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95 of 95 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Pro 3800 vs R1800
I now own both the R1800 and the R3800 printers. I bought the R1800 a few years ago, shortly after it came out. This fall I attended a photo trade show in NYC. There were prints on display that were stunning and I got excited about upgrading my printer. There were two or three things I wanted. I wanted larger ink cartridges, so I wouldn't have to order replacements...
Published on December 12, 2007 by DonnaW

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46 of 49 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Good news-Bad news
We purchased the Professional version of the Stylus Pro 3800 which costs several hundred dollars more than the standard model.

Unfortunately, we are on our third printer. Presumably this was sheer bad luck that we got a couple of lemons. The first printer failed shortly after purchase. The second one suffered a serious paper jam and had to be taken into an...
Published on January 25, 2008 by Kenneth Robinson


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95 of 95 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Pro 3800 vs R1800, December 12, 2007
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This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
I now own both the R1800 and the R3800 printers. I bought the R1800 a few years ago, shortly after it came out. This fall I attended a photo trade show in NYC. There were prints on display that were stunning and I got excited about upgrading my printer. There were two or three things I wanted. I wanted larger ink cartridges, so I wouldn't have to order replacements after printing just a few large prints and I wanted a reduction in the cost of the ink. I wanted better quality in the grey scale. I wanted to not have to perform maintenance on the printer (cleaning etc) so often because this wastes ink. I wanted the best quality ink I could get. The thing that really tipped me over to buying this printer was the discovery that the R1800 does not use the same ink set as the professional printers and that the R1800 cannot produce good quality when printing black and white images because it lacks the additions black cartridges. The reason I didn't go with the R2400 was that I did not like the idea of having to switch black cartridges and the waste of ink involved. The 3800 produces great prints and the quality of the greyscale is a noticable improvement over the R1800. But I have to say that it is not as easy a printer to use. While the R1800 came with profiles that were right on target out of the box, I have had to make sure that my monitor is calibrated correctly for the prints to match and I even calibrated the printer. This was somewhat expensive, but I believe that these are necessary steps if you really want to have control over color and the quality of your prints. So, I would recommend this printer for people who want to take their work to the next level, or certainly, for professional photographers. But it is more work to really make use of the extra quality by fine tuning the profiles. I think in the end it will be worth it. The printer has a much larger footprint than the R1800 and it is quite heavy. It does not take a roll which is one downside. but it is able to take many types of paper and can be adjusted in ways the are impossible on the R1800. So, if you are a serious photographer or would be photographer and you want to print your own work to get the quality you want, then I recommend this printer. The R1800 is also capable of beautiful stunning output, but it feels more like a toy next to this printer. Also, one other thing. It comes with Epson support and the support is very very good. The first time I called I talked to them for almost an hour while they taught me about the various aspects of using the printer. You dont get that kind of support when you buy a printer targeted at the consumer market.
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87 of 88 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Exceeds expectations, December 11, 2006
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This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
Received the SP3800 on Dec6; it replaces an SP2200 which I have enjoyed. (I also use an SP R800 and SP960.) I have tried both Matte and glossy, 4X6 to (finally!) 17X22, and everything works as advertised. A very notable difference may be seen when comparing printouts side-by-side with those from the other printers--a subtle improvement in shading and coloring from the SP3800. I had not even noticed a deficiency in the earlier outputs. It seems trite to say it, but the 3800 output just seems "more realistic." I have one photo of a rainbow over Niagara Falls, with the walk below in deep shadow. The SP3800 shadow has enough shading subtleties that the objects on this walk may be discerned. In my case, the SP3800 gives me more than I expected.
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62 of 63 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars BEST EPSON UNDER $2000, November 28, 2007
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B. McGuigan (San Francisco, CA United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
I've had this printer for over 9 months now with very very heavy usage and it works flawlessly. If you only use epson ink and paper designed for inkjet printers (not just epson media, but also things like Illford, Hahnemuhle, Moab) with the downloaded ICC profiles off of their respective web sites you'll get stunning results. I've printed maybe 5k pages out of this thing (some full bleed solid browns on 17x22) and have only replaced the light light black cartridge so far. The money you save on ink versus other printers is a selling point by itself. I upgraded from a 1280 and have used the 1800 and 2400 but this is by far the best and easiest printer to use. No more wrestling with paper settings or paper sizes... it just works.
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46 of 49 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Good news-Bad news, January 25, 2008
This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
We purchased the Professional version of the Stylus Pro 3800 which costs several hundred dollars more than the standard model.

Unfortunately, we are on our third printer. Presumably this was sheer bad luck that we got a couple of lemons. The first printer failed shortly after purchase. The second one suffered a serious paper jam and had to be taken into an Epson service center (across the state I might add). They repaired it while my wife waited. However, it failed almost immediately upon being put back in service.

On a positive note, Epson customer service has been excellent and when the printer works it produces excellent quality prints. However, it seems to have a paper feeding system prone to catastrophic jams and it does not do well with thick papers. Since this is supposed to be a professional model the inability to handle thick specialty papers and to use the full range of feeding options has been a major disappointment.

We just put the third printer into service and it has worked with a few simple test prints. Maybe this one will be OK.

We have owned a number of Epson printers over the years and this has been the only model that has been unreliable.
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27 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent printer, but build quality is average, September 22, 2007
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I had to exchange the first 3800 I bought because the tiny plastic clasp that holds the front cover closed was broken. My previous 2200 had a much better closing mechanism. However, the replacement printer's door stays closed (knock on wood) and the print quality is superb. The Epson inks, despite costing an arm/leg, are the best out there. Plus, the supplied ICC profiles supplied for Epson papers are also excellent. So, overall, I give the 3800 a five rating. I just wish the build quality was better.
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26 of 26 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Amateur photography and printing on the 3800, March 3, 2008
This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
I am an amateur photographer and have made the financial decision to take my work to the next level. This included purchasing this printer as well as the new Nikon D300 DSLR. I wanted to be able to take very high image quality pictures and then print them out at various sizes at a quality that would match any studio.

The first printer that was shipped to me had to be returned as some internal parts were trapped on the first print job by the print head and jammed up the printer. Not a great beginning.

The second printer arrived within days. I printed another test print and this one made it through the printer! However, the colors were completely off from what I saw on the display versus what appeared on the print.

I'd just learned my first lesson about controlling the process end-to-end (photo to print) and that was that color management was more than a maybe. It's a MUST.

I then purchased a kit to calibrate both the monitor and the printer (even though the printer ships with a print profile). After calibration and following some very specific steps on each and every print job, I now get reliably correct prints. And they're beautiful!

If you're considering this printer, be aware of the following three key issues:

1) You stand a chance of getting one with mechancial problems and will need to have a replacement.

2) You will also likely run into issues of color management. If you don't know what that is I'd highly recommend you read up on it.

3) If you haven't yet, you will now notice the imperfections of your captured images and will want to upgrade your camera gear because this printer creates excellent renditions of your photographs. IF your images are clear and sharp, so will the prints.

Bottom line, in spite of the issues I ran into using this printer, I'd do it all over again and would recommend it highly.
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32 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A stunning ++ Printer Follow-up! 2/4/08, May 24, 2007
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This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
It is amazing what this printer can do with a high quality 5MP file on a 17x22. Most who see the results are quite surprised. Fast - well made and very easy to use. Very pleased - I am a regular home type photographer. The colors are beautiful - the renditions smooth and sharp! I have had this printer for 8+ months now. (follow-up 2/04/08)I am a very low volume family photographer - one who would tend not to buy this printer. I remain very pleased - some clogged heads and easy to clean. I shake the carts. every other month. The new print drivers cleared up the networking problems. The prints and the media choices are superb. So far so good! I just love the large prints.
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20 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Printer., January 9, 2008
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This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
Ive had this printer for over a year now, and its flawless. Wanted black and white prints that actually looked like black and white, with no color cast unless I put it there. It does that and more. 17x22's are beautiful. Its not a cheap printer, but ink savings are substantial considering the cost per ml is much lower than my previous 2200's Have already made my money back on this printer months ago from sales of framed photos, and photography is just a side thing for me now. If I could say anything bad at all about the 3800, it would probably be the cheap feeling output tray and front closing mechanism. Nothing has broken, but Im careful, it just feels kind of cheap. I expect better quality from Epson for a printer of this price. Because of this, I gave it 4 stars. As far as print quality, it gets a 5. You cant get bigger or better prints from any other manufacturer at this price.
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19 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Best printer for price., August 12, 2007
This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
The epson 3800 does exactly what I need it to. Print more prints than an amateur, with unflinching consistency, while keeping my costs down from the consumer level printers.
By using larger 80 ml cartridges vs. the consumer 10ml cartridges, my ink costs have been reduced by over 60%. And that's a nice savings in my business. Of course it's nice to be able to print larger 17x22,17x25, or with custom paper, up to 17x36 sheets. But I usually stick with the 16x24 max. After that I send my work out to a pro custom lab.

Finally, the reason I chose the 3800 over his big brother the 4000 is because of the size of the printer. the 4000 is a monster printer compared to the reserved footprint of the 3800. I have a small gallery that needs smart placement of my equip. The 3800 fits the bill perfectly.

Another great note is that because my gallery is located just 4 miles west of Portola, CA. just an hour or so from Reno, NV. I get most of my shipments from Amazon within a day or two with the free ground shipping option!
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20 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Much to like but one setup challenge, August 7, 2007
This review is from: Epson Stylus Pro 3800 Printer Standard Model Photo Printer (Office Product)
I just bought the printer but had problems setting it up. My first prints (on Epson Ultra Premium Luster Paper) came out smudged and had rows of little pin pricks on them. I had to call Technical Support (very good - especially that Epson has a special service for professional printers) to get talked through widening the platen gap. I have not yet found a permanent way to widen the gap - it starts out at standard width whenever I turn on the printer.

Colors and sharpness are very good. It's not very fast, but then other large format printers are probably slow too when printing an 11x14 at 1400 dpi.
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