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Dungeon Master's Guide 2 (4th Edition D&D)

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As anyone who plays RPGs knows at this late date, the fourth edition of Dungeons & Dragons (or D&D4E) has engendered a lot of controversy in the community by breaking dramatically with the game's past in several key areas, replacing decades-old systems like "Vancian" casting and skill checks with power lists and collaborative skill challenges. Where did these innovations come from? "4E rips off World of Warcraft," say people who in most cases know very little about either. The truth is that a lot of 4E's mechanics and underlying philosophy were heavily influenced by the burgeoning independent RPG movement of recent years, a collection of writers and designers that have worked to stretch the boundaries of what is possible in the world of roleplaying games. Games without dice or any random elements, games without referees or dungeon masters, games without rules...a whole new world of strange delights that Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson could never have foreseen.

Influenced by these innovators, the people who made 4E went under the hood of Dungeons and Dragons and rebuilt it from the ground up. Nothing was sacred. We've seen the result of their efforts in the rules of the system to date, but now, with the release of Dungeon Master's Guide 2, we see the philosophy illustrated, not with rules, but with storytelling techniques that any DM, for *any* system, can profit from. Very little of the advice is specific to 4E, or even to Dungeons and Dragons. It shows you, with examples, how to harness the power of collaborative storytelling, how to enlist your players in worldbuilding and how to tell stories that engage everyone at the table.

Let me share my own story. The day after getting this I was due to begin a new game of Star Wars Saga Edition with a new group of people - some friends and some strangers - and I was stumped for what to do. I was having serious trouble coming up with characters and stories, and I dreaded showing up unprepared. But I took the advice from chapter 1 of this book and during character creation at the first session, I went around the table and had each of my players describe for me a positive relationship their character has with another PC, a negative relationship they have with another PC, and to name and describe an NPC that they have a relationship with. Here's the thing: that may sound basic, but often, many players have thoughts about their characters and the game as a whole that they never share with each other or with the group - but here, as we went around the table, the characters came to life, not only in their players' minds, but in each other's as well, and they began relating to each other with a level of excitement and drama that in the past took weeks or months of play to form. And meanwhile the players had, completely without knowing it, given me enough story fuel to last for months! The game has been a huge hit and the players love seeing the NPC and setting details they created reflected in the world around them. I've been DMing for two decades and that simple trick had never occurred to me, and now I'll never run another game without it.

The book is full of useful, practical advice like that. But there's a challenge inherent in much of the advice, and it involves being willing to let go a bit of the old ways of doing things. Many DMs are immensely possessive of "their" story and "their" world, and the suggestions in this book will sound like madness to them. They want to stick with what's worked for them. And I can't blame them for that, but what this book has shown me is that even in a field as well-trodden as Dungeon Mastering there are still new things to try. In a way, it's liberating, to realize that after all this time, I am still a learner.

I was, at first, leery of the DMG II. What could it possibly have that would make it worthwhile?

The answer: plenty.

Where the first DMG focused on basic tools and techniques for the beginning DM, DMG II focuses on rules, techniques, and help for the experienced DM. The chapter on group storytelling techniques taught an old hand like me a few new tricks, and considering that I've been doing this for 20 some-odd years, that's no mean feat. This chapter alone makes the book worth it. But wait, there's more! We finally get rules for creating traps and minions, rules for running games without magical items, and rules for creating companion characters to fill out missing roles in the party. There is also an entire chapter on designing and running skill challenges, with plenty of detailed examples for DMs who feel mystified by this new mechanic. The monster creation rules have gotten some needed tweaking and streamlining as well.

Add to this new artefacts, new monster templates, ideas for campaign arcs, new terrain, new traps, and a horde of other useful stuff, and the book more than justifies its own existence. The only section that really let me down was the one on sigil. It's been so boiled down that a lot of what made that setting special is gone. Newbies who never saw the original planescape likely won't care, but those of us who knew the old setting know how much got lost in boiling this down to a few score pages.

Overall, though, this is a supplement well-worth your money.

A very solid book throughout, as much for the advice on techniques and food for thought as the crunchy bits. Which are pretty nice, too, by the way.

The book provides some good alternatives to magic item progression, for those who find that undesirable, and also some good nuts-and-bolts type advice for building traps and skill challenges (as well as a number of sample plug-and-play challenges you can adapt very easily). The Sigil section is very well done; it captures the feel of the old Planescape material without being overwhelming for those who've not had the pleasure of reading about it before. My only complaint with that section is that there's a lot of Cant slipped in, but no centralized place to look it up so you can use it when adventuring there. STill, that's a minor complaint; there's still plenty of resources for that kind of thing on the interwebs.

All in all, an awesome book. Would definitely recommend to any DM who wants to up their game.

The advice from Robin Laws is worth it alone, but when you add on top of that character boons, good skill challenge advice (and errata), and excellent Paragon Tier play breakdowns...well I can't recomend this book enough.

Consider this DMG: Advanced for DM's looking to take their core D&D 4E games beyond the basic game.

This book was excellent, and gave me tons of ideas for my Campaign. In addition, it opened my eyes to things I can improve, and ways to get my players more involved in every aspect of the game. I cannot recommend this book enough, and it is still completely relevant with the release of Essentials products.

The one thing I must say is that the skill check DC table has been erratad and the updated version is available online at wizards site and also in the Rules Compendium (another great product).

I recommend this book for every DM wanting to taking their Campaign to the next level. Well done, WoTC!

I already own DMG1 but that book just covers the basics of being DM.
I was looking for more information and guiding on traps and especially skill challenges.
DMG2 is exactly giving me those things.
It's a great enhancement on the DMG1, so if you enjoy being a DM, this is the book for you.

I am most likely not the norm here. I happen to play and like both 4e and Pathfinder, each for different reasons. Steak maybe great but I wouldn't want to eat it every night and my game tastes are equally varied. All this being said this book has a lot to offer for any game. The first chapter on getting the group to help explain why they are a group instead of the old "you meet in a tavern" is worth the cost of this book alone. The further info on insight into what types of player you have and how to engage them and get them to help you run a better game is also something even a veteran Dm can benefit from. The new terrain types and trap sections spice up the 4e experience and are well thought out. I liked the alternate rewards system and again can see how it can be used in just about any situation with minimal tinkering. The templates were okay, but I admit I haven't had a chance to try them out yet so I may not be giving them their due. To my mind the least useful part of the book was the info on Sigil. Don't get me wrong, it's well thought out and presented well but , it just won't fit in my game very well and as such had little I use for that part of the book. I don't know if reducing my rating by one star for that alone is "fair" or not but I think that chapter would have been more at home in a different book. What it all boils down to is I feel this book has info in it that anybody who narrates a game for whatever system or group could make use of.

This is easily one of the best books in the 4e library. I highly recommend this title. It doesn't stand on it's own like the firs DMG, but it is indispensable. It's loaded with all kinds of good stuff for newbie DMs and veterans alike.

Overall, I'm glad I purchased this guide. I kinda knew what I was in for though. Compared to Dungeon Master resources in other games such as Exalted, the D&D master's guide is more geared towards introduction of DM concepts and suggesting ideas for interesting storytelling. I bought this book for the ideas and concepts provided, because I run my campaigns on the fly, and give my PC's the option to do whatever they want. This book is very useful for that type of RP'ing. I could use this book as an aid, usually when the players take an unexpected turn away from the normal questline, to help flesh out their new destination, the NPC's they encounter, and provide some fun plot elements.

This book was also useful when one of the less experienced players in our group wanted to give a shot at running his own campaign. I've even used this book for its storytelling ideas when running campaigns in gaming worlds other than D&D.

The DMG will teach you how to run the game. The DMG2, however, will teach you how to run the game WELL. While it won't fix every problem with the game, it certainly does a good job at making things run smoother for the DM and the players. The intimidating Skill Challenge system has been rebalanced, making it easier to succeed, but less tolerant of failures. The Distracted status helps push metagaming players back into their character's motivations by imposing penalties for actions that make good mechanical sense, but are very out of character (a problem that plagues my group). Inherent bonuses strengthen your characters WITHOUT having to rely on magic weapons. The section on customizing monsters is very handy, focusing on making monsters hit harder rather than dragging out fights. Overall, this is a very good addition, and I have a hard time imagining someone not benefiting from it.