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Echoes of Decimation
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11 of 11 people found the following review helpful
on March 27, 2005
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Origin's second album, 'Informis Infinitas Inhumanitas' was a fairly impressive and utterly insane and unrelenting Death/Grind album. Their third album, 'Echoes of Decimation' improves on that album on every level, and is probably even more unrelentingly fast and intense than 'III' was. Frankly, I think this album is taking Death/Grind about as far as it can go. Sure, you could play even faster and even louder, but this is extreme enough on both fronts that I don't think it would make much of a difference. Of course, just being really fast and really intense isn't enough, or really very interesting in and of itself. Unlike many, many DM bands, Origin writes consistently excellent riffs on this album, and they're about as varied as you could hope considering the overall speed of the album. They play trem-riffs most of all, but they slip in quite a bit of muted, chunkier stuff and some nice licks and arpeggios. And though I don't know if much of anything on here is exactly melodic, it's not self-conciously anti-melodic like some DM bands tend to be, and the guitar tone is sharp enough that you can always tell what's going on. The riffing might actually be a bit more straightforward than on `III' but it's definitely more consistently interesting, and it is still pretty damn insane and tech. They don't have any real solos on this album, but I really don't think they are necessary or even appropriate for this sort of material.

The rightly lauded Jason Longstreh is no longer with the band, but his replacement, James King is just about his equal. Personally, I don't find DM drumming to be the most interesting sort, but King is damn impressive, no doubt about it. He might be even faster than Longstreh, such as at certain points when he doubles the double-kick line on the snare, while using only one hand. (listen to the latter part of 'Debased Humanity') Like Longstreh, he manages to play blast-beat speed riffs nearly from beginning to end, while still actually using quite a few different beats. Not all the drum parts sound wildly different, of course, but they aren't nearly as monontonous as they'd often be when you get going this fast.

The biggest improvement would have to be in the vox. They sound pretty much the same, combining the low growl with a raspier shriek, and I still find the shriek to be merely passable while the growl is somewhat sub par. The vocal lines themselves, however, are much, much better. On 'III' they had way, way too much ultra-fast jabbering where they just try and spit out 10 syllables a second. Hyperspeed singing like that always sounds like crap, and they did it all the damn time on 'III'. On 'Echoes of Decimation' they toned it done a bit, with some steadier, slower vocal lines with a bit more rhythmic variation to them. They still do some silly, overly-clipped jabbering every once in a while, and it still generally doesn't sound to great to me, but it's definitely a whole lot better in small doses, used as contrast to the slower stuff.

The songs go by awful quick, as half of the tracks are under 2 1/2 minutes, and the whole thing is only 26 1/2 minutes long. Normally I like long tracks, but here the shorter the better. Make `em much longer and they'll either be too repetitious or you'll never be able to remember a damn thing about the album. Here, the tracks are totally mad, but short enough that you can cling to a couple of riffs and make sense of the album as a whole.

Yes, that's it. Very, very good DM album.

(God, this has got to be the driest review I've ever written. Oh well.)
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
on July 15, 2006
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Lots of people talk crap on origin, or say things like "this cd sux get their second one"

they don't have a bad CD.. fact is if you don't like them then they are probably just too heavy for you.

Origin is the heaviest, all 3 of their CDs are 5 stars. The way i would describe them is that the newest CD (this one) has the most production quality (+a different drumming style/drummer), and the first one has a more Raw under-produced sound (which is not a bad thing at all), while the second CD seems to mix the production/rawness quite nicely.

all the cds are different and unique enough to keep me listening to all 3, and all their songs have enough melody/clarity to the point that the songs Do sound different if you listen enough, where as some bands focused on speed in their music all seem to have songs that sound the same. The 2 vocalists have enough voice and tone so they too are instruments instead of just a monotone-vocal death band.

A Must have for any tech/brutal death metal fan.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
on March 15, 2005
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Origin has truly outdone themselves, I picked this album up today, the first day of its release, in high expectations, and am happy to say it fck'n tore me to peices. It is phenomenal. I had my doubts that anyone could replace john longstreth (the old drummer) but man does James King do it brilliantly. Now, for the guitarists..Paul Ryan, Clint Appelhanz and Mike Flores(bass) have progressed to a state that is simple inhuman. Simply put, no one today can keep up with them. To tie it all together, the sophisticated three-way vocal onslaught led by Vocalist James Lee fits the music beautifly... like a squirrel being hit with a hammer.

If you like origin I highly recomend Cephalic Carnage,

Cryptopsy, Circle of Dead Children, Nile, the Yattering, etc. etc. etc....

-Kevin from MA
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
on March 12, 2006
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Mark Manning's vocals on this, Origin's fourth full length, are quite generic (alternating between low death metal grumbles and high shrieks has been done by many other bands.) But that doesn't stop this from being a very unique record! "Echoes of Decimation" runs like a precise, well-oiled machine. Every song on here has the exact same qualities as the song that came before it: head-rattling, brutal barrages of complex, hyper-speed blast beats, careening guitars, and impenetrable rhythm sections. Therefore, every song on "Echoes of Decimation" bleeds over into the next one, so this album doesn't really have individual tracks--it's just one long song. Upon close inspection, there are a few memorable highpoints, like the thunderous "Amoeba," "Debased Humanity" (which has one of the album's many rapid fire/jackhammer rhythms), and the slow breakdown during the title track. But, for the most part, this 26-minute onslaught races by so fast that, when it's over, all the listener remembers is one long, black blur. That's OK, though, because what this album lacks in standout tracks and memorable songwriting, it makes up for in lightning fast velocity, sheer brutality, and extremely tight, technical and impressive musicianship. "Echoes of Decimation" definitely won't appeal to everybody (even some metalheads will be alienated by the lack of standout tracks), but you never know until you try it. And once you get used to it (and give it a couple of fair spins before dismissing it), you should realize that this was not only one of the most unique metal albums of 2005, and there has also probably not been a death metal album like this since Deicide's "Once Upon The Cross" was released in 1995.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
on March 10, 2008
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This is one of the best metal albums of all time. It is unrelenting, brutal and contagious. At full volume, this is an aural heart attack embedded in 30 -some minutes of fast pace riffs and hyper blast beats. This is probably the fastest ive heard anyone play coherent metal. If faster is better, than this album is the best.

The vocal style is great, forget what everyone is saying. Everyone is used to talking growls with no real rhythmic connection to the music. The monster cadences in both high and low versions is awesome, because it actually matches the guitars and drums.

The lyrical content is great. Its no Behemoth-style ritual in blasphemy or Cannibal Corpse-esqe gorefest, but it is pure doom and destruction.

Are there standout tracks? Yes all of them. The reason why its a little dissatisfying is because its too fast and thus too short and by the end you are still craving more.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
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i bought "echos of decimation" the day it came out and ive gotta say its one of the most brutal cds i own and it hasnt left my cd player in my truck,, this is a must have for any hardcore heavy metal head, definetly not for the faint of heart, these guys are the hardest of the hardest, pure genius and impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
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Origin is without a doubt one of the most brutal bands you will ever hear. Seemingly using every album to attempt breaking speed records, and that includes drumming, vocals and album length. This is their third album and if you heard Origin before, you know what to expect. This is ridiculously ferocious death metal that takes no prisoners and barrages the listener within seconds. But that is all you get! Barring the occasional sound clip, you will hear nothing but the Cannibal Corpse-on-speed athletics carnival that the band are renowned for.

I thought maybe these guys would be ready to make a standout album by now. I mean, they obviously have talent to burn. But listening to "Echoes of Decimation" is just a chore. The same guitar trills and hammers are backed up by a constant hammering of blast beats and double bass, while the vocalist sings at a 1000 words a minute over the top. Every track ends up sounding exactly the same. They really need to inject some other ingredients into their music to make it interesting. Slowing down occasionally would make the fast sections more brutal and actually writing a groove or an interlude or something is surely not too much to ask.

Maybe there's a whole group of fans out there that just enjoy this kind of ripping, no messing around death metal, but I personally require much more these days, especially when I've been listening to bands like Nile, Opeth or Nevermore. These bands may be selling at a different store in the metal market, but comparing their latest releases to this makes it look so completely redundant and uninspired. Add to that the fact that the album has a running time of 26 minutes, makes this very bad value for money. I know "Reign in Blood" went for only 29 minutes, but Slayer's genius more than made up for that. This is all over before I've had a chance to find anything interesting.

So, I hereby grant Origin an award for being a seriously brutal death metal act and acknowledge that they can batter the majority of the opposition into a bloody pulp. Now go and write a good metal album!
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
on April 27, 2005
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Origin continue there technical death metal assault with echoes of decimation, there third release and arguably there best to date. This album is great if your into extreme music of the highest order, think hate eternal a couple of gears faster and you've got the general idea here. If it's variety your looking for then i wouldn't recommend this at all, it's just to one gear to be honest i couldn't sit through it all, i had to get up and take a break it was just too much to handle at first, but now i've grown to embrace it more.

As far as songs go there served up in 2to3 minute slabs slapped together by good production and uncanny musicianship (all origin fans know that goes without saying) Standout tracks are The burner, Deceased humanity, Cloning the stillborn, and Designed to expire
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
on November 5, 2005
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Wow this is heavy. I had never really heard this band until recently when I bought this and it really laid me out. The technicality and skill that these guys have is very impressive. The guitarists don't have any 'solos,' per se, but much of what they are doing under verses could count as such-tons of sweeps. Most of the riffing is tremolo picking, very few actual chords. The drummer is insane, and brings to mind a speed crazed Flo Mounier. The vocals are very well done and also varied, from uber-low growls to banshee-high shrieks. Overall, I am very impressed. Highly recommended.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
on March 30, 2005
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If you enjoyed the previous Origin albums, then you'll enjoy this one as well. Same relentless sound with two different vocals. Origin has succeeded on improving their sound and it's so powerful it's overwhelming, which is a good thing.

4 and 1/2 stars. Not 5 because I thought it was too short, only 26 minutes. But it delivers exactly as you would expect from a band of this caliber. Buy with no fear.
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