROOVE is something of a sequel to the other critically reviled studio record Dylan released two years earlier, the aforementioned KNOCKED OUT LOADED. Unlike KOL, DOWN never raises above mediocrity. If anything, DOWN proves that KOL's methodology was not random. KOL pulled songs from several different recording sessions spread out over several years, with each track having a different backing band and filled with collaborators. The only real difference in this regard is DOWN's recording sessions were closer together, but still spread out with different backing bands.
DOWN, unlike its predecessor KOL, which had a number of highlights, is almost entirely bad. KOL has a number of songs that are just engaging, even though there are a couple that are flat out bad. While nothing on DOWN matches the horror of the worst moments of KOL, almost nothing on DOWN reaches the high, or even the enjoyable, moments on KOL either.
DOWN is just filled with simplistic, generic music and obscure covers from Dylan's life. Mostly, though, these covers are uninspiring and forgettable. The first half of the album fares the worst, filled with boring, generic arrangments that are never grating on the ears, but also never truly memorable. The second half plays better than the first half, with a few nice tracks sprinkled throughout. The entire album is filled with boring, generic synths, guitars, drums, and basic, run of the mill instrumentation.
There are only two Dylan originals here. "Death is not the End," an INFIDELS outtake, is very simple and a mildly pleasant song, though never one of my favorite. The song is a 1983 recording with some backup vocals overdubbed in 1988. "Had a Dream About You Baby," like the rest of the album, has that distasteful 1980s aura of Dylan being truly out of ideas. First recorded and released for the "Hearts of Fire" soundtrack, Dylan used an alternate recording for DOWN.
The other two Dylan songs, cowritten with Robert Hunter, The Grateful Dead's official lyricist, are "Silvio" and "Ugliest Girl in the World." Brent Mydland, Weir, and Garcia do backup vocals on "Silvio," easily the best song on the album. "Ugliest Girl in the World," like most novelity tracks, may be funny the first couple of times but there's nothing to return too. "Ugliest Girl" isn't even that funny to begin with, and sounds so bad that maybe even the Dead rejected it.
Despite how damning this review is, there are some bright spots to DOWN. For one, "Shenendoah" ranks among his best interpretations of traditional songs he ever recorded. "Rank Strangers to Me" is a nice little number. "Let's Stick Together" sounds like a companion to KOL's "You Wanna Ramble," if not nearly as memorable.
What's really sad is while DOWN sounds truly uninspired, there are several songs recorded during this era which would not only strengthen the album, but redeem it from being truly despicable to at least a "below average" Dylan album, a step up, in this instance. There are a number of outtakes that would change the entire record. "The Usual" and "Night After Night," both appearing on the "Hearts of Fire" soundtrack, are pretty good songs, better than eight of the ten songs on this record. "Who Loves You More", a fantastic outtake from EB, would have fit in well here, as would the other EB outtake "Freedom For the Stallion." "Important Words", which was released accidentally on the Argentina version of DOWN, was set to be released but was removed, and would have assisted the record.
The real sadness, to me anyway, is the three best songs Dylan recorded during 1986-1987 are almost wholly unknown to the general record buying public, and all three should have been on here. The first is "Band of the Hand," a 1986 song which appears on a soundtrack to the movie of the same name. The song recalls SHOT OF LOVE's "Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar," is one of the most hard-rocking, memorable songs Dylan wrote in the last thirty five years. It should not be consigned to a forgotten soundtrack to a forgotten movie. The second song is the very obscure "Hearts of Fire" outtake "To Fall In Love With You," a five minute gut wrenching work that is better than anything on DOWN or KOL, with maybe the exception of "Brownsville Girl." That song ranks among Dylan's best unreleased material. The third outtake is the Solomon Burke cover "Sidewalks, Fences, and Walls", an outtake that began circulating in February 2007. It blows KOL and DOWN covers out of the water.
Ultimately, DOWN shows us that even our heroes are only human after all. While Dylan purposefully designed the 1970 release SELF-PORTRAIT as a dovetail to get his radical fans off his back, by 1988, it's clear that he's simply running out of steam. With Dylan flooding the market with so many subpar records and products, it's clear he had no audience he needed to shed anyway, because by 1988 a lot of people stopped caring about Dylan. While nothing is absolutely horrible about DOWN, there is hardly anything good to say, which is a shocking statement in and of itself about a Dylan album.
This is a depressing album. A really depressing album. How the mighty have fallen.
Most Recent Customer Reviews
5.0 out of 5 stars
Down in the Groove
Classic Dylan—Not his greatest album, however like every one of his albums there are at least a few gems. Highly recommended for those who want a complete collection.
Published 5 months ago by J. Humphrey
5.0 out of 5 stars
What bad news? This is one of his best.
I love this album. I picked up the vinyl at my local record shop, and it has turned out to be one of the albums of Dylan's I go to. Both my wife and I agree that it's gorgeous. Read more
Published 15 months ago by Scott Anderson
5.0 out of 5 stars
Dylan reigns
Definitely one of his better "unknown albums" and great, even if it was during his spiritual phase. The CDs arrived whole, well and in good shape, however, I was given the wrong... Read more
Published on January 15, 2011 by Susie
4.0 out of 5 stars
Just Remember, "The Groove" is Not the Worst
The best explanation I can think of for the abundance of times this album has shown up on critics' lists of the worst albums ever released by major music acts is that they needed... Read more
Published on March 25, 2010 by Bud Sturguess
4.0 out of 5 stars
Easy Listening
Considered not one of Dylan's better albums yet I quite like it. The album has a good variety of differing catchy tunes and is easy listening to relax to. Read more
Published on February 1, 2010 by Rob Tucker
3.0 out of 5 stars
Grovvin' with Bob
Strange collection of songs. Plenty of rockers like "Ugliest Girl in the World", "Silvio", "Dream About You Baby". Read more
Published on July 1, 2009 by M. J. Schultz
5.0 out of 5 stars
Speedy process. Was very pleased!
Ordered this for my grandson, and he was very happy to receive it so quickly!
Published on July 9, 2008 by Marsha Turow
1.0 out of 5 stars
(1.5 stars) Pathetic music from a genius...
A total ugly piece of crap, though to be fair Dylan has done worse, and it's at least a marginal improvement over Knocked Out Loaded. Read more
Published on April 19, 2008 by finulanu
3.0 out of 5 stars
Ragged & Beautiful
I love this album - the songs all sound like very casual demos & rough mixes. It sounds like Dylan has rummaged through a bunch of rehearsal material & put together a mix-tape! Read more
Published on November 24, 2007 by MythMaker
1.0 out of 5 stars
Easily Dylan's worst studio album
For Bob Dylan, culturally many view his highwater mark as the 1960s. As famous as his 1960s output his, the 1980s for Bob is equally famous, but for entirely different reasons. Read more
Published on October 10, 2007 by Mike London
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