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Farsi (Spoken World)

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My reaction has been quite opposite that of the other reviewer. While this is not the only Persian textbook you'll ever need, it is just right for someone new to the language. I find that this course covers a lot of material and is clearly written, engaging, and well paced. Previous to this course I was using Thackston's "An Introduction to Persian," and I completed over half of his course before finally giving up in favor of Living Language's.

While Thackston was intelligible and comprehensive, the book's bare-bones, disconnected presentation leaves much to be desired. You'll learn grammatical concepts and little else. There is no dialog, no cultural or contextual information, only a handful of rote exercises, and a fairly useless set of vocabulary. There is almost no chance to practice or review what you've learned. Complicated constructions are consigned to explanations of a few terse and highly technical sentences. His explanations are more akin to those of a reference grammar than an introductory course. After assiduously working through the bulk of the book, I found myself more suited to parse verbs than to read or speak any Persian. I would probably recommend his book for those interested in reading Persian for academic reasons, or possibly as a follow-up to an actual introductory course like this one.

Living Language's course was a pleasant contrast. Suddenly, I was 1) given interesting dialog; 2) introduced to useful and relevant vocabulary; 3) taught the key grammatical concepts in a clear and logical manner; 4) given many opportunities to practice what I've learned in a variety of contexts; 5) provided with a variety of cultural highlights and insights.

The grammar explanations are excellent, albeit too quickly paced at times. I'm at a loss as to why another reviewer bemoans the presentation of the verb. Yes, the author likes to provide more explanation than a stark conjugation chart. The conjugations are there, but they are introduced in helpful and logical ways.

For example, Thackston adopts the traditional approach: first, he presents the infinitive (eg. raftan, "to go"), then demonstrates (I won't say "teaches") how to derive the past stem (raft) by dropping the infinitive ending (-an). He then demonstrates how the past tense is formed by the addition of person/number endings (raftam "I went", rafti "you went"... etc.) He doesn't introduce the present tense (which has a separate verbal stem) until almost half-way through the book!

In contrast, Living Language introduces the uses of the verb in a rational order, starting with the various forms of the present tense and proceeding to the past tenses, future, etc. This way is much more natural. I'm not sure what anyone could find objectionable about this presentation.

As for the complaint that the inclusion of colloquial usage is somehow inaccurate and confusing, I did not find it this way. Instead, it is characterized by a few predictable rules, and it was instructive to see how the formal grammar translates into daily speech. When colloquial speech is being used in the book, it is marked as such, and the more formal written variant is presented. If there are any inaccuracies, I would ask critics to refer to them specifically.

This course includes six CDs: three to accompany the book and three to use at any time. The dialogs are delivered at a reasonable pace and provide good practice. The two narrators, a man and a woman, do a good job, although I often found that the woman enunciates words more clearly. The "at home" CDs are audio of the Persian in each chapter; the "on-the-go" ones provide a four or five handy drills for each chapter, starting with a short dialog and then prompting you to create or alter sentences.

My main complaint that the chapters contain too much content; namely several grammatical concepts and several vocabulary lists. I think the book would be better if it were divided into more chapters (from 15 to maybe 20 or 25) with smaller portions of grammar and vocabulary. Also, vocabulary is introduced that is not used in the chapter's dialog or exercises, something that I find frustrating.

A final caveat: I learned to read and write the Persian alphabet before this course, so I did not have a chance to evaluate its presentation in this book. All of the Persian script in this book is accompanied by a phonetic transcription, but I would recommend that any beginner spend some time learning the fundamentals of reading and writing. My suggestion is write out the alphabet in full as many times as you can stomach, repeating the sound/name of each letter out loud as you do so.

Overall, I find Living Language's Farsi to be a solid and interesting introduction to Persian.

I was pleasantly surprised to find how well-done this set is. For my level it is just perfect, clear and full of useful vocabulary and dialogues, as well as other explanations about grammar and culture. I have a great deal of language learning experience and this is far better than your average teach-yourself book. I highly recommend it to anyone who intends to self-study. If it doesn't work for you, you need to attend a good class with a good teacher instead, and those unfortunately are not easy to find...

This is the best course extant for a student who actually wants to learn to speak Persian. The differences between the spoken and written languages are explained very clearly, grammar is presented in a very sensible order, and the book rarely gets ahead of itself by using forms before introducing and explaining them. The dialogues aren't too interesting, but their level of sophistication builds as the course goes along. The CD set is really good too- Persian pronunciation isn't hard, but these CDs give the most practice of any (non-Pimsleur) course that's out there. The book itself is very portable, so you can take it with you on the subway- and very self-contained, so that you don't have to schlep a dictionary along with it. Would that the same could be said of other Persian books!

I have reviewed and studied at least half a dozen Farsi textbooks. Had I not had this experience, I might have put this textbook down after one or two lessons in frustration. Introduction and practice in reading the Farsi (Arabic) alphabet are inadequate. No indication on how to write it is given which one needs to do using this textbook. The explanations regarding colloquial usage versus formal usage are weak at best and the "rules" sometimes applied incorrectly. Writing in the colloquial style serves only to confuse the beginner. The description of the verb in Lesson 4 turns a system which is simple and elegant into something confusing and convoluted. That really needs to be reworked in a more traditional and clearer vein because it doesn't work and will send the student down the wrong path. The introduction of vocabulary in the Key Phrases which isn't used and then the use of vocabulary in the dialogues which isn't introduced is just wrong. I've only gotten through the first four lessons, but felt I needed to say something now. My advice: Look and at Mace for clarity, accuracy, and succintness and Bashiri for an Iranian view of the grammar and try again.

Hello,

I am normally a lousy reviewer but yet again I spent a lot of time on the net trying to find tips and methods to learn Farsi and ... it was far from a success. But it really changed when I received the Living Language Method so I thought I might as well spare you the hectic google research by telling you right now: this method is probably just what you need !

First, it is perfect for beginners: it is extremely clear, doesn't use fancy transcription codes and everything is explained as if you were just talking to a friendly and patient professor.

Second, I think it can even be used by non-real beginners, since it doesn't treat you (as other methods do...) as a retarded or a 2 years old: you don't get bored because you have been going in circles for 12 lessons, and you do not stay at ''My Name is'' one you cross page 100! What I like is that while it is simple, it still gives you a lot, and you will always go back on previous lessons thinking ''Oh right, I forgot this little thing!"

Now the format: I really appreciate the 2 sets of CDs. One set (A) will go through the basics and will led you from A to Z of each lesson. But in addition set (B) leads you further: you will have to take part in conversations, answer questions, in a word do exercises on this lesson you just learned.

The only ''grey note'' would be the writing: the method doesn't focus on the alphabet so you tend to get lazy and chose to follow only the roman transcription. If you have basics of written farsi or arabic that shouldn't be a problem. If you don't, just do this: I was so convinced by the Living Language Farsi method that I bought the Arabic one: ''Complete Arabic: The Basics'' that actually includes a Guide to Arabic Script. It became not only my co-partner to work on my arabic but also on my farsi since both scripts have a lot in common. I think you can get the Guide to Arabic Script.

So in conclusion, this was just exactly what I have been looking for, and since in Farsi not so many methods are available and good... just get yourself that one!

The book follows the tried and true Living Language format, which which I studied Italian, Spanish, French and Hindi. The only problem I notice (I am on chapter 5) is that the female dialogue participant's voice is so deep it is difficult to differentiate the female. It sounds like a man's voice.

I expected a book with easy excess to Farsi, but after a short introduction of the alphabet, difficult to follow fonetic tekst started, with many new words. The written language farsi, was also difficult to read. I hoped for a start with simple and short conversations, like getting to know each other and about social activities.
The fast CD conversations are no support either, because they are also difficult to follow. The book itself is very good and compleat, but as above it starts to difficult.