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Get the Edge at Craps (Scoblete Get-The-Edge Guide)

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On a recent trip to Las Vegas, I stopped by the Gambler's Book Store for a look. The gentleman there asked if he could help me, and when I replied that I was just looking to see what was new out there, he opined that there was really nothing new to be written in gaming for the traditional table games.

I would like to think that Sharpshooter's book is something new. Sure, controlled or rhythmic throwing and setting are not new topics. What is new is the integration of all elements and presents to the crap player with an open mind the actual techniques that can be done by anyone willing to put in the time to practice and fully understand and integrate all that is presented. While another reviewer mentions that more in depth presentations have been made by other authors such as Scoblete and others, I doubt if any of them presents it in as systematic and as simple as Sharpshooter does here.

There are people that believe that all dice throws are random and nothing we can do can influence that. This book will probably not change your mind. But to those that are open, there are mathematical and logical presentations, as well as rigid mechanics arguments that would have you think that it can be possible. For those that are open to that, this book will detail exactly how you can learn to do it.

As a disclaimer, I have to reveal that I have taken a course taught by Sharpshooter and have seen these things in a casino, as well as had a beginning level of success commensurate to my experience. I will say that the book contains almost everything that was presented in the course materials, with nothing held back. I am a health professional, and my educational background is strongly weighted in the science and mathematical fields. The arguments that Sharpshooter presents are mathematically and physically sound. Everything that Sharpshooter presents in his seminar is here, save the personal instruction on your personal mechanics.

You will not be able to control the dice 100% of the time. Even Randy Johnson doesn't strike out every single batter he faces. But by controlling the outcome of as little as 1 throw in 43 will put you at break even with the casino. Any better than this yields a positive edge in the casino. Compare that to what card counters experience as an edge in blackjack.

For someone that is looking for a different approach to craps than the standard money management angles, this is a book that can give them something new.

I read this book cover to cover in the two weeks preceding a trip to Vegas. It has some great information regarding the game of craps and sharpshooting but definitely has some biases on what part of the table to shoot from and dice grips that could have been approached differently. After getting through the book I setup a small practice rig, rolled and recorded hundreds of dice throws attempting to use this method of shooting the dice. I will say that it does have an effect on the end result because I recorded ratios of how often the 7 came up far below the average 1 in 6.

A couple of years ago I started to set the dice (now that I know proper sets these were wrong combos) as well as throw them the same way as possible every time. Which lead me to become interested in anything that could be done to expand knowledge in this area, after getting through this book I felt I understood the concept quite a bit more but was still skeptical of it actually working. I signed up for a private class in Vegas and had some personal instruction along many practice rolls on a real craps table. Using the hardway set (described in the book as 4 4 up and 6 6 facing the outside) I rolled a total of 3 craps numbers out of 200 shots with a sevens to roll ratio of around 1:12 (which is extremely high and will most likely average lower over a longer period of time). The thing that surprised me is the drastic decrease of the craps numbers by placing the 6 and the 1 on the outside of the dice (craps numbers are 2, 3 and 12 - taking the 1 and 6 out of the equation makes it very hard to roll a craps number) with that particular set.

I was also able to play in an actual casino with 2 other sharpshooters and noticed we were the only ones who made profits for anyone betting with the dice. The rest of the time we bet against them and counted on the other shooters to 7 out every time. This of course isn't a science (betting on other shooters) since sometimes they will go into streaks. On my last night in Vegas I also ended up shooting 28 passes, made 5 point numbers and came out with a 7 twice when I set for it. Players at the table who religiously bet against the dice actually switch sides on my roll or picked up and left the table all together. I wasn't able to get any of the good positions stated in the book of stick right or left, even one off from either position at any time that night. Which forced me to shoot from the outside hook or corner of the table, I was still able to pull it off to some degree.

Even though I had a spectacular hand in one casino, I am still in the infancy stage of sharpshooting the dice which is also referred to as "Dice Control". You will find that you cant really control the dice but you can influence them and decrease your odds of rolling the 7 at the wrong time. I recommend reading this book as well as signing up for a class. The additional tips I learned with the one on one instruction helped me a great deal as well as reinforced techniques in the book. The book really is not enough to conquer the Craps table, but is essential before even starting down this path of craps play.

I was overwhelmed by the rating of this book and had a "B I G" expectation from this book but I was disappointed because of the following reasons:

1) Author discusses the art of physically "controlling" the dice without a real picture !! He added some picture for dice setting but as far as the gripping and shooting are concerned there are only two "free hand" drawing (can you believe ? amateurish free hand pencil drawing) to "make you understand" the correct grip and throw - two most important aspects of dice control.

2) Why he gave less info on the most critical aspect? Because he conducts a costly seminar on the same topic ($300) and this book is nothing but the "sales pitch" of the same seminar.

3) I found more information on dice setting and dice grip FREE on the following website: dicecoach dot com

Bottom line: You will learn nothing about dice control after you finish this book.

Suggestion : Buy the book "Forever Craps" to learn the game and then take a dice control seminar (if you are serious about gambling and can afford $300 on a 2 hour seminar). Save $10 bucks!

I expected this book to be better than it was. I found Sharpshooter's writing a little laborious and he took way too much time retelling rather dull tales of his great rolls. That's the downer part of the book. If you aren't a good writer, you should stay away from telling your great stories because those stories are dull when read.

On the other hand the book is quite good giving the basics of a controlled throw and has excellent math in it but overall the book was something of a disappointment. The best part of the book was the Foreword by Frank Scoblete who has an exciting style of writing.

I am actually looking forward to the new dice control book "The Golden Touch Dice Control Revolution!" written by Frank Scoblete and Dominator.

I have read all the important books on dice advantage play: "Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos," "Forever Craps," and "The Craps Underground." These three were all outstanding books and I would recommend that you read them in this order.

I do recommend that you read Sharpshooter's book but AFTER you read the others I mention above. It is somewhat slow going owing to Sharpshooter's writing style but he has good information in the book. It is not a complete attack on the casino game of craps as Scoblete's books are but it is still a valuable book to read.

There are some other books out there on craps but none of them are really worth buying. Some are just plain awful, including others that try to teach dice control. Stick with Scoblete and Sharpshooter for now and then get the new book about the golden touch craps by Scoblete and Dominator.

That is your craps curriculum.

After reading "Get the Edge at Craps", I finally realize what I have witnessed first hand while vacationing on different occasions in Las Vegas. SharpShooter does know what he is talking about. He even details the experience and the confluences that shape the outcome of the dice.
What I like best about the book is the fact that you can pick it up right away and easily read through it and later get into greater detail about the many variables that contribute to a great roll of the dice. Frank Scoblete is to be commended for his great editorial talents in polishing this book. Second of all, I don't think the casinos really understand the legitimacy of SharpShooters' method that anyone can learn. This book will definitely improve your game and give the average player a perceived advantage in something that is otherwise a random event.
The method that works for me is the three and two V-setup after the point is established plus the box cars aligned on the Come-Out roll. I am still working on a smooth delivery however which does take time to master?
The details about the physics involved in throwing the dice are intriguing to anyone mechanically inclined. The history and craps fundamentals are also especially helpful to the novice and professional alike.
If you want to play like a pro or pretend to know what you are doing then the $10+ dollars is well spent on this book. The casinos will always invent ways to keep the advantage that they have over everyone who comes to play. The methods described by SharpShooter can only level the playing field in a game that is fast-paced to begin with where money is won or lost in the span of a few minutes not hours.

This text is an excellent one for anyone interested in dice control. It explains all the basics of betting craps, but the real meat is the second part. A complete explanation of controlled shooting is given, along with a training schedule, statistical tests, and advanced dice sets. A MUST READ for anyone attempting to beat the game of craps.

I've read a great deal of material on dice setting and controlled throwing. The early books on this same subject, though not as slick looking, address this topic more fully. If you want the real deal on dice setting and rhythmn rolling, stick with the classic books which started it all, Scoblete, Feinberg and Kononenko. Very disappointed.

The book is just bragging about his ability and trying to convince you to take the seminar to actually learn "the secrets". Don't waste your money.

I just took the Golden Touch craps dice control course with Sharpshooter and Frank Scoblete in Tunica, Mississippi. This book and Frank's Forever Craps were the text books for the course. They are must reading if you want to learn the basics of dice control and how to bet on random rollers when they are shooting. I also recommend their course. You can go to their website ... to find out more about it, but don't take the course until you have thoroughly read this book and Scoblete's book. They are both great books.

Frank Scoblete mentions in his foreword that Sharpshooter has picked up where the Captain of craps has left off. After reading this book TWICE already I have to agree. The only way to beat craps is through controlled shooting, or, as Scoblete calls it, rhythm rolling. Sharpshooter goes into every aspect of how to do this. You learn about the proper grip, the proper dice sets, and how to gently throw the dice so that your sets stay in order. I have to say this book is right up there with Scobletes book Forever Craps because Sharpshooter is talking about real ways to get an edge on the casinos and not just betting systems. This is a must read for anyone who is the least bit serious about craps. In my opinion, its an instant classic.