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27 of 28 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Fun and interesting, but I got mixed results
If the poor condition of the library copy is any indication, Even More Top Secret Recipes is a very popular book!

Todd Wilbur has a number of books, and it can be a little confusing sorting them out. There are three "Top Secret Recipes" books, Top Secret Recipes, More Top Secret Recipes (this book) and Even More Top Secret Recipes. These books focus on what...
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38 of 42 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Worst of the series
I own all of the Top Secret books from Tood Wilbur, and this one is the absolute worst of the series. Contains repeats from previous books, and some from his website. A few new, but I was not impressed. If you are new to the Top Secret series, I would recommend the Restaurant Recipes, and the Soda/Smoothies one. They are the best of the series.
Published on April 5, 2003 by Donald H. Moore


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27 of 28 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Fun and interesting, but I got mixed results, August 1, 2004
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This review is from: Even More Top Secret Recipes: More Amazing Kitchen Clones of America's Favorite Brand-Name Foods (Mass Market Paperback)
If the poor condition of the library copy is any indication, Even More Top Secret Recipes is a very popular book!

Todd Wilbur has a number of books, and it can be a little confusing sorting them out. There are three "Top Secret Recipes" books, Top Secret Recipes, More Top Secret Recipes (this book) and Even More Top Secret Recipes. These books focus on what Wilbur calls "convenience foods." That is, most packaged sweets and fast food. He also has a book Top Secret Restaurant Recipes, in which he attempts to duplicate the foods of mostly casual dining restaurants like Chili's and Applebee's. He also has a book solely on drinks.

Wilbur explains in the Introduction of More Top Secret Recipes that these are not the actual recipes used by restaurants, and he did not obtain them through bribery, theft other illegal or illicit means. He starts with the ingredient list on packages of food and modifies the relative amounts, or with fast food, tries to identify the ingredients by taste. He admits that the real producers of these foods often use custom ingredients unavailable to the consumer, and that the goal was to match the texture and flavor of the food, and appearance is secondary.

So why try to clone commercially-available food? In both More Top Secret Recipes and Even More Top Secret Recipes, the author mentions availability. Some of the foods are regional, and you may not get them where you live. In the introduction to More Top Secret Recipes, he gives a list of reasons including low cost and curiosity. I'm not so sure about the cost argument, since I have to sacrifice two boxes of Macaroni and Cheese to make half a box of Cheese Nips, but the curiosity is what applied to me. I just wanted to know, "Can I really duplicate these commercial foods at home?"

This book contains 88 recipes, a big increase over the 37 of the previous book. The recipes clone the likes of McDonald's, Nabisco, Carl's Jr. and Taco Bell. Every recipe includes a history of the food item, something alone which makes this book valuable, and a dimensioned engineering graphic of the product. Even More Top Secret Recipes includes an interesting introduction discussing the fast food industry, and gives some tips on creating the clones. The recipes make as much use as possible of premade food and mixes. For example, most candy bars are coated with melted chocolate chips, so you will not find that you have to crush cocoa beans, or perform any such low-level task.

From this book, so far, I attempted to make Girl Scout Thin Mint cookies, (I AM a Girl Scout after all. Really. My wife signed me up. It was a surprise to me, too!) and Nabisco Cheese Nips. The thin mints turned out pretty good. The flavor and texture were pretty close. The only problem is that the chocolate was a little thick. Applying it to a desired thickness is difficult. Also, the chocolate remained quite soft. A little more experimentation with cookie thickness and baking time and temperature might make the centers a little more consistent, too. The Cheese Nips are made using the cheese packets from Kraft Macaroni and Cheese (Cheese and Macaroni?). They turned out crispy, and although bright orange like the real thing before baking, turned out grayish-tan when done. Although crispy, they weren't light and bubbly like the real thing, but were more like crispy cookies. They needed to be cheesier. They tasted like the flour and shortening. They weren't bad, though, and my wife liked them, but they weren't much like Cheese Nips. A lot of recipes would benefit from the use of rolling pin rings to establish uniform dough thickness.

I also had mixed results with the recipes from More Top Secret Recipes. You can read my amazingly similar review on that book for more details.

Using this book was fun and informative. I've had mixed results using these books. In short, have fun, but don't expect miracles with every recipe.



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38 of 42 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Worst of the series, April 5, 2003
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Donald H. Moore "DonM" (California United States) - See all my reviews
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I own all of the Top Secret books from Tood Wilbur, and this one is the absolute worst of the series. Contains repeats from previous books, and some from his website. A few new, but I was not impressed. If you are new to the Top Secret series, I would recommend the Restaurant Recipes, and the Soda/Smoothies one. They are the best of the series.
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Fun Book With Great Duplicates, August 2, 2006
This review is from: Even More Top Secret Recipes: More Amazing Kitchen Clones of America's Favorite Brand-Name Foods (Mass Market Paperback)
This is a superb way to duplicate some of your favorite snack items like Cinnabon CinnabonStix , KFC Honey BBQ Wings, and Cheese Nips. I've tried several recipes and all of them came out great.
The Boston Market Meatloaf, one of my favorite take-out foods, was right on the money. I also recreated Cheese Nips and got them to taste just like the original, though the color was off slightly. The KFC wings were perfect and delicious (as is his cloned recipe of KFC original recipe chicken in an earlier boook). The recipe for Devil Dogs came out as dry as the actual Devil Dogs you can get in a store. So I made a few slight changes and produced a wonderfully moist version. They're also good with a chocolate glaze and/or a chocolate cream filling.
That's one of the reasons why people want to have these recipes even though you can buy most of these products quite easily. We like to make slight changes or additions that make them more fun. I've made Twinkies with a ton of different fillings, extra-large thin mints, Cinnabon buns with chocolate chips, and a host of other personal variations of popular dishes. It's for cooks who like to have fun. I recommend this highly, along with all of his other books.
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8 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Enjoy the dash of humor added to the recipes, March 8, 2003
This review is from: Even More Top Secret Recipes: More Amazing Kitchen Clones of America's Favorite Brand-Name Foods (Mass Market Paperback)
These recipes cover common brand-name favorites which are now reproducible in the home kitchen, from Girl Scout cookies and Cinnabon to candy bars and Wendy's chicken filet sandwich. Even More Top Secret Recipes will prove particularly intriguing to fans of brand name items and fast foods, who will enjoy the dash of humor added to the recipes and food descriptions.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Another great set of copycat recipes., January 11, 2003
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I love all of Todd Wilbur's books of copycat recipes, and this one is terrific. All the recipes I have tried have been great. Why go to the trouble to make these recipes when you can buy the prepared foods? The reason I do it is so that I can enjoy the taste I love without all the preservatives, artificial flavors, food colorings, etc. -- I know what's in my food! Wilbur even gives schematics for assembling foods, so that my copycat can look like the real thing.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars finger lickin' good, January 13, 2003
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This book has absolutely fantastic recipes - all the favorites and then some! My husband and I make a lot of these "clones" regularly. Particular hits are the KFC Honey BBQ wings and the Baskin Robbins Ice Cream Cake. Great for get-togethers or when you're having a craving at home.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Walk on by, November 15, 2007
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This is my first Top Secret Recipes book and I had been wanting to get this book for some time. It arrived and I could not wait to open the book and start searching for the many "secret restaurant recipes" to try. To be honest, I was extremely disappointed. Most of the recipes anyone could have figured out on their own. The Peanut Butter Chocolate Rice Krispie Treats recipe is no secret. Anyone who does any cooking or baking can figure out that one needs to add peanut butter and chocolate to the box recipe to make these treats. I have been doing this particular flavor for years as I always liked chocolate and loved peanut butter. As far as amounts of these extra ingredients, you just taste test it as you go along. Everyone's tastes are different. You like chocolate in the Krispie Treats? Try cutting miniature chocolate candy bars like Milky Way or Butterfinger and add to the mixture and stir until melted, pour into pan or into shapes. I would still like to try one of Todd Wilber's other Secret Recipes cookbooks but for those of you who are anticipating on whether to purchase this particular cookbook, I would say, "Check the recipes before you buy but if you can not do this, PASS on this one. You can look at it this way, If you are able to find at least two recipes that you have been wanting to know the secret ingredients so that you can duplicate your favorite foods then BUY it. The price of the book is certainly worth it to provide you with your favorite food from your kitchen any time you want it.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars delicious, January 15, 2003
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I am a huge fan of Top Secret Recipes and all of the clones. Actually there are quite a few in this new book that are not on the website - so there are some nice, delicious surprises in here. I love to cook and the Top Secret Recipes are always fun to make and a hit with my whole family.
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4.0 out of 5 stars NOW I KNOW THE SPECIAL SECRET SAUCE!, August 5, 2011
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Even More Top Secret Recipes, I bought this Book, long time ago, It has many recipes and I always wanted to know how some of these Restaurants or famous Chefs make their Popular recipes, I learned Emeril's Original Essence, how is done or Chef Paul Prudhomme's Poultry Magic or how about, Carl's Jr. Bacon Swiss Crispy Chicken Sandwich, that is a lot of calories, I enjoyed Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream Cake, Panda Express Orange Flavored Chicken and so many more

I wonder how close all of these recipes are to the real thing, I made MacDonald's French Fries, I don't know if the Fast Food Restaurant makes them like that, but I prefer mine without going through so many steps, some recipes did not work for me, and some of the illustrations are old fashioned and not very good, but you know? ...I got the Book just for MacDonalds Special Secret Sauce and I was so happy to get it, I do realized it's not that Secret anymore, everyone knows it, however, I always wanted to know what was in it, so just for that, this Book was worth it! Thank You
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5.0 out of 5 stars B A B Y -- B O O M E R S ' ....P L E A, June 9, 2011
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Patricia "A Reader" (Queens, New York, and Denver, Co, USA) - See all my reviews
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Dear Mr. Wilbur:

Thanks for all the "top secret recipies" in your series. However, I see none from
the "classic, sadly-now-gone" restaurants I knew when younger. How about some recipes from HORN AND HARDART, HOWARD JOHNSONS, and the wonderful Brooklyn Emporium, GARFIELD'S? Recipies from the present-day (still extant!), "Ben's" restaurant, (kosher, in New York -- which has about 300 or more items on its menu), Mazur's, (a kosher restaurnt in Little Neck Queens, NY -- which has a high Zabar's rating!) would also be appreciated. How about some "high-class secrets", from restaurants such as "The Four Seasons", etc.?

Deomocracy is strengthened when EVERYONE can eat "secret" recipes from ethnic and higher-echelon restaurnts!

Hope to see these books, soon!

Thanks!
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