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32 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars National Pastime as Greek Tragedy, July 30, 2004
By Theo Logos (Pittsburgh, PA) - See all my reviews
From the first paragraph to the last sentence of this gripping book, Asinof grabs your interest and doesn't let go. The story he is telling is fascinating - a tale of talented but clueless ballplayers, manipulating gamblers, money-hungry owners, and corrupt politicians, all coming together to create the greatest scandal the world of baseball has known. He tells it with clear, clean prose that keeps the story moving through every detail to its tragic conclusion.
The eight disgraced ballplayers who threw the 1919 World Series have been dubbed the Black Sox for posterity, yet with two exceptions, they are the most sympathetic characters in the whole sordid story. Chick Gandil, the tough first baseman who hatched the scheme, and his friend Swede Risberg, nasty tempered shortstop, who needed no prodding to join in, don't come off well. The rest of the crew, however, seem to have joined in a half-hearted, hapless manner. Particularly tragic are Shoeless Joe Jackson, one of baseball's greatest all-time hitters, whose talent was only exceeded by his naivete, and Buck Weaver, the outstanding thirdbaseman whose only real fault was his loyalty to his friends in not reporting the scheme, as he took no part in throwing the games, and accepted no money. These clueless, grossly underpaid ballplayers, most of who profited little or nothing from the fix, were the only ones punished for the scandal that rocked the nation.
The tale of the gamblers involved is as fascinating as it is telling. Three distinct levels of gamblers were present in the fix. Sleepy Bill Burns was an ex-ballplayer and small time gambler who did the legwork, consulting with the players. He went bust and was double-crossed by both the gamblers above him and Chick Gandil. Abe Attell and Sport Sullivan were a level up on the gambler's food chain - they had some access to the big time boys, but were not part of that exclusive club. Through constant maneuvering and double-dealing, and calculated risk taking, they were able to walk away from the scheme with a tidy profit. Arnold Rothstein was the big time. His money backed the fix, yet he took almost no personal risk, and emerged completely unscathed from the whole nasty affair while turning a huge profit. Big fish eat little fish, no matter what the ocean.
Finally, the least likeable characters of this tragic, real life morality play were Charles Comiskey, owner of the White Sox, and the rest of the baseball owners. For years they had turned a blind eye to the corruption of gambling in the game rather than expose it and risk the popularity of their sport and the profits in their ticket sales. When the fix of the World Series exploded across newspaper headlines, and they could no longer hide their dirty secrets, they used all their wealth and connections, buying off elected officials, and even colluding with the gamblers behind the fix, to protect their reputations and profits. It was their power, their lawyers, their money, that presented eight ballplayers as the scapegoats for national outrage, while willingly sacrificing true justice and exposure of their own hypocrisy. After reading this book, you may be left shaking your head that Charles Comiskey is in the Hall of Fame, and Shoeless Joe Jackson is forever banned from that hallowed hall.
Eight Men Out is a story of baseball, crime, and legal maneuvering. It is a window into the workings of power, and a cautionary tale of the corruption of the American dream and the twisting of justice by powerful interest. Most of all, it is an American tragedy of lives and reputations ruined, dreams shattered, and potential unfulfilled, that is as fascinating as it is sad.
If you are interested in baseball, American history, or the sociology of American society, you should read this book. You will not be disappointed.

Theo Logos
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19 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars a dated classic perhaps, but a classic, December 6, 2000
By J. K. Kelley "literary mercenary" (Eastern WA, United States) - See all my reviews
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In its time (1965) this book really blew the lid off the long-sanitized version of the Black Sox scandal available to the public. Its readability, depth and refusal to glorify any of the participants are what make it the starting point for any baseball lover seeking the true story of the whole sordid affair. Its placement in greater historical context is especially well done; the reader is reminded that it did not occur in a vacuum. WWI was just over, Prohibition was coming, and the dominant national mood was 'we're very noble, we won the Great War' (all historical debatability of that point aside). Game-throwing was nothing new to baseball, as Asinof points out, but the idea that a full third of a team would throw a World Series was a body blow to what had become somewhat of an egotistical nation.

While some new information has come to light in the last thirty-five years, it has only supplemented what Asinof learned--to my knowledge none of it has been refuted. Considering the number of basements and old offices likely cleared out in the intervening time, and at least one definitely pertinent discovery that I'm aware of (the Grabiner notes), this is quite an accomplishment. Recommended both as baseball history and as a portrait of a lusty, turbulent time.

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17 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Baseball History. Great Writing., September 1, 1998
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I thought this was an excellent read that I found hard to put down. It is rightly ranked by Roger Kahn ("The Boys of Summer") as one of the best 10 baseball books of all time. No matter how much you know about baseball, this book gives a great background on what being a ball player was like during the first two decades of the century. While it is true it is hard to sympathize with today's athletes who seem to be loyal to the highest salary, this book makes it hard not to sympathize with players who were subject to the salaries imposed upon them and whose only recourse was to sit out. There was no free agency in those days and under the reserve clause a player was at the whim of the team's owner. If he didn't like his pay he could choose not to play for that team, but the owner would also make sure he couln't play for any team. While not condoning gambling by players or throwing games (especially in the World Series), it is hard not to understand the temptations faced by many players who were underpaid, near the end of their careers and with no other skills other than baseball. In those days before social security and major league pensions, a bribe of more than your annual salary and the chance to get even at the owner who, in your eyes, was exploiting you, must have been very tempting indeed.

The book certainly makes you feel sympathetic toward "Shoeless" Joe Jackson and Buck Weaver. Like Pete Rose, these two players probably deserve some of the forgiveness that we're so proud of. Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame and Weaver's name should be cleared.

The writing is superb. It gives us a good feel for the intensity surrounding a World Series, the world of gamblers and the world of sportswriters. It also shows that all the good things about baseball and its traditions are the same today as they were then and serve as a connecting thread through generations.

See the movie again afterwards. It is very faithful to the book.

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11 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Superb Research, Gripping Tale, November 3, 2001
This gripping expose' captures the feel of America in 1919. Author Elliot Asinof shows how the White Sox players (rather, infielder Chick Gandil) first approached the gamblers, and how the fixed World Series proceeded amidst threats, misunderstandings and double-crosses. We also read about the player's 1921 trial for conspiracy, noting that the gamblers escaped unscathed. I liked the author's portraits of conspiring players Eddie Ciccotte and Shoeless Joe Jackson (who's guilt seems modified), the unfairly banished Buck Weaver, and innocent teammates like Ray Schalk and Eddie Collins. Asinof correctly co-indicts baseball's reserve clause and Sox owner Charles Comiskey. The cold-hearted Comiskey precipitated the scandal by grossly underpaying his talented athletes in that already low-wage era. One senses parallels to modern college point-shaving scandals; bitter athletes fixing scores to grab a slice of the pie unfairly denied them.

Since this book first appeared in 1963, free agency boosted player salaries, the missing grand jury confessions surfaced (in offices of Comiskey's late attorney), and this book's movie plus FIELD OF DREAMS brought the scandal to recent light. One thing hasn't changed; the underdog White Sox still have been in just one one World Series (which they lost)in all the years since 1919.
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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Recap of Baseballs Darkest Days, June 20, 2001
By Joseph C. Landon Jr. (Lewisville, TX United States) - See all my reviews
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I thoroughly enjoyed reading this book. I only knew of the Black Sox Scandal of 1919 on a superficial level. This book gives you the details of all the conversations, meetings, and actions that took place between the players, gamblers, and management which led to 8 players of the Chicago White Sox baseball susposedly throwing the 1919 World Series. Asinof has surprising detail of conversations that took place and talks about each person involved as if he knew them personally. You wonder how he received all this info in the age before tape recorders and microphones were prevalent. He certainly did impressive research and the book should be commended for that.

What he doesn't do is take sides and seems to write the book as a distant observer. But at the end you seem to feel somewhat sorry for some of the players involved, especially the ones among the eight (Buck Weaver, Joe Jackson) who didn't necessarily throw their games but were banned for life anyway because of their knowledge of the conspiracy. What would you have done in their position?

Overall, it's most likely the best summary of one of the most incredible and darkest events in sports history. It's must read for all sports fans.

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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars This is the Best Book I have ever read, April 17, 2002
By "jpark1917" (Dunwoody, Georgia USA) - See all my reviews
Maybe that is an exaggeration. Regardless, the work so effectively completes the picture of the 1919 world series scandal. The writing is clear and vivid. No background information about the scandal or baseball is necessary to enjoy this book. The novel expresses the historical portrait of post WWI and pre depression America, with unregulated gambling and little unionization. The use of media and press in sports and scandal of this trial beckons how media, sports, and scandals are related today. I hope everybody gets a chance to read at least one page, because you can't put it down afterwards.
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Do you want the real story? Start reading "Eight Men Out"!, June 12, 2001
By eric m eichelkraut (woodridge, il United States) - See all my reviews
This book changed my entire philosophy behind the "Black Sox" scandal and the other related stories of that time frame. Asinof gives not only an accurate description of the 1919 World Series and its aftermath, but also delves into the other scandals of that era, making the reader further understand the circumstances surounding scandalous baseball. He brings new considerations to readers who have previously misunderstood and or misread about the times of Shoeless Joe and the other ball players of that time. After reading his book I find that most of the further reading I have done on the topic has been inaccurate or misleading. My personal desire to learn and eventually write on the topic of my favorite Black Sox player ultimately came from this wonderful book. I rate this book nothing less than the best; 5 stars. A great read for any sports enthusiast!
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars THE BLACKSOX SCANDAL!!!!!, May 20, 2001
By Jason Ryan Furrow (San Antonio, TX USA) - See all my reviews
Eliot Asinof's Eight Men Out gave an excellent depiction of the first World Series played after WWI. This series had everything, one of the greatest baseball teams of all time (Blacksox) playing a Reds team that was supposed to get swept. It also had the most famous scandal in baseball history, along with millions of baseball fans, after a devastating war, trying to watch a good wholesome series and forget what happened in WWI. Unfortunately they got a fixed series. It was a very unfortunate ending to the likely Hall of Fame careers of Buck Weaver and "Shoeless" Joe Jackson, but that's the price one must pay for gambling. The only reason why this book didn't get five stars was the lack of post trial coverage and careers after their early exit from baseball. Other than that I recommend this book to baseball fans of all ages and guarantee that no matter how much of a history buff you are you can learn something from this book.
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars A Quality Novel about a Sour Series, July 31, 1997
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Although not a work of fiction, Asinof establishes the antagonist, or scapegoat, in the fixing of the 1919 World Series as the owner of the Chicago White Sox, Charles Comisky. He blames Comisky and the low wages he provided as the reason the eight sold out on one of the great ballclubs of all-time. Asinof also puts the blame on the gamblers who used the ballplayers as pawns to get rich. But, ultimately participation in the scheme was the final and fatal decision that was made by 8 of the Sox. Some parts of the book, such as the post-trial, are a bit dry, but overall this is an easy-to-read, informative novel. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about such White Sox greats as Buck Weaver and Shoeless Joe Jackson and the 1919 World Series scandal in which they participated
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An incredible story and very well told, January 14, 2009
By Bradley Nelson (Minneapolis, MN) - See all my reviews
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The "Black Sox" scandal surrounding the 1919 World Series was one of the biggest news stories of its time. The powerful Chicago White Sox were expected to swiftly trounce the mediocre Cincinnati Reds. But eight of the best players on the White Sox conspired to lose the World Series; they were to be paid for losing and gamblers would place bets on the Reds at great odds, thus making a fortune.

Rumors ran wild during the Series and at times it looked like the whole deal might fall apart. Players weren't being paid, some of them weren't really even in the loop about which games were to be thrown. The players began to buck the gamblers, only receiving minimal payments to keep the deal from going belly-up. Still, the Sox lost the series and huge profits were made by gamblers.

It took nearly a year for the scandal to truly come to light and go to trial. While a couple players may have initiated the deal, they all ended up the losers. None of them were ever paid the money they were promised by the gamblers. No one ever went to jail, but the eight players were all banned from every playing baseball again. For some, this was fair, but for a couple, they never took a "dirty dime" and never made a dishonest play. But their knowledge of the plan left them all out in the cold.

This story is incredible and the author does a fantastic job of tying everything together. While reading this, it is amazing that the deal ever actually happened. No two hands ever seemed to know what the other was doing. The story is also still relevant today, and is such a fascinating tale that even those who aren't really fans of baseball will enjoy this book.
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